Amanda Palmer

[SusieTCones]

So for better or worse, I've stayed as a patreon follower so I can see what she says or doesn't say. This was posted earlier (I've cut out half of it because she rambles on and on but you get the gist

"I'm a real person who uses their personal life to make art so that it gets me the attention I so desperately crave. Except you shouldn't be mean to me and you should give me privacy when I say so."

 

[Vanelope]

His work always has a nasty sex undercurrent that makes it ‘edgy’. In American gods an ancient goddess consumes a worshiper entirely into ‘herself’ shall we say during intercourse, graphically described, which is just one example. Stardust - which often aimed at YA since the film - also has graphic sex scene. There is an early episode of the sandman - which is purposely disturbing graphic horror - it’s not all lovely Death come to shepherd people to the next life. There is a specific story in Sandman about a muse being kept prisoner and r*ped repeatedly by an author in order to inspire him to write - Calliope. That story doesn’t end well for the author…

*I know the fantasy smut genre is alive and kicking - mainly female written and often unwittingly put on YA shelves by unwary booksellers - it’s not that graphic, but in NG books it always feels distasteful with a nasty aftertaste - maybe because written for men?*

 

[Stinkybinch]

But you don't understand...

She is the only women to have ever have had a child or raise a child without a partner. It is special and unique and so much worse than how it was for everyone else....



I can remember seeing all her NZ pictures, and then suddenly realising that there must have been someone else taking the pictures.

What is funny, is I am sure that until she had her kid, her and her artsy hipster pals would probably mock anyone who started a sentence with 'speaking as a mother....'.

But now every other story out of her mouth starts with explaining how she was left NZ with a kid.

Yes, I am sure it was hard. But unlike most of her audience, she only had a couple of weeks in lockdown and spent most of the time writing songs, wandering around naked, playing concerts etc.

Yep. Used to love her when I was a teenager (all them many years ago) but recall how much she would rant on about how motherhood and marriage ruined you and how she wasn't going to live that sort of life... I remember thinking how fast that changed when a man (Neil) came on the scene with a bit more status and cash than her

She was vile then, I saw her solo for my 16th birthday. It was just before she got into all the shit for taking performers on tour but not paying them. She sent them into the audience after with hats for people to pay money into on her behalf. I was fucking 16 years old and one of them was such an arsehole to me as I had no cash

 

[Flibbertigibbet]

As for quirky second wife, the moment Gaiman got with her I thought, haha, you found yourself a 15 years younger Poundland Tori Amos since the original you liked so much wasn't free. He's looked like a fucking bag lady midlife crisis wanker ever since he's been with her. Clearly has a boner for eccentric artist women anyway.

Great post, and you have the measure of the pair of them. When Tori Amos started her warbling in the 1990s we used to call her a Poundshop Kate Bush. So that would make Amanda Palmer a 50p bargain basket article.

 

[Stinkybinch]

She has been an absolutely self absorbed, narcissistic, vile excuse of a human for a very long time and I hate that finally it has come to light in such a gross way. Those poor women - she is absolutely not the feminist she has claimed to be all along! Everything she does is self serving.

*I'm editing to add on I'm in no way shifting the full blame onto her for his actions, whatsoever, I'm just equally as appalled by her, and really not surprised at all.

 

[Limey]

She's been a balls-out grifter since that appalling 'Art of Asking' book (or whatever it was called). Then having a Patreon and acting La Starving Artiste despite being married to a fucking millionaire. She's an example of making a very little talent go a very long way with an immense amount of self belief and confidence, tbqh. She cannot sing and in the end, became little more than a wandering noisy cult of personality with the aforementioned dodgy self-help type book. Spare me the tales of lift hitching and fan floor sleeping when your husband is minted and now so are you.

As for quirky second wife, the moment Gaiman got with her I thought, haha, you found yourself a 15 years younger Poundland Tori Amos since the original you liked so much wasn't free. He's looked like a fucking bag lady midlife crisis wanker ever since he's been with her. Clearly has a boner for eccentric artist women anyway.

Apparently they both slept around as part of their open relationship then had the combined balls to get butthurt about each other or whatever. Pretty immature for a pair of middle aged and above people. He's 60 now and has probably given up and decided to stick around for the kid. Typical older divorced dude with much younger wife and very young child. The classic 'do over family' because you fucked up with the first one. At least Scientology isn't involved this time. Maybe.

I find Gaiman's 'nice' image increasingly likely to be a typical smokescreen for not being quite as nice as you'd want. I always wondered if like Palmer, he shagged fans. Note most of Neil's uberfans are women on the younger side. With a dose of the kind of quirky he obviously finds attractive.

'Poundland Tori Amos'

Bravo

 

[TheStrawberryThief]

I just read something on Threads where someone was saying apparently Amanda had indicated they closed the marriage when the child they have together was four years old. The nanny event happened when the child was six years old or so.

So. Sounds like Gaiman is an adulterous creep or nagged his way back into open marriage status at some point, likely at that point because of, like most people who demand open marriages, an opportunity veering on the horizon.

Btw, the utter cope I am seeing from a minority of leftist-veering fans is utterly insane. They're trying to paint what would be a project that has taken months and months if not years of research and locking down and checking facts legally to prevent them from being taken to court for libel, into a lashback for bloody David Tennant falling out with Kemi Whatsherface a couple of weeks ago.

Fans, eh. Sorry, a dude being a creep is not an uncommon occurrence. Especially a famous man who positions himself to attract young female fans. An no professional media will touch these kind of accusations until they are very much inspected at a granular level by lawyers and fact checkers. Because nobody wants to be fined millions by a court the very rich person they slagged off dragged them into.

And yes, libel. Gaiman hasn't remotely indicated he's going to take legal action over that podcast and if it were untrue, he almost certainly would use his huge fortune to smash down the journalists and media organ that published that piece.

I am also pretty sick of the contingent that pious promotes 'believes women' and until their pet famous feminist-posturing dude gets caught raping someone.
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And for those who don't have kids?

I mean, the rule should be if they're in your employ, you are in loco parentis in any way, and if you don't wish to be known as a sad old shagger, don't persistently pursue people way, way younger than you, sexually. Don't make it your pattern of behaviour. Nobody really looks kindly upon it, apart from a subset of very gross men. Generally men who do this are very, very immature anyway and know women older see right through them.

I absolutely agree with everything you have to say.

I consider myself to be left leaning, but I have lost all faith in a lot of the left online. It is full of people not thinking for themselves and simply trotting out the same old ' memes' they have seen other people repeat.

In this case, they looked at the article, decided it was connecting to a 'bad person' and dismissed it all out right.

As I have said on the general celebrity thread, regardless of it was or wasn't criminal, if I saw a friend being treated like that by a partner I would be begging her to break it off.

 

[Hollaaa]

Yeah, the power dynamic involved in shagging your employee or a fan decades younger than you makes it questionable behaviour. I think a good life rule, and one that's really easy to remember, is not to have sex with anyone younger than your oldest child.

 

[TheStrawberryThief]

I have now listened to all 4 episodes. Based on what has been said within them, I think it would be hard to prove anything illegal took place.

I did find it especially odd the Scarlet was seemingly flirty and carrying on a relationship whilst simultaneously telling her friends he was abusing her. I also thought it seemed convenient that her friends partner just so happens to be an expert in controlling or abusive relationships ( I can't remember the exact words used).

It also made me think about my past relationships. I can mostly easily remember bad moments from previous relationships and could easily retroactively make a case for poor behaviour from every partner I have ever had, as they probably would for me.

My main takeaway, is that NG clearly handles himself poorly in relationships, and thinks he is some sort of prize to good to be turned down. He is either taking advantage of young people's lack of experience or has no self awareness to understand why people would be so star struck around him that they will always do what he wants.

I was also surprised that he did not deny being interested in rough or ' unconventional' ( being diplomatic) sexual activity and showing little thought or care for his partners enjoyment of the situation. That seems at odds with the way he publicly shows himself to be.

I think it was also clear that he and AP just lack boundaries in general, I have heard other celebrities be accused of this, things like just walking around the house nude in front of employees, thinking it was reasonable to proposition fans or employees. They would probably see it as being artistic or liberating in some way, rather than understanding that it would upset some if those around them ( also see ' sex positive' people who won't shut up about sex and get upset and cry 'stop slut shaming me' when someone tells them that the behaviour is making them uncomfortable)

Lastly, I think we need to make sure the young folk are being educated about what healthy dynamics in a relationship look like so they are confident enough to recognise when something is not good for them.

For example, when K was saying that they were dating but he did not want to acknowledge her in public. Whatever the circumstances, if your partner wants to hide you away you need to walk away.

 

[thegirlscout]

Just in case anyone was wondering what a truly horrible person Amanda Palmer is, here is her blog post about Russell Brand. I'm putting it behind a spoiler with a warning there's a lot of details about assault.

Spoiler: Amanda Palmer & Russell Brands dicey choices

A few words about Russell Brand, and how this all about a lot more than Russell Brand. | Amanda Palmer

Get more from Amanda Palmer on Patreon

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But this is the nightmare part (her words)

In the case of Russell, he’s been really open about his many dicey life choices, so it would be weird to be “surprised” here.

He's being accused of grooming and raping but that's just run of the mill "dicey" lad behaviour.

I just can't with her.

‘People who have done stupid shit can evolve.’ - I wouldn’t say raping a child is ‘stupid shit’. She’s such a moron

 

[Danica Catrick]

I have no proof or source but I read somewhere that they may have already been blacklisted from actual nanny agencies because of their shitty behaviour. Amanda loves to exploit fans though, so maybe they never bothered with qualified (and expensive, less vulnerable, less attractive) nannies. There seems to be a LOT more to come out

Wouldn't surprise me. Actual nannies would not only expect to be paid for their work, they would be unlikely to look at her adoringly and agree with her every word. They might even question how she behaves. She definitely wouldn't want that.

 

[skronkywildcat]

Fucking enablers.

 

[yellowhello]

As a garbage fan in my youth, I am disappointed. I also have no idea what Shirley is going through but Amanda always has to play the victim, and also name drop to try and show people sticking up for her

 

[Nahhh]

Has anyone read about her pretending to be dead and recording her then boyfriend finding her 'body'?

 

[Storam]

She's not like other narcissists, she's a rock n roll & perfomative woke narcissist clinging on to righteousness

 

[skronkywildcat]

First and foremost a rancid narc.

 

[Vanelope]

Her adoption of Māori culture and words seems performative (like the rest of her life). Of course her house guests are part Māori family with two mothers. If they were organic vegans who only wore hemp I would not be surprised. It’s all signposting how alternative and good she, Amanda, is.

 

[Flibbertigibbet]

Long overdue for someone to tell this twat to sit down and shut her fool ass mouth!

Like this talentless beggar C U Next Tuesday was even on Sinead’s radar.

The grief vultures coming out after her death are disgusting.
Didn’t give a shit about her in life but using her to get likes, false sympathy and ass pats on social media

I have never seen the like. This is the first hero from my early teens to die, and nearly everyone in Ireland is sorry about it but every second post on my social media feeds is someone using Sinéad's beautiful face for likes. I am interested in hearing what musicians and bands who worked with her have to say, and her friends and family - when they are ready, but some grifter like Amanda Palmer, or some fucking bar in San Francisco where she had a drink once, some influencer pretending they loved her when all they knew was her most popular song which she didn't even write, they should indeed shut their fool ass mouths as you rightly say!

 

[Cinnabun]

She's a narcissistic loony.

 

[Whatevesmate]

What a grossly self indulgent and narcissistic post - how totally on brand!