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justheretoreadalways10

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Lee hasn’t told Ashley about the witham trouble, because she was probably carrying on over the Barry trouble and he couldn’t be arsed to tell her and make it worse.

At the end of the day, she’s dead because of him. He should have been there to answer for himself the little rat man 😡

Liv… I’m sorry but if my mate was killed it wouldn’t have taken me until 4/5 months later to talk to the police .
 
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ShockAdGift

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“The emergence of those two brothers, Big Dave and Little Dave, and James Witham’s assertion he dug up the gun with a jug were moments of pure farce. Each one of us will remember Big and Little Dave for the rest of our lives”

We sure will, Mr Greaney
 
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Niall’s kids ma is trynna justify her being with him saying she never knew what he was about but the kids head to toe in designer and she’s walking round with more plastic in her face than Cashman’s bird, pull the other one 🤣
 
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I’ve literally just been reading that then , 18 years for what she done is disgusting the little piss head 😖😡

The fact she was still blaming him in her statement 😡 only one person chose to pick up a knife and that was her.

judge should have slammed her for longer
thinking you all x x x
Walking out doing thumbs up to her dirty rodent family who have had to be escorted by police every time they’re in there for intimidating his family 🤬 this is the kind of mindset these murdering cunts have thinking their all hard knocks, I hope every last person that commits these crimes are took out one by one
 
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sillydot

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I’m just glad they were able to retrieve Ashley’s phone. Without it these scum bags would still be melting away in that flat, eating sweets whilst jacking off to Jeremy Kyle.
Bet they’re not feeling so chirpy this morning. Wonder if they show up for sentencing?
 
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So a friend of my sister lives in her road, not one of the witnesses or nothing, and she’s just been saying that about 3/4 weeks before Ashleys windows actually got put in by men looking for Lee, threatening to come back and petty bomb the house and stuff. Nothing got reported to the police they just got the windows fixed and carried on so it seems there’s a lot of people who clearly don’t like Lee
 
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Lazarus

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two things i've contemplated over the past year:
1) Do i want to live in Liverpool any longer? it seems overrun with cardboard gangsters
2) Why would anyone wish to go to Dubai?
 
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MissTeddy

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These lads are living with their parents, spending their days in a crummy flat above a takeaway, staying in shitty hotels and driving Audis for day trips to Rhyl.
That is nothing to be proud of? Where’s the mansions, the sports cars, the watches, Barbados holidays?! They have F all when u think about it. They are just scum bags who are feared cuz they will use a gun. They can’t fight. They are not proper men. Branch doing a runner for life with 10k?! How long is that gonna last.
The lot of them are embarrassing.
I saw some pics of that phoebe birch out in Mayfair. They all looked like ducks out of water.
They can carry on with their Turkey teeth, fake tits, shein clothes, knock off Chanel’s, filler faces etc but the reality is u can’t polish a turd - no matter how hard they try.
This is spot on @sillydot all this tragedy, beef, sadness - and for what. A few little dickheads playing at being gangsters when they actually they were complete no marks. And pity the silly girls who fawn over them.

I’d like to believe Ashley knew that Lee wasn’t good enough for her and one day she’d have found the strength to walk away. My oldest daughter is in her 20s and trust me - I have no control over her love life. I can only hope I’ve taught her right from wrong. Everyone makes mistakes, especially in relationships - but poor Ashley never got the chance to put hers right. Rest in peace.
 
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Thick as shit at the end of the day. A huge part of the evidence against them was the constant phone calls pinging back an forth as they check what's going on amongst themselves. Mobile phones have made detectives jobs so much easier. They're going down partially cos they couldn't resist getting the geg. And thank god Ashley left a record of her worries on voice notes. Keep your friends in the loop about your lives girls!
Fingers crossed nothing bad ever happens to my fella because if police got hold of my voicenotes I’d be on a charge
 
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they might have guessed at IF’s history when he mentioned phoning his dad on the prison phone and they had asked for the transcript but it was too long or something?!

I know it’s bad but I’m hoping LH will have a target on his head and someone might take him out. He deserves it for his cowardly, selfish ways.

But yeah Ashley will definitely have known he was a drug dealer. But it seemed most of her friends were also with drug dealers so it seems to be the norm?
The fact he’s still going round now doing the exact same thing as he did when she was alive aswell just proves he couldn’t give a fuck the dirty scumbag, I hope someone takes him out asap but I suppose that’s why he’s flitting between here and Dubai
 
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sillydot

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My thoughts so far:

witham: fucked
Peers: fucked
Barry: fucked
Zest: fucked
Ian: fucked
radford: not sure - actually kinda feel sorry for him as I genuinely believe he didn’t know the extent of what the car was involved in.

Don’t agree with Ian coming across as all sweet an innocent. The red flag was raised as soon as he mentioned he had a call with his dad who was also in nick. The whole ‘yes sir, no sir, three bags full’ sir won’t wash with jury.
Also think he if he was to get off he would be safer inside. His family are not as feared as you think. Drove past some lovely art work in dovecot earlier ‘Ian f is a grass and his sister takes it up the ass’

his days are numbered regardless
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Also one thing I can’t get my head around. A few of the lads said Witham came back and owned up to what he had done as soon as he did it.. yet when he was on the dock there was no mention of that and he said he kept it all inside for weeks.
Felt like that could’ve been discussed more. Saying that the updates on the echo must of not be a snippet of what actually gets said.
 
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Foxvint

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Exactly as tattle called it! Ian free, Radford free. The rest locked away like the cockroaches they are. Rip gorgeous Ashley.
 
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Foxvint

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Imagine the horror and worry of being a jury member on a case like this. Realising the utter no-marks they associate with.
That's why Cashmans was in Manchester wasn't it, I assume. To get a fair trial/incase of jury intimidation. I'd wanna be sat there in a sombrero and a false mustache if I was on a big case. You don't know what bastard member of the family could be memorising your face. Liverpool thinks it's the centre of the world but it's actually only a small city and everyone seems to know everyone via someone.
 
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Yer_wha?!

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47 years. That's my lifetime so far- and all the stuff I've done and achieved
And they've kissed goodbye to all that time in front of them, and for what? Petty beef

Good riddance to the no marks
 
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FlugioHugio

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Her mum's statement has left me with tears in my eyes and I am generally a hard-faced cow 💔 Good for her that she looked Witham straight in the eye...
 
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sillydot

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Liv needs to go and stand very close to a bonfire. She will quickly melt - just like the rest of them
 
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