Possibly, but I wonder how this would work for people who cannot get the vaccine due to medical reasons? Would they be exempt from the quarantine?
Possibly, but I wonder how this would work for people who cannot get the vaccine due to medical reasons? Would they be exempt from the quarantine?It could be a good compromise! Giving some freedom back to people who are vaccinated could also push more to get the vaccine.
Frightening expecting mothers with the fear of miscarrying or having a stillborn is possibly the most heinous thing they’re doing at the moment.
They would rather a woman catching Covid possibly losing their life or their child or both than to lose an argument.
I don‘t think so. Sadly they are at a higher risk of transmitting the virus, so they‘d have to quarantine.Possibly but I wonder how this would work for people who cannot get the vaccine due to medical reasons? Would they be exempt from the quarantine?
They could (and should, IMO) make an exception for those who medically cannot have the vaccine in the same way that they have for clinical trial participants on the placebo arm (https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...ered-to-take-part-in-covid-19-vaccine-studies)Possibly, but I wonder how this would work for people who cannot get the vaccine due to medical reasons? Would they be exempt from the quarantine?
I think a pragmatic approach has to be taken where the freedom of those who genuinely can’t accept a vaccine is balanced against the potential transmission of granting it. I don’t agree with posters on the other thread howling about ‘discrimination’ when people just don’t want a vaccine, but if you are medically advised not to have one and then your freedoms are curtailed that does seem potentially discriminatory to me as it is not a choice in that case. I haven’t seen any data on exactly how many people would be medically exempt and how that would translate in potential transmission terms though, that might change my mind on it. If it is not many and a very small potential uplift, I would consider it fair especially given other discretions granted (such as for those on the placebo)It’s a hard one as some will argue that they shouldn’t have to quarantine as they had no choice but not to have vaccine because of medical reasons, and others will argue that they should quarantine due to transmission.
I agree, if feels discriminatory to put restrictions on people who are medically unable to get the vaccine. However I feel it’s a different story for people who can get the vaccine and simply choose not to. Someone on the CT thread said they don’t want to get it because it’ll “make them ill”. (I think a pragmatic approach has to be taken where the freedom of those who genuinely can’t accept a vaccine is balanced against the potential transmission of granting it. I don’t agree with posters on the other thread howling about ‘discrimination’ when people just don’t want a vaccine, but if you are medically advised not to have one and then your freedoms are curtailed that does seem potentially discriminatory to me as it is not a choice in that case. I haven’t seen any data on exactly how many people would be medically exempt and how that would translate in potential transmission terms though, that might change my mind on it. If it is not many and a very small potential uplift, I would consider it fair especially given other discretions granted (such as for those on the placebo)
It may also be a problem when the people who don't want to be vaccinated may be 'forced' to comply.I agree, if feels discriminatory to put restrictions on people who are medically unable to get the vaccine. However I feel it’s a different story for people who can get the vaccine and simply choose not to. Someone on the CT thread said they don’t want to get it because it’ll “make them ill”. ()
Firstly, it’s a good thing if it makes you ill, it shows your body is reacting to the vaccine and creating an immune response. Secondly it’s not certain you will experience symptoms. I know I can’t speak for everyone, and I’m probably even in the minority, but I didn’t experience any symptoms from the AZ vaccine
Wow where did that come from! Apparently we need yet another thread where people can parade their neuroses (I'm not having the vaccine for health reasons - I'm scared of it) about why they're not having the vaccine. Inevitably it has been annexed by CT-ists who want another safe space free from anybody that might disagree with them so that they can rehearse their extreme not to say bullshit theories about the Covid and the vaccine.My brain is completely frazzled. They have gone quiet on the main Covid thread and are now on another thread which seems to be taking quiet a turn.
I’ve lost track of how many threads there are now. They talk about freedom of choice and not being judgemental, yet will call others guinea pigs, weirdos, sheep for following guidelines or having the vaccine. At this point I have no words. Just this emoji.Wow where did that come from! Apparently we need yet another thread where people can parade their neuroses (I'm not having the vaccine for health reasons - I'm scared of it) about why they're not having the vaccine. Inevitably it has been annexed by CT-ists who want another safe space free from anybody that might disagree with them so that they can rehearse their extreme not to say bullshit theories about the Covid and the vaccine.
That is the hilarious thing, they take arguments from the US which make 0 sense in the UK. Someone I know is constantly posting on social media about the government wanting to continue lockdown to destroy the economy. The tory government trying to ruin the thing they are most obsessed with and prioritised initally by not closing bordersOMG how thick is this woman?Imagine not only being that stupid but having the ignorance/ arrogance to tell everyone you know best! You’d have to be pretty thick to believe what she says surely? I mean how could raw food cure cancer? Basic question surely anyone with half a brain would ask.
also we have the NHS. The government don’t want to make profit on illness. Stopping medical treatment and telling everyone to eat fruit instead would save them trillions and trillions of ££. They’d do it in a second if it worked
" his chakras are fading"If I were pregnant, I would want it. I get the nervousness, but all those stories about women getting covid late-term and ending up giving birth in comas and some of them dying. That's what I'd be terrified of.
I think Mitchell and Webb have done a feature on Ellie's ideal hospital.
I don’t care if people want to roam around the forest with twigs up their nose, eating bear shit and massaging toadstools into their hair whilst worshipping the sun, moon and stars. As long as they aren’t telling me that the bear shit is Nutella and I’m stupid and brainwashed if I don’t believe them!At risk of being completely and utterly wrong, I would hazard a guess that most people really don''t have a problem with anyone going for alternative and/or complementary medicine as long as it doesn't exclusively involve magic or the rejection of actual science.
they spout often that we shouldn’t judge others choices. Which I agree with.I’m really finding some of the comments and things people are saying about pregnant people getting the vaccine so nasty. I’m ttc and have had my vaccine last week and I’m not concerned at all if it turns out I was pregnant at the time (I don’t know yetcross your fingers for me!)
So you don’t want to be judged for not getting and for stopping your children from having it (if that were allowed) but you can judge someone else for what they do with their body? Like I’ve said before all the stuff about Rachel Riley is so grim and horrid.
Also saw a comment like ‘it’s a bit different if it’s a long time wanted baby’, as in you’d be less likely to take the risk.
Yeah cool cos all the people who are vaccinated obvs just want their babies less than you want yours
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