Candice Brathwaite

[Basicbasic]

It's really not good enough to argue that she might have been a sex worker turned pimp. Pimping is exploitation. Full stop. Your background does not excuse it. She's vile.
Also has Susie verill deleted her comment in support of Candice? It's gone missing.

 

[Instawanker]

Talking about “race card” is not appropriate, it is belittling based on skin colour. One thing that I think CB is spot on about, is that her life will be impacted daily due to her race. So if you feel like it always comes back to race with her, it’s because it does.. and it should. The fact that WOC are more likely to die giving birth is a race issue. I’m really pleased that CB has used her forum to talk about that.
I wish MOD hadn’t used the line, as I believe she is being unfairly tarnished with the racist brush.
I hope this isn’t coming across as an attack, as that isn’t what I want to do. x

I have never used the term “race card”. My issues with her have never been about her race. Just the way she sets others on to people who dare question her.
It was way back when she called out Mum in the Mad House for questioning how she felt spending 300 on a pair of shoes yet stating she was 20k in debt. Rather than discussing it or anything she set people on call and asked her out for a fight.

 

[Lars Guinard]

Apologies for spelling her surname wrong. She’s blocked me now on Insta anyway.

But does she really think she’s exempt from the ASA rules just because she’s a WOC ‘living her best life’????

WOW

I will just use that excuse for not abiding by the terms and conditions or following rules at work. Not going to bother paying tax...I am a WOC out here in the Penines, living my best life...so how dare you expect me to adhere to rules or follow legal requirements!
Not sure it works that way!

 

[Pommes]

A woman who sets herself up as a champion for equality, had a self-run business ruthlessly exploiting vulnerable women to get rich quick. What part of that is the ‘marketing and publishing’ she refers to as her career?

 

[Mrs loizou]

Whichever term you use, pimp, madam, etc. Lining up clients to sleep with women and then taking a cut of the money is illegal in the uk.

Running an escort agency like Candi was doing involves being a go between clients and working girls, and for that work as a go between she will take a fee from the client.

There are several escort agencies here in central London, all doing the same thing as we speak. Call it whatever you will, label it however you want but it is what it is and nobody, not a journalist, not someone you’ve worked with, and especially not TLC can change that.

It actually isn't illegal to run an escort agency.

There are elements of sex work that are legal and illegal but what she was reported as doing, wasn't illegal.

This net could be thrown far and wide if we want to talk about those who make a profit from the fact sex sells and that vulnerable people might be involved - page 3 photographers, booking agents for young glamour models, hotel staff who turn a blind eye to the fact sex workers are using their rooms etc.

There are plenty of sex workers, women's groups etc who are passionate about making sex work safe because like it or not, there will always be people who want to buy sex. And one of the ways they make sure this happens IS by working a business model which includes ensuring girls are safe when they do it. I believe, from what I've seen from the stunning piece of journalism by jodie, is that this is what candice was doing.

The real issue as I see it, is that Candice was invited by a registered midwife to discuss her experiences of childbirth on a podcast. And to also discuss the fact that black women are more likely to die in/post childbirth and this podcast was a discussion between a black woman who developed sceptacemia after giving birth, and a midwife. The midwife had been posting racist comments about the woman anonymously on this website.

Regardless of what kind of job candice has or hasn't done in the past, she's been subjected to racist comments from MOD and this is being overlooked

 

[Ohflogoff]

Why let the truth get in the way of a good story?

 

[Pommes]

Candice is modelling the clothes from her ‘fix me up’ request for freebies. To think there are parents dependent on food banks while brands send clothes to rich beggars.

 

[EyesOpened123]

I really cannot fathom how it is ok for someone to say I only have an interest in listening to people who fall into the same group as me. How is that acceptable?! I find that offensive to be honest.

I think she means why would she listen to a white person explain racism, white fragility/supremacy/privilege. It did seem odd that someone recommended she watch the stories of a white instagrammer on these subjects. I’m sure her lived experiences as a WOC make her more of an expert in these subjects! Not defending her (I think she’s a bit of a nob) but I’m with her on this one.

 

[yootubesuperstar2]

Maybe they can all have a lovely cosy chat about how Candice worked as a pimp and how Brummy Mummy’s kids photos are all over creepy porn sites. That would be something different for Giovannas podcast.

Add to that why Candice has now decided to join the White wimmins at the table, when she previously stated that was not her 'ting'.

 

[FrannyGallops]

She should have moved immediately when asked to do so at the airport instead of sitting there and trying to argue 'Bro, chill' - really? To an airport officer

yeah, that was my first thought too. Surely everyone knows by now that you don’t fuck about in an airport? If they tell you to do something, you do it. And the people ‘who stood there and did nothing’ were probably thinking the same.

 

[GiveMyHeadPeace]

I'm all about her message (or what used to be her message) so it's such a shame that she's no better than MOD et al. in the sense that the heavy editing of comments is working towards a curated narrative rather than the truth. I actually thought CB was better than that, so I'm really disappointed.

She seems to be one of the worst - certainly the quickest - for deleting comments. She just pretends she’s different and too authentic to be doing things like that. She’s nothing but a fraud. I agree - very disappointing.

 

[Lewkyhere]

Hey candice!! This one is for you!

 

[SilverSpoonNotIncluded]

Why is she kicking off? Just say I forgot to put it on, I’m under no obligation to share but for transparency #gifted

It’s not hard love. No one is stopping you living your dream just be honest and clear and people will thank you for it.

 

[Basicbasic]

Haha, I'm flattered that you think it could be CB. Unfortunately not! Just someone who has a bit more insight into the world of sex working than others on here and can probably provide a bit more insight than the average person.

My point, which seems to have been a bit overlooked, is that the role of 'pimp/madam' doesn't really exist outside of american films or shit Jodie Marsh documentaries. It's a very sensationalist and defamatory term and seems like it's being chucked about on here to distract from the real issue

Tacks for the reply candice. I think you're missing the point. It's not me who is saying you were a pimp. It's all there in the documentary and in your old cake making videos. You've certainly played this well, bravo. Unfortunately for you when you sold your pimp story to jodie you forgot it would stay around forever.

 

[Lewkyhere]

Euhrh. I think there may have been a time when I'd have been a little bothered because of her most recent post.

But to be honest, as she would forcefully say CHILE BYE!
Take your bullshit tax made up figures, your boastful 5 bed house with your poor mum as an au pair (who the hell do you even think you are), your wannabe oprah/Michelle O misled dreams, your white people racism, your boring stories about your floaty pieces of fabric and the many many times you've told your followers about your hair, and do one.

I've never wanted someone to come from nothing, make something of themselves, then fail, but for you, I'd make an exception.

Good people get good things. You're not a good person, and its becoming plainly obvious to more and more people now.

 

[Bonkers1234]

I feel for Candice- she has suffered racism from Clemmie and now (albeit indirectly) Clemmie has affected her business. Clemmie could learn from Candice’s grid post.

I don’t think we can blame MOD for CB part in a documentary that was filmed years ago.

this kind of thing would have always come to light at some point as that’s what the past tends to do if you go on national telly and as CB has said herself she isn’t ashamed of her time as a sex worker. In the documentary she makes it sound quite glamorous in fact

 

[Instawanker]

It is a fucking insult to those of us who actually did once hit rock bottom and tried to take our lives.

She has no idea what rock bottom is. How to cope with zero help and support, to have zero money and to not have food to feed your children.

she lived in another world, which is what I have always said. I don’t trust her, never have. It is all an instasham. To get her what she wants.
This is a step too far in my opinion. But she will be get all the validation that she is right and needs a “holiday babe” from her sycophantic followers who dare not say anything for fear of being racist.

 

[Spilttea]

Candice seems to have tried multiple ways to gain fame and freebies. The escort agency and being a madam in the doc, candy’s cakes which seems to be something she diversified into once her eldest was born and then her latest incarnation as woke queen mummy influencer.


I wouldn’t be surprised to see her pop in a few years in yet another one of her “hats”. Jack of all trades and master of none comes to mind.

No one outed her. She took part in a documentary and up until her daughter was a toddler was still calling herself a madam and escort agency owner. Why doesn’t she own that? Could it be because it doesn’t fit the narrative she has invented of her past?!

More things will come to light, if her star rises any higher I will bet all the money I don’t have on more dirt coming out. She doesn’t seem to have been very discerning in who or what she did in her bid for fame or fortune.

 

[ChesterDraws]

I’m not white, not middle class and to me she comes across as self satisfied, landed on her feet,smug and a very nasty piece of work.

Defensive to the extreme and no doubt riding the crest of wave in terms of representation and diversity. The same white middle class people she can barely stand and who she spits venom on with every post are the ones tripping over themselves to work with her to show how woke and with it they are. But how long before the tide turns? The tide always turns.

She can’t write for shit, there is knowing your own worth, loving yourself and then there is Gemma Collins. She has veered too far to the GC side of things. Sis if the white woman giveth she can also take it away. Learn some humility and some grace. You aren’t Maya Angelou you are shilling tat, making coin on an image that will no doubt be your ultimate downfall. Hope you have savings.

This is why greater representation of BAME women is so needed. Less of a monopoly for those that have manage to secure their place at the table.

I agree, the world of the instamums is fickle and elitist. The preach about inclusion and solidarity, but it is anything but

There’s a reason why Maya Angelou appeals to so many different types of people. Her words are human and welcoming.

I think it will take for another WOC to call her out to make her realise. If a white woman says anything it will be branded racism / white privilege / white fragility. Or this ‘caucasity’ word she has coined. She’s untouchable at the moment.

Yes, and I hope more black women do come to the fore and thrive!

 

[Pixiepie]

I agree. I sort of see where she’s coming from, but is she really saying that only POC can find him attractive?

She tried to allude to the fact that only POC should find Stormzy is 72 years old attractive because white people objectified the male form during slavery? It irritates me because she brings race into things that don’t need to be made into a racist issue.