Alice Evans & Ioan Gruffudd #235 Alice Evans I am very lazy

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I think calling a victim saying that she has been trolled by various people is "sinking to Alice's level" is highly problematic, and exactly why victims rarely speak out.
Yes I get your point - and I'm not saying Alice should go unpunished. It's more that Alice has been poking and poking and trying to get a response from Ioan and Bianca from day one. She wants to hurt them and wants what she is doing to affect them. It will make her gleeful that she has got to them. I simply don't want her to have that satisfaction, because that's what she has been wanting all this time. Behind the scenes I hope they are pressing criminal charges against her and pursuing the other hateful trolls who have been acting under Alice's direction.
 
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just think Alice will get some perverse pleasure at ANY reaction from Ioan or Bianca.
I agree that Alice is desperate to insert herself with two people who want nothing to do with her. However if they spoke out, it will be speaking to the interested public not Alice. It's about wider issues like cyber abuse, disability discrimination, DV against males and maybe even using kids as weapons in a divorce.

They don't even have to mention her name. It could do a lot of good imo.
 
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Is that Bianca's story? This is actually really terrifying. I know I always say this but I hope those girls are okay. I really hope Bianca is okay too. The first DM headline was really snide and the nasty comments from 'readers' are shocking. I hope she has support. Oh why is Alice so awful? 20 years is a long time and a lot of hurt. So unnecessary ☹
 
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Holy crap. Alice is way more unhinged than any of us ever realized.
Decades.

Decades. Think about that.

I think the children are lost to Ioan for the time being so he has no need to protect her from what she has done.

I imagine within the year there will be something on the record from Ioan's co workers and crews about Alice being a beast. Jessica Alba, SMG, Mattew Rhys could probably be persuaded.

I still think the kids are in danger and they are still publicly connected to pornographic usernames on their public platforms with no intervention by Alice.

Bianca's note yesterday read more like a deposition to me, with the emphasis on chronology.
 
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Call me dumb but is she claiming Alice has abused thousands of people? Or is she referring to one of the hateful trolls? Or the DM?
Alice has abused thousands of people? She's vile - but thousands????
Eta: over twenty years a thousand would be fifty per year or one person per week... so maybe....
 
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Call me dumb but is she claiming Alice has abused thousands of people? Or is she referring to one of the hateful trolls? Or the DM?
Alice has abused thousands of people? She's vile - but thousands????
That reads to me that she would email productions or find out where someone worked and mass email people, like a school system worth.

Imagine 50-80 people on a crew for a production. 15-20 productions over 20 years isn't a stretch. Then imagine her sending emails to those productions of people who interacted with her on Twitter.

I can see thousands quite easily.
 
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Call me dumb but is she claiming Alice has abused thousands of people? Or is she referring to one of the hateful trolls? Or the DM?
Alice has abused thousands of people? She's vile - but thousands????
Eta: over twenty years a thousand would be fifty per year or one person per week... so maybe....
Does seem excessive. Maybe she is including the FMs like Marcia
 
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Call me dumb but is she claiming Alice has abused thousands of people? Or is she referring to one of the hateful trolls? Or the DM?
Alice has abused thousands of people? She's vile - but thousands????
She's probably referring to the abuse perpetuated by Alice as well as her FMs over the years. Alice has a habit of getting a small group of "mean girls" around her to help her with her abuse. We saw it with Deb and Lin and we're seeing it now with the current FM group. And they are prolific.
 
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Call me dumb but is she claiming Alice has abused thousands of people? Or is she referring to one of the hateful trolls? Or the DM?
Alice has abused thousands of people? She's vile - but thousands????
Eta: over twenty years a thousand would be fifty per year or one person per week... so maybe....
Bianca wrote "the same person" so I read it as Alice. Thousands does seem a bit much, even for Alice, and yet we've seen how ballistic she goes, and really her online public abuse seems to be just a fraction of what she was actually sending directly to Ioan and Bianca.
 
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Thousands seems heavy. Hundreds I could see over the 20yrs but thousands is a stretch. Even for Alice bleeping Evans, domestic abuser and fishwife.
 
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Ioan must be going through it. He has just had it revealed how his (ex) wife spent her leisure whilst he was married to her. He knew about some of it, I'm sure, but not the extent. And I bet if he brought it up she'd have had excuses and get all emotional and confuse the issues. Threaten to hurt herself, hurt him. It must have been so hard. There must be so much shame and hurt, rage and embarrasment, so much second guessing going on his mind. So many things adding up, what if's etc. Poor man.
 
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Holy crap. Alice is way more unhinged than any of us ever realized.
Those of us who are old timers knew she was a bleep back in the day, nearly 20 years ago now. I really wish IG had spoken directly with AFE's dad and stepmother about what she did to them instead of believing Alice. It's possible that they have now been in touch with the couple. It was a campaign of abuse apparently, 20 years ago and in 2006 she went after his fans and destroyed his fanbase. I assumed after that that IG had a submissive kink, so he wanted a dominatrix and stopped being a fan, like so many others.

Anyway Bianca you go girl!! I'm here for it.
 
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Something has happened behind the scenes for these posts. Really.
Absolutely. Bianca has withstood so much abuse for so long. I don't see this as something small breaking the camel's back as much as something big has happened. She said in her first post that the last emails directly targeting her health were last year, but I wondered at the time how many other abusive emails Alice has sent her since.
 
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