No need for a recap. We all know about Ashley & Safs horrendous time. Majority of us on the previous thread are more concerned & worried about Safiya & the way Ashley is with her. Grief aside somethings just aren’t sitting right.
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Said perfectly , I’m really worried for Saf & her mental state
I just can’t get my head around the newquay thing the other night! She didn’t even say she was going to newquay to greet Ashley on her IG story she said she was taking her followers suggestions and going to newquay. She was no part of that first night arrival or anything….. she was literally sat alone Instagram live talking to strangers! Does this not seem odd to anyone?
Also bizzare on her live she called Ashley’s mom vicky. Then vicky turned the camera round and said look where I am. Saff cut the call came back 5 mins later and said vicky wasn’t at azaylias garden was just trying to send her a video from before when she was…..but it was a live she clearly was there.
Sorry was supposed to say people asked if vicky was at Azaylias garden and she said no it was a video she was trying to send her.
Also bizzare on her live she called Ashley’s mom vicky. Then vicky turned the camera round and said look where I am. Saff cut the call came back 5 mins later and said vicky wasn’t at azaylias garden was just trying to send her a video from before when she was…..but it was a live she clearly was there.
Sorry was supposed to say people asked if vicky was at Azaylias garden and she said no it was a video she was trying to send her.
Me and my partner went through two miscarriages last year months apart(I know it’s nothing compared to what they went through, but to us they were still wanted children), and I cried so much and my partner would never just leave me to grieve by myself, we would always be there for one another, so it does break my heart how she seems to be navigating her grief without the support of her partner
That live was all over the place , some really sick comments from some people to asking Saf when she would have another child again. How can you ask that? Can’t imagine how those sort of questions affect her even more
Really sorry for your loss
I'm so so sorry for anyone who has had to deal with child loss. It's a fear that swarms me on a daily basis and I cannot imagine what Safiyya and Ashley are going through. I just wish he'd look at her and see how broken she is, and tell her that it's okay to be sad, it's okay not to exercise
Breaks my heart , can’t imagine what next Christmas is gonna be like. I just hope they spend it together or with family
She was pouring her heart out to actual strangers and 3000+ people watching while her partner was in the restaurant next door. I don’t think it’s for attention or anything like that, I just feel like she’s genuinely lost and has some kind of god complex when it comes to Ashley. I just feel so bad for her. How she could sit there on that live and say her and Ashley are stronger then ever just did not match up to the events of the evening and previous day.
I'm glad that Saf has her brother for support, although I do hope he looks after himself as he has his own little family to look after.
I am worried about Saf. I do worry about her mental state. She will never be 100% okay, however it feels like aside from her brother, she has zero emotional support. She said she doesnt believe in medication, which is fair enough & as far as I'm aware, she's not been going to therapy. She's gonna break.
I am worried about Saf. I do worry about her mental state. She will never be 100% okay, however it feels like aside from her brother, she has zero emotional support. She said she doesnt believe in medication, which is fair enough & as far as I'm aware, she's not been going to therapy. She's gonna break.
It's like when women have abusive husbands/partners. (Not saying Ash is abusive to Saf btw) To everyone else, they are the best, all smiles, Woman bigs them up like everything is fine and dandy & never been more in love. Behind closed doors they must sleep in seperate beds because sometimes shes on the lives, sobbing. Is he just lying next to her ignoring her? Sleeping right through it?
Saf did mention on her live she looks through messages , tries to respond but as you can imagine , her dms get flooded. I have messaged her throughout her hospital stays & now , even if she just reads through. I want her to know she’s got love & support , like many of us , I just wanna give her a hug
This is so lovely and I have done the same however although it’s nice it brings her comfort it shouldn’t be main form of support system which is what it appears to be at the moment.
I’m praying she makes it back up with her mom, she was a big part in her life before they fell outI agree , I know grief works in different ways but Ashley does need to wake up a bit. I know it sounds harsh but the focus for Saf isn’t there with him
I’m a bit on the fence but mostly agree with the comments about Ashley being quite cold to Saf. When my little girl was diagnosed I shut down emotionally and turned quite cold towards anyone except the doctors/nurses and of course my child. I didn’t want my family or partner pestering me or relying on me for support, I just wanted to talk to the people that could physically help.
But then I did have my moments where I let my partner hug me and be there for me as ofc he was going through it too and could see I wasn’t coping well. So we did have that sort of reliance in different ways although the majority of the time I was quite distant with everyone.
I think that Ashley is so absorbed in himself and his own grief he seemed to forget about the woman who gave birth to Azaylia and also went through it. There doesn’t seem to be that mutual support even if that is the way he deals with it, he needs to try and understand and help Saf too. But unfortunately I do think he is quite self centred and that has come across on tv 100%.
But then I did have my moments where I let my partner hug me and be there for me as ofc he was going through it too and could see I wasn’t coping well. So we did have that sort of reliance in different ways although the majority of the time I was quite distant with everyone.
I think that Ashley is so absorbed in himself and his own grief he seemed to forget about the woman who gave birth to Azaylia and also went through it. There doesn’t seem to be that mutual support even if that is the way he deals with it, he needs to try and understand and help Saf too. But unfortunately I do think he is quite self centred and that has come across on tv 100%.
As someone already mentioned her brother is incredible he also has a young family to spend time with and care for. Where is his massive family while Ashley is away? I feel like she’s being made to feel like she hasn’t really got a part in the foundation, whens she’s asked she just says for education and to give families magical moments. Like she doesn’t really know herself where her place is. I’m sure she said on her live she was letting Ashley have his moment the other night in newquay……it’s in memory of THEIR daughter, she should never be made to feel like a side bit!
I listened to the podcast. They said their relationship was put on hold when Azaylia was in hospital, they couldn’t be in there together. There was no phone signal etc so it must have had a huge impact on them. Getting that back will be hard. He also said he goes into survival mode which is what he’s doing now.
He also said he’s a very open and affectionate person when it comes to expressing his feelings. Said he’s mega affectionate with people and even got his dad to hug him snd open up to him when he never has before. I’ve had little niggles over the situation but this whole newquay situation has really made me think for sure something is off. Then he peddled her out the next morning for a photo op, almost like he ‘let’ her come down to the beach for that bit. She’s not even sure if she’s greeting him at the finish line in Scotland
He has a funny way of showing affection towards Saf doesn’t he. Doesn’t even mention her when talking about Azaylia
Give it a week there will be a post asking for recommendations for chauffeur companies to Scotland when he realises it will look good on him having safiya there at the finishing line
But he somehow still found time to follow porn stars and models etc. Sick baby or not that’s just plain vile and disrespectful!
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