Breast feeding

[Onepotatotwopotato]

Oh good luck at the drs, hope you can get some antibiotics, absolutely horrible experiencing that

 

[Travelhappy]

There are no certainties in life. None. Breastfed or not.

Apart from "breast is best."
I jest, actually totally agree with your sentiment.

 

[Prodcon21]

Where is the fun and piss take in this... like I said before ... it’s a gossip site.. not a breastfeeding forum. So bloody boring

Why do you keep coming into the thread then? It’s quite clearly named breastfeeding. So if you’re not interested - stop coming in here? Just a thought like

 

[EmmieChan]

It’s against the law to advertise or promote formula. This means it can never be discounted as well.
Don’t know why, I guess to improve BF rates as the uk have the lowest in the world?
I breastfeed but don’t have anything against FF

You can’t promote first stage formula but stage 2 and so on you can. That’s how the companies get around. Also you don’t need to move onto stage 2 etc.

 

[Onepotatotwopotato]

I'd love any advice anyone could give me on breastfeeding after a c section. I really struggled getting my son to latch properly last time so we gave up as he eventually just stopped trying when presented with the nipple (he had formula from a cup and was a big boy at 10lb 5, not sure if this contributed)

 

[Noname12345]

One thing I am really passionate/obsessed about is children safety. I will not pick on a mum that can’t bond with her baby or is struggling with certain things but I will pick on someone who will feed her baby too early. Baby’s tummy is ready for real food between 4-6 months however you can’t be sure the exact time. Some babies might be ready at 4 months but how can you be sure. So to be on the safe side you are supposed to wean at 6 months. Yes yes 20 years ago there was a different advice but we have evolved, science and all that. So it’s bad to wean too early because you run the risk of you baby having gut problems all their life. I was weaned early and I have had tummy problems. There is really 0 rush! They don’t need anything but formula or Brest milk until they are 1

I'm in late twenties. I've asked my mum when she started weaning me. She said at 6 months and it was a very gradual process.

 

[RubyShoe]

Where is the fun and piss take in this... like I said before ... it’s a gossip site.. not a breastfeeding forum. So bloody boring

please post bitty again

 

[RubyShoe]

Yes - never said otherwise.
I only signed up to Tattle after weeks of browsing silently tonight after your shocking comment about removing the breast when baby can hold a cup. As I said for me this would have been at 4 months and would have been very damaging to my baby emotionally and physically - why would you think this is okay?. It also insinuates that breastmilk is only for thirst which is completely untrue.
Breastfeeding is not a golden ticket to a healthy happy life of course there are other factors involved but it will certainly play an important role and contribute so why would you not attempt it - you did yourself so you obviously agree and I'm not sure why you keep trying to argue with me.
Have made my point and hopefully shared some valuable information, i won't keep going on. I should be sleeping!

Whats shocking is that you have been dwelling so long on a flippant comment made by a stranger on Tattle. And whether I , or anyone, chooses to breastfeed or not should be of no real concern to you. Frankly Im amazed by the time you have invested tonight arguing with me about this. And yes I agree you should be sleeping, or maybe spending time with your child.

 

[Eltonjohnsflorist]

Yes I know that. Just research they’ve chosen to publish on their pro breastfeeding site so pro breast feeders can “win” BF online debates by quoting scientific research

 

[Oohthedrama]

Those bottle hurt when thrown believe me

Would you prefer me to whack a boob in yo’ face

 

[Definitelyme]

When I was pregnant with my eldest I was desperate to breastfeed but the information I received from the nhs was sub par and barely covered anything apart from “breastfeeding is hard at first but it gets easier” And some shitty diagrams on how to get a proper latch. I went out and bought a breastfeeding book instead. I know people say you can’t ‘go by the book’ when it comes to parenting but that breastfeeding book was so incredibly helpful to me. I learnt pretty much everything I know about breastfeeding from it and it set me in good stead as I was able to breastfeed both of my children for 12months each. I doubt I’d have been able to manage that if I wasn’t equipped with actual facts on how breastfeeding works and things like why babies need to suckle a lot in the early days and how it is actually incredibly rare for women to be physically incapable of not making enough milk (something I was worried about and is also something I feel becomes a self fulfilling prophesy for many women). In comparison, the information the nhs gave out, along with being told so many incorrect things from well meaning family members, would have set me up to fail. Breastfeeding support is woefully lacking in the uk and misinformation still very prevalent.

Don’t get me wrong I still struggled especially the first time round But the only reason I didnt fail was because I sought the required info out myself. If the nhs really wants to improve breastfeeding rates they really need to put more effort into the breastfeeding guidance and support they give out (granted this was 8 years ago) not just spout “breast is best” with some very basic instructions on latch and expect mums to just know how it all works. So many mums for example think there’s something wrong with their milk if baby seems to constantly want to feed when in reality that’s very normal in the early day’s and is crucial for building a supply.

My personal experience (I have 3 kids, i breastfed the elder 2 of over 2 years each, youngest still feeds now at 22months) and the experience of a lot of friends and family is that often midwives are not well trained about breastfeeding, and therefore are unable to really help, and give out useful information in the first days and weeks after birth. In hospital they are also stretched so thin that they often don’t have the proper time, as knowledge, to help a mum out.

I generally read tattle with a boob out...

For feeding or just for fun?!

 

[Travelhappy]

This is horrendous I'm so sorry to hear this. X

 

[Travelhappy]

I'd be over the moon if all he had going for him was a minor illness. Poor lad is on his 2nd open heart surgery and more in future and hes only 5. However birth defects have shit to do with breastfeeding, so my point is moot. But does explain WHY I detest seeing resources wasted on those who don't need it. Admission back to hospital for help with breast feeding is bullshit when there are babies in the next bed suffering with real illness.

Theres no way the other mum was acting in her kids best interest trying to force breastfeeding. She was practically starving her own child being too stubborn to give a bottle. I thought when you had kids you put then first not ridiculous social ideals.

Sorry to hear about your wee boy I understand where you're coming from. X

 

[Definitelyme]

oh I can relate to this! Currently 13 weeks pregnant with no2 and struggling so much, just the permanent nausea and vomiting and fatigue has killed me off and I admit I would be absolutely over the moon if my daughter decided tomorrow she wasn’t interested anymore, I’ve tentatively tried to say no to her but wow it doesn’t go down well she is actually heartbroken and then I feel awful and give in, I’m getting over the hill of the horrible sickness now though thank god so I’m finding it a bit easier again and I’ll see what the next trimester brings and how much longer I can carry on for

I felt so done with it the other day that I screamed at my partner that I was formula feeding the new baby from day 1 ha ha, now that I’ve calmed down a bit I’ve decided I will intend to bf number 2, I’ll give it my best, if it doesn’t work out for any reason, terrible painful latch or whatever, I will give exclusive pumping a go and if that doesn’t work I will move onto formula without any bad feelings about it, just thinking ahead! Wow you’ve done incredibly well to bf 3 so far for as long as you have, I’m sure no4 will work out brilliantly too!

Oh I feel for you, I always found from about 9 weeks onwards very difficult. When I was feeding my second and pregnant with my third feeding him actually made my skin crawl. Many times I just wanted to shove him off me, because I would be actually squirming while he fed. With this pregnancy it definitely made the nausea worse, and was so sore as well! So both times I weaned around 15 weeks pregnant to save my sanity.

Weaning is not easy, but I can honestly say that after max 3 days all of mine were absolutely fine with it. I actually felt a bit rejected at times! So if you decide you want to wean while pregnant don’t be afraid of negative response from LO. You can still provide comfort and love with cuddles I have found 3 times out of 3 the worry of weaning was way worse than the process itself. And my son in particular was an absolute boob monster!

 

[RubyShoe]

Do you think it was fun for the mother desperately trying to feed her baby? I don't think selfish is the right word to use, quite the opposite.

It was deffo less fun for those around her, and the already stretched to the max midwives. So yes. I would use the word selfish. Poor baby was starving and unhappy. In this case mum was putting her needs before the childs. A bottle was the solution ffs

 

[Eltonjohnsflorist]

A breastfeeding counsellor like the woman in the mirror article linked would be someone who answers the NCT breastfeeding hotline or runs a LLL breastfeeding cafe. Not a hospital employed laceration consultant

 

[Sandra_1984]

Totally agree, fed and informed is best.

I was bottle fed, I now teach law at university level after a short (felt too long!) career as a lawyer. I fortunately never get ill or catch colds etc.
My mostly bottlefed son probably has the lowest IQ out of all of my children (other two breastfed for 9 months and 4 years). When I say this, I mean he's average level, unlike his siblings who have always worked at above average expectations. He does have the most common sense out of all three though, which I believe will carry him further.


However, ironically, he is the child who gets ill absolutely never. The one who was breastfed for 4 (almost 5) years is always picking up bugs. Honestly, despite research, I think it's just pure luck and a mixture of genetics.

With the boy and girl, twins, I really shattered my mental health in the first few weeks of their life due to trying to breastfeed them both. I feel pressure to formula feed from my parents (when I was small, formula was encouraged so naturally they were worried), and pressure from health visitors and midwives to breast feed. For my daughter, she took to it so well, my son however struggled and was never satisfied. So I felt even worse when one twin was bottle fed and one twin was breastfed. Bottle fed twin thrived though and was an early walker and talker etc.
For my last child who is now 10, I breastfed him out of pure laziness on my part.

What I realise now though is that feeding an infant (rather how you feed them) is such an insignificant thing when they reach their older years. What really really matters is the love and affection and happiness is parents provide for them. Reading to them, helping them with their needs and ensuring that you always provide a safe place for them. Too much emphasis is put on how we feed our babies, but not enough emphasis is put on how we treat them during their childhood.


Parents, mums especially have it hard enough without people getting all judgey on them. Fed is best. Providing a secure home for your child is best. A happy child is best.

 

[RubyShoe]

You've been there apparently - tried but it didn't work out. How did you feel? I know I would have felt stressed and emotional. However other babies crying on a ward - not pleasant to listen to but it wouldn't affect me the same way. This mum was outing her baby's need for her milk first , not the ears of others on the ward or her own body.

Rubbish. I felt relieved my baby was fed and happy. If she was putting her childs need first she would have given him.a bottle. Do you think it would know the difference or care?? And the only time I ever felt bad was when some earth mother like you made me ashamed that I didnt breast feed my babies.

 

[Definitelyme]

yes.

but....

while the science is obvious- no one is denying that a mothers breast milk is the best option - the delivery of this is not always easy and actually can be detrimental to the health of both mother & child.

breast feeding is great when it works.

but when it doesn’t work? There is nothing wrong with formula feeding. Nothing at all. A fed baby, a content baby, a stress free baby AND a content, stress free MOTHER is the aim. Not a woman who is completely emotionally and physically drained and being berated for using formula milk.

I’d never breast feed a baby ever again due to past experience.

I didn’t mention anything about formula feeding in my post at all though? Why would I? This is a breastfeeding post and I was solely talking about it. It’s not a breast vs formula post.
I am sorry your experience was a bad one xx

 

[Notgonnalie]

You’re replying! Take some responsibility for your posts. “No science behind breastfeeding” doesn’t even make any sense.

will happily tell you there is no science involved

I know youre right, you don’t make any sense.
I replied because you tagged me.