Plus can you imagine the harsh governments in places like Japan, China etc allowing the loose rules we had over here?! And America? Japan has JUST opened its borders but still has a tonne of rules in place and they are enforced by law…But it really is all a coordinated thing between governments, and they do have this colossal undertaking to control it.
The Nations have secretly United and conduct meetings in disclosed locations and then have the gall to publish their secret plans to make us think it's all above board
Sorry to hear that.Which I find bizarre because in real life I don’t know anyone who is vaccine injured but I know a woman who lost her 2 week old baby to whooping cough and a student who lost her hearing due to measles?
I mean there may be an increase but there also are plenty of other reasons (actual Covid being one of them but of course that doesn’t really existAs I said before, my assumption is that the number of young(er) people dying of heart attacks etc is the same as it ever was (especially in athletes, where its actually not uncommon), but the anti-vaxxers are going out of their way to publicise cases of it that otherwise might get a paragraph in a local paper.
That’s so awful and sad. I remember Gabby Logan’s younger brother died of one whilst playing football which I believe must have happened in the 70s/80s. The way some of the anti vaxxers talk you’d think it was an entirely new phenomenon , same with the hospital delays etc everything is due to the vaccine for them!I watched a man die in front of me at a club in the late '90s, no drugs or alcohol involved according to the coroner's inquest. The guy was only 35, he was the owner of the club and the death was attributed to SADS.
This triggered an interest (for want of a better word) in younger people dying due to heart failure and it's as common as it ever was.
I don't disagree, there's a huge amount of scaremongering on both sides.I think it's hypocritical how a lot of conspiracy theorists complain about scaremongering, yet they have no problem with scaremongering about vaccine injuries. I was just reading some nutter on Twitter who was saying most of the vaccinated will be dead within 1- 10 years (quite a large range) and most of the reply tweets were along the lines of "so glad I didn't have it". Yet if such deaths were being predicted for any other reason, they'd be saying it was part of a campaign to make us all scared and subservient.
Also, every single death of a celebrity is heavily hinted to be vaccine related, as is any illness. Even though people died of, or experienced, all those things before covid, so even if vaccine injuries were responsible for a handful, they can't be responsible for them all. But that is never acknowledged.
I think some of it is calculated as well. After all, we know cancer and heart disease have long been big killers in the UK, again long before Covid, so they're laying the groundwork about how vaccines cause cancer and heart issues because they know lots of people will sadly die of those things anyway, so then they can say "it was the vaccine, told you so!"
And that's the really odd part, how so many of them seem almost gleeful about deaths because they can use it as vindication of their anti vaccine stance, even without proof the vaccine caused those deaths.
I appreciate what you’re saying and agree, but for me I’m not really interested in anecdotal stories from people who claim to know people who died from taking a vaccine or people who claim that they’re vaccine injured, however I am very interested to see actual studies and statistics which reflect this supposed large number of vaccine related deaths which people seem to be worried about.I don't disagree, there's a huge amount of scaremongering on both sides.
I think they're a very loud minority. I often see the same usernames online pushing these opinions. Not every recent death is about the vaccine and it's important to highlight the real complications of the vaccine and recognise and uplift those who have suffered from it by allowing their stories to be told. What I find a lot with any talk of vaccine risks is that is has no risks, nobody has died from complications etc.
They're shut down, being called liars, and spreading anti-vax propaganda.
I'm sick of seeing people who have suffered from vaccine injuries being shut down and labelled anti-vax for opening up about what's happened to them. It's really sad, surely we can recognise that any vaccine comes with potential risk, and this one more than most as we don't really have any long-term studies into it.
It's like there is constant competition to be right and it hinders the truth regardless of personal opinions. On both sides!
I will also add many people concerned about this vaccine are not anti-vaccine in general, just anti these covid vaccines. Even people, like myself, that have had the first 2 doses are worried about the new data coming out. Those saying vaccinated people will be dead in 1-10 years need to be ignored, there's no evidence to suggest that it's just people spouting nonsense in order to scare people. And I guarantee it will which is really sad. Nobody should be scared into believing anything.
I think both sides need to acknowledge that facts are facts, presuming everyone dying recently is a result of vaccine injury is ludicrous and only makes the concern around covid vaccines seem like very right-wing, anti-vax and conspiratorial opinions that will never be taken seriously by people who don't align with those opinions.
I think most celebrities get accused of fake pregnancies at some point.Just to totally change the subject, one of my FAVOURITE conspiracy theories ever was the one about Louis Thomlinson’s baby being faked to hide his relationship with Harry Styles. It’s just reared it’s head on my Pinterest again lol.
There’s a whole clutch of weirdos who believe Benedict Cucumberpatch has fake, robot children or something!I think most celebrities get accused of fake pregnancies at some point.
Omg I love this one. It tickles me a bit because my ex boyfriend was OBSESSED with her and I copied so many of her looksI think my all-time favourite is fake Avril Lavigne https://www.nylon.com/life/avril-lavigne-doppleganger-melissa-conspiracy-theory
I've no problem with the post by @rainbowlemon especially when the first link contains comments like:Can we not turn this into an argument?
We keep out of your thread, the least you could do is show us the same courtesy.
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