Ali Abdaal

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Oh he needs to bore off 🥴 I can't believe people watch, and in some cases, idolise, this bullshit.

I am all about being productive but can't we enjoy hobbies simply as they are anymore? Can't I just read a book without it being something profound and life-changing? Sing for the sake of it making me feel good?

I feel like I'm going to go on a rant so I'll leave it there
Exactly my point. I am all about productivity and I like practices like listening at 2x speed too but what ticked me off when he posted something about watching anime at faster speed and then I was like, "What??"
 
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Exactly my point. I am all about productivity and I like practices like listening at 2x speed too but what ticked me off when he posted something about watching anime at faster speed and then I was like, "What??"
For me, he’s completely just forgot how to enjoy things, it’s like it’s for him to tick it off! It’s like he just can’t do anything without being productive or claiming it’s productive which doesn’t help at all because where’s the down time from work? And being in a work like mind frame?
 
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I do hope the productivity nonsense is just for YT and he doesn't actually live like that
 
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Watched a bit of his video about how much he earns and the part where he mentions grad salaries of his peers definitely seems exaggerated - he says that those who did law or economics almost instantly started making 6 figures whereas medicine takes longer. Whilst it's true that medicine generally takes longer to build up income, I remember seeing data about the average UCL grad salaries (believe it was from the ONS or IFS but don't have it to hand, if anyone knows what I'm talking about feel free to link) which gave the average salaries after leaving (I think it was 1 year after?) where the range was roughly £18k to £30k, with medicine at the top followed by economics (£29k), don't remember law but it's probably not representative given that a lot of lawyers take a humanities subject and then a GDip. Law would take longer as an LLB doesn't qualify you to be a lawyer without a training contract (which often have ridiculous competition ratios), and it would probably be a couple of years until you made 6 figures anyway with either of those degrees in almost any job (even in investment banking I think it takes 2-3 years and that's a highly competitive area which very few grads can actually go into). The idea that even a significant proportion of a cohort of econ/law grads make 6 figures *almost instantly*, even from a top uni, is misleading.

I think one problem with medtube in general is how money is talked about: it's either seen as the sole focus of pursuing medicine or denied as being a factor at all (I'm hoping to pursue GEM and even the salary for F1/F2 doctors, which I've heard used as a reason why you shouldn't go into medicine for the money, is a far cry from my household income growing up)
 
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Most of these Medtubers/Productivity Youtuber's come across as if they don't have a life outside doing work
 
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Watched a bit of his video about how much he earns and the part where he mentions grad salaries of his peers definitely seems exaggerated - he says that those who did law or economics almost instantly started making 6 figures whereas medicine takes longer. Whilst it's true that medicine generally takes longer to build up income, I remember seeing data about the average UCL grad salaries (believe it was from the ONS or IFS but don't have it to hand, if anyone knows what I'm talking about feel free to link) which gave the average salaries after leaving (I think it was 1 year after?) where the range was roughly £18k to £30k, with medicine at the top followed by economics (£29k), don't remember law but it's probably not representative given that a lot of lawyers take a humanities subject and then a GDip. Law would take longer as an LLB doesn't qualify you to be a lawyer without a training contract (which often have ridiculous competition ratios), and it would probably be a couple of years until you made 6 figures anyway with either of those degrees in almost any job (even in investment banking I think it takes 2-3 years and that's a highly competitive area which very few grads can actually go into). The idea that even a significant proportion of a cohort of econ/law grads make 6 figures *almost instantly*, even from a top uni, is misleading.

I think one problem with medtube in general is how money is talked about: it's either seen as the sole focus of pursuing medicine or denied as being a factor at all (I'm hoping to pursue GEM and even the salary for F1/F2 doctors, which I've heard used as a reason why you shouldn't go into medicine for the money, is a far cry from my household income growing up)
Tbf - the base salary for an NQ lawyer at the magic circle law firms is over 100K. Chances are that Cambridge grads would be going to these types of law firms so I would say his figures there would be relatively accurate.
 
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not tsoony! he's a great med youtuber. kind of like the eve cornwell of med.
Something is off about him, I can’t put my finger on it, his videos are well produced and he’s honest but there’s something that just I can’t work out about him
 
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Something is off about him, I can’t put my finger on it, his videos are well produced and he’s honest but there’s something that just I can’t work out about him
I love soony but I just wonder if he’s like... ok? As in I just can’t tell if medicine is really what he wants to do. I know we only see snippets but he just seems to be coasting through. I know he wants to specialise in dermatology and I think that’s a good fit for him. He doesn’t strike me as being an A&E emergency med type. Tbh I think a lot of it may be down to confidence as I know he struggles a lot with imposter syndrome.
 
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Yeah, apparently he's responded/reacted to some comments from on here on his podcast with his brother? Might have to give it a listen...
Let us know if he’s honest about some of it, might have a bit more respect for him if that’s the case
 
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Starts at 1h03m, ends at 1h14m. He says the ones that did make him "feel something" are comments on his ability as a doctor based on his youtube content & comments from old patients of his. Made him think about the real-life repercussions of his social media presence.

After the 1h14m mark it's a discussion between him and his brother about Ali's stoic approach vs his feelings about this thread
 
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Yeah, apparently he's responded/reacted to some comments from on here on his podcast with his brother? Might have to give it a listen...
For anyone who doesn't wanna listen to the whole podcast, the comments thing starts around 56:00 minutes. Btw, his brother tried to call him out about sugarcoating his feelings about these comments but he constantly saying he is indifferent to them and does not feel bad. The way he was grappling for words (since he is usually more eloquent than this), though, I think it affected him even for a bit but he was trying not to show that, at least publicly.
 
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For anyone who doesn't wanna listen to the whole podcast, the comments thing starts around 56:00 minutes. Btw, his brother tried to call him out about sugarcoating his feelings about these comments but he constantly saying he is indifferent to them and does not feel bad. The way he was grappling for words (since he is usually more eloquent than this), though, I think it affected him even for a bit but he was trying not to show that, at least publicly.
His brother came across as really kind.

I'm curious what brought Ali to the thread, and encouraged him to discuss it in a video.

Ali, if you are reading - none of us know you in real life. This thread isn't gospel, it's gossip and opinions; you're the authority on yourself. If you are affected by reading here, then please don't do so.
 
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I came here from his most recent video as I can't believe he has a thread on here, but it's fairly tame compared to most theads I've read! I think it would've broke my heart if people were being nasty, he's so harmless. Personally I like his videos, one popped up as recommended one day and it makes a change to the usual popular influencers I watch.
 
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I cant believe there is a thread about him. He is so unproblematic and actually using his channel for some good. Even if you watch it, and pick one useful tip from a video it is 1000 times better than 90% of influencers out there, constantly shoving products down your throat, lying about ads etc
 
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I cant believe there is a thread about him. He is so unproblematic and actually using his channel for some good. Even if you watch it, and pick one useful tip from a video it is 1000 times better than 90% of influencers out there, constantly shoving products down your throat, lying about ads etc
Everything in his life has to be productive?! How is that healthy or unproblematic? He's doing exactly the same as other influencers by promoting something that is so unobtainable. Sometimes its OKAY not to do anything and simply enjoy life's small pleasures like having a piss without taking your iPad with you in the guise of being 'productive'. Wtf is a productive valentines day?

His ADs are also becoming worse.
 
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Maybe Ali isn't 'problematic', but I wouldn't say his approach to productivity is harmless? It's part of a hustle culture/toxic positivity vibe online I find really distasteful.

I also think the way he reads is insane. I will never understand it. Books are amazing, why rush them?

Anyway, Tattle is here for us to express opinions. Compared to most threads this thread is very tame, and if you read through you'll notice a lot of intelligent and reasoned criticisms. Not everyone in life is going to like you.
 
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