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bubbletea123

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Nah, fuck this. If she beat him up, how dare she get away with it. If this was a woman hurt by a man, this wouldn't fly.
 
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PineappleQueen19

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Let’s not forget police were to called to Carrie Symonds’ flat after a neighbour heard banging, screaming and shouting including “get off me” and “get out of my flat”. Of course no charges were laid and it wasn’t pursued. No one lost their job and now that guy’s the PM. If Carrie had pressed charges and then dropped it a few hours later would it have made any difference to the outcome? No one knows but I doubt it.

ETA: not at all saying that justifies her keeping the love Island gig - just pointing out it’s not cut and dried how these things turn out
 
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Oohthedrama

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Off topic but I bet she’s delighted with the court sketch, her calf’s look half the size they usually are and her legs look longer too.

silver linings.
 
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rosieflowers

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That ground floor flat is so cave like and lacking in natural light. I wouldn't want to live anywhere like that where you'd need lights on during the day year round.
I literally can't get over the cringe of posting 'can't wait to see you' while you're banned from seeing each other via a restraining order because your partner beat you up... like have a modicum of self respect and respect for the legal process, the police and those who have been through/ are going through similar. Makes a mockery of it.

Thanks by the way @Yel
 
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DaisyDeluxe

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Read something which has touched a nerve.
Ant from Ant and Dec - caught drunk driving, nearly crashing into a family car, given private therapy & rehab etc. Has welcomed back to TV. Didn’t lose his job.

Caroline - caught up in a domestic violence scandal, banned from Speaking to him, he is trying to contact her through online platforms, struggling emotionally and physically, no support for her & loses her job.

Something doesn’t sit well with me here.
He pleaded guilty to the charges against him, she didn’t. He took help to correct his negative behaviours, she didn’t. And she didn’t lose her job, she removed herself from it. She was banned from contacting him because he is considered a potential victim in a domestic incident - perfectly normal and acceptable practice. And how do we know she had no support? Perhaps everyone involved tried to get her some help. You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink.
 
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Uhohno

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The Mail on Sunday claims that she has gone to LA on the advice of "her rock" Russell Brand so that she can "clear her head". I am sure she and him had some kind of sex thing going on years ago!! Her boyfriend was the one who rang the cops and instigated all this and now he claims she didn't hit him and that the copious blood on the sheets were hers and not his so why did he tell the cops that she had tried to kill him, he has done a massive U turn and if she is innocent he has done huge damage to her as a person and to her career.
He was treated for a head injury. There is no way he was lying at the time of the call. Domestic abuse cases are so difficult to get through CPS, if CPS is going a victimless prosecution then there must be enough evidence to secure a conviction. The CPS will not take a case even with a victim to court unless they are confident that there will be a conviction and it's in the public's best interest.

Again if it was a man who do this we wouldn't be having this conversation!
 
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Lonelystarbuckslover

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I think Maya Jama is a terrible presenter, I can’t think of anyone else who would fit the bill though. Love Emma Willis but I think they would want someone younger. Emily Atack?
I’ve just found this comment because I searched for Maya Jama on Tattle so I’ve not read anything else. But I just want to say that I also think Maya Jama is the worst DJ I’ve ever heard. I can’t listen to her show coz she just pisses me off so much.
 
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String Man

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"Been advised not to go on social media"

She says, posting on Insta.

She's such a fame whore, she can't help herself. Sad really when social media is the only validation in your life.
 
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lipsticktaser

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People like something to blame. I’ve seen comments such as the media have blood on their hands.
Suicide is a reaction to MH. When your livelihood and the livelihood of others is based on your image then it can’t be nice to see the negative headlines.
A frail sense of self worth is just another layer in the troubles.
A million likes can’t take away from the loneliness and the noise in your own head. It’s a sad situation but not as straight forward as one thing.

And with the people comparing her treatment to that of Ant M. It’s Apple and oranges.
He went to rehab, done his time, apologies and tried to make things better. The drinking driving incident and the DV are different due to intent. Both heinous though. Not detracting from the severity of what Ant done. Just trying to highlight the different in intent.
She didn’t. But I recon if she’d of gone to rehab and been acquitted she would of been welcomed back.

You’d of hoped she would of had a better support team around her and her management were safeguarding.

But I’ve been surrounded by family and friends and been at the brink. You can be in a room full of people who love you and feel so alone.
 
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NosyWelshCow

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Maybe he wasn’t entirely innocent in all this. Possibly he was sending flirty texts to someone which she found/ or was cheating on her then they got into a drink/ drug fuelled fight, she bashed him etc.
she pleads not guilty as she’s going to argue it was self defence?
Can only think he is mentally not in a good place as he’s trying minimize what clearly happened, feeling guilty about involving the police/ wrecking her career and concerned his Reputation is going to be in tatters when it comes out he assaulted her too???
Men can and are the victims of domestic abuse.
If the police had any inkling that he had assaulted her they would’ve arrested him, even if that had been he was released with a caution or whatever. They charged her with assault and the CPS believe they have enough evidence to prosecute.

We’re all going on rumour, conjecture and their own weird social media posts, but what we do know is that SHE is the one who has been charged with a violent crime, not him. Regardless of whether he was cheating, texting, whatever, if the roles were reversed and he’d allegedly hit her over the head with a lamp, there would be no chance anyone would defend it.
 
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D_Wills

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They could just give Ian Sterling the whole gig. Just voice overs and the live final would be enough.

I guarantee ITV are LOVING all the speculation though. Will drive viewing figures up by miles at first.
 
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Cosytidy

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It’s a classic legal tactic in DA cases-plead NG, see if the victim gives evidence & if not see if CPS continue with prosecution. In most cases the CPS will drop if victim doesn’t give evidence (despite there being guidelines to pursue a victimless prosecution).
However it seems CPS are pursuing the case, it appears there is additional evidence & she will struggle to be acquitted IMO.
I would expect her on the day of trial to plead guilty on a basis (eg she didn’t purposely hit him with a lamp but threw it, it him & injured him & on that basis she pleads G to common assault). You have to remember that the threshold for common assault is very low.
 
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coconochanel

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I doubt its people on a forum that's done it. More like she lost her job on Love island and was facing the court case and prob thought she would never work again.
 
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RaMOANa

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She will probably get help at a clinic and “confess“ that she has a problem with alcohol and come back days later just in time for LI, with it all brushed under the carpet I could never find her likeable and definitely won’t now it will always be there, if he is covering for her to save her career, he is a fool. She is getting a bit old for the party girl persona and has nothing else to fall back on.
 
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AmberSpyglass

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I feel sorry for her family. No family should have to go through this, especially a daughter.
No family wants to deal with the trauma and bereavement of a family member choosing to die by suicide be it son, daughter, niece , nephew etc.

Gender is irrelevant.
 
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String Man

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I can't stand the Flack, but has anyone considered she might have plead not guilty because there's another version of events?
like:

Prosecution

* Has 999 call recording of him saying she's hit him over the head and is trying to kill him, begging for help to be sent
* He told police he believed he was assaulted because she'd been going through his phone while he was sleeping
* Policeman at the scene describing it as being like a horror movie
* Bodycam footage will apparently be played in court; there must have something on it to back up the prosecution case
* Flack flipping over a table at the police station requiring her to be restrained on the ground (there will be footage of this too)

Defence

Alleged abuser says "I didn't do it"
Alleged domestic abuse victim turning full circle and now saying "She didn't do it"

If there was more 'proof' that Flack is innocent then I'd have expected that to be presented to the court on Monday. I guess we'll have to wait in the trial in March for the evidence from the defence (assuming she doesn't change her plea before then).

By re-following each other, she's displaying how much contempt she has for the court and her bail conditions re: no contact. You can bet your arse they are private messaging each other like a couple of gushing teenagers, all heart emojis and 'ILYSM'.
 
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Justheretobenosey

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So she goes on about how she cant wait to tell "her side of the story"
What about those bound by a gagging order, when will they get to tell their side of the story 🤔
What a cretin.
 
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Lollipop19

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This is a bit much in my opinion. I’m not defending her at all but I do get irritated by ‘trial by social media’ based on rumours and opinions when we’re supposed to have a system that is ‘innocent until proven otherwise’.
A mum from my children’s school was a victim of domestic abuse, unfortunately losing her life in the end. There were so many rumours about what happened, with so many different stories being talked about- half of which were absolute rubbish and made up. It was only when the full court case was completed that the whole story came out and everything that was happening behind closed doors from both parties was discussed and it shocked everyone. Of course, she didn’t deserve the outcome but there was a hell of a lot of issues from both sides.
Again, I’m not defending Flack as I have no idea of the full situation, but there will be so much more to this than we know so far so it isn’t up to people to make their minds up yet.
 
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