Ali Abdaal

[kaede]

He's making about £4k a week from YouTube right now which isn't bad but when you think he was trying to run a central London office plus about 10 staff with those figures....

That's more than most people make in a month. And he doesn't give to charity or to help people other than if it helps him write off his income for tax purposes.

 

[JohnMasters]

I liked her stuff at the beginning, but now she seems like a clone of Ali in her style. People need to be confident to be their unique selves on YouTube which is more interesting to watch. These sort of 'how I remember everything I read' videos are so boring and unoriginal! I would say it's better to have less content which is high quality rather than churning out regurgitated ideas.

Maybe it's just me but I can't imagine dedicating time to listen to some 20 year old with very little life experience, especially not one that chose to dedicate her time to Ali Abdaal.

 

[hollowcrown]

No one should be pouting in photos in 2023

 

[herathebeaver]

did you read what anyone said? that's not an argument but you're acting like it is.

well he definitely hasn't given time because he's basically said he thinks volunteering is dumb. it's in the thread. read the damn thread.


I guarantee most people on here do not stan the royal family or jkr, emma watson sure but a 10 sec google also tells me that she has given $1.4 million to *one* charity alone and millions overall, not sure where you got 1 million from. she also speaks out for and promotes several charities. also how would you know if she hasn't given much more in silence? this is exactly what you're suggesting about ali but for emma it suddenly doesn't apply? but also this argument still does not make any sense because emma watson is not the point of this thread (and she also seems like a genuinely nice person, unlike ali lol).

Listen, the issue isn't that he doesn't give to charity (well he could but I don't expect much from someone like him anyway), the issue is he perpetuates harmful ideas about productivity and money content. He seems very disingenious and doesn't even make his own content anymore because he's outsourced it all. He doesn't declare his ads properly. He ripped people off paying thousands for his course thing that he did (does?). He does weird shit like watch tv in 3x speed and set up a weird e-mail thing for a future wife to write to (can't remember exactly). Probably a ton of other shit that I can't remember.
If you want to go and mindlessly idolize him, go to his braindead yt comments, that's not what this thread is for.

but you guys on here always lambast him for being money hungry and not doing enough for other people--- i am here to tell you must rich and famous celebs are like that, hell most normal people are like that

as for emma watson, she was named in the panama papers along with putin and didnt eve apologise--she just gave a lame excuse abt privacy which was clearly a lie bc that account is still active and plenty of her rich/famous peers didnt resort to the panama papers
a few million may sound like a lot but emma has 80 million and probably millions from reruns/merch sales per year so in her context, a few million is not that much

did you read what anyone said? that's not an argument but you're acting like it is.

well he definitely hasn't given time because he's basically said he thinks volunteering is dumb. it's in the thread. read the damn thread.


I guarantee most people on here do not stan the royal family or jkr, emma watson sure but a 10 sec google also tells me that she has given $1.4 million to *one* charity alone and millions overall, not sure where you got 1 million from. she also speaks out for and promotes several charities. also how would you know if she hasn't given much more in silence? this is exactly what you're suggesting about ali but for emma it suddenly doesn't apply? but also this argument still does not make any sense because emma watson is not the point of this thread (and she also seems like a genuinely nice person, unlike ali lol).

Listen, the issue isn't that he doesn't give to charity (well he could but I don't expect much from someone like him anyway), the issue is he perpetuates harmful ideas about productivity and money content. He seems very disingenious and doesn't even make his own content anymore because he's outsourced it all. He doesn't declare his ads properly. He ripped people off paying thousands for his course thing that he did (does?). He does weird shit like watch tv in 3x speed and set up a weird e-mail thing for a future wife to write to (can't remember exactly). Probably a ton of other shit that I can't remember.
If you want to go and mindlessly idolize him, go to his braindead yt comments, that's not what this thread is for.

what harmful productivity/money ideas does ali perpetuate
also ali has a business to run-- hence the outsourcing and expensive courses
his future wife thing was set up by his assistant as a joke
who cares if he watches tv 3 times faster? not everyone likes the tv

 

[TheTatler]

Tbh I imagine it was about money. Making money from the videos he made about it, making money from being involved with Liberty medics. Has the feel of being a set up just to promote that company more than anything else to me. I might be cynical, but I doubt he had any intentions of going anywhere.

I think he talks about medicine in his recent 2M Q&A video? I don't remember specifically but he mentioned how Doctor Mike, in one of his videos, said that he will never give up medicine, he is a physician first and a youtuber later and all that, and Ali talks about how he is not that invested like Doctor Mike.

 

[zephyr88]

Who is Ali's girlfriend??? I cannot see any reference to her name or a picture?? Can someone post a link please? Thanks

 

[herathebeaver]

y

I grew up below the poverty line. I had a single parent household and although I’m living a solidly middle class existence now, the first ten or so years of my life definitely shaped me as an individual.

I know so many lovely, amazing people who have had to be on benefits for one reason or another. It is not a badge of shame as you seem to think it is, it’s simply another way to stay afloat. You might have to use them at one point in your life - especially with the cost of living rising.

Your parents are admirable, but demonising sex workers and people who need to resort to dealing drugs or getting involved in gangs to provide for their families is not it. They are admirable to. To do whatever you can, even at detriment to yourself, to put food on the table and send your kids to school in clean clothes, is amazing.

and am I saying I’m better than Ali Abdaal? Well, don’t live in a £2.1 million apartment - I live in a shitty student house with four housemates, and I can’t leave sometimes because of my agoraphobia. I don’t donate to charities because I’m poor as fuck and can barely pay my rent. And to you, this means I’m worse than him. Even though, y’know, I’ve grown up giving a shit about people worse off than me and will give a quid to a homeless guy on the street. Would Ali do that?

morality is not black and white, and you are incredibly naive for thinking it is. I’m sure even you have your good and bad sides, just like you, or anyone else on this thread. But please, for the love of god, learn how to formulate a better argument or leave. I’m losing braincells over here.

what i like about ali is that he resorted to his intelligence to make money, not his looks, victimhood, sex work, crime etc.

anyone in the uk can make money in a decent, legal manner, no need to resort to crime, unethical or dangerous practices or to begging others for support

you can work multiple low paid jobs like cleaning etc. to pay for causes that upskill you into higher paid jobs eg. computer programming

and how do u know ali isnt donating to poor people in secret? maybe he doesnt mention ukraine etc, bc he knows he cant really help the ukrainians that way--- he can help them better by donating and multiple media outlets are covering ukraine anyway so to mention ukraine as a money/productivity youtuber is just virtue signalling

granted, ali could engaged in more ethical business/personal practices but none of his business practises harm others in the same way as being a criminal
even if ali is outsourcing his work to poorer people abroad, he is still paying them enough by their standards to live, his not engaging in slavery like the fast fashion industry

 

[JohnMasters]

You’re entitled to your opinion on the matter.

But those are the rules UK influencers and creators are beholden to, and can be fined for not following.

Directly from ASA's website after 10 minutes of digging:

"If the video is largely editorial but includes a section that is advertising, or only some of the products featured are affiliate-linked products, it should be clear immediately before or at the time the advertising starts/the affiliate linked products are featured – either by way of a clear verbal explanation or prominent on-screen text to make clear which parts of the content are advertising."

So not just my opinion.

Got nothing to do with being a citizen, it’s where you’re currently working from, just like if you were living in a country you now have to adhere to their laws. Doesn’t matter about where your audience is, it’s where you are. And they shouldn’t be disadvantaged if the AD is the right fit, the ASA developed these guidelines because it was never clear in the UK when it was an AD and when it wasn’t and they’ve charged several influencers as a result now

50 second ad that is properly disclosed. You'd have to be an absolute imbecile to not figure out the video contains a sponsorship after it was disclosed in 3 places including via spoken word……
Umm what about deaf users? Or people with learning difficulties!

Nope, doesn't apply to the type of content people like Ali make unless the entire video is an ad.

Edit: just read here https://www.asa.org.uk/news/like-comment-and-comply-youtube-and-the-cap-code.html

There's a clear distinction between an influencer post and a vlog that might contain a product placement ad but would stand up on its own without it. So we can all calm down now about reporting and all that. Clearly the ASA doesn't mean all UK youtubers who receive sponsorships for something should label the entire video with "ad". So that's reasonable.

 

[mindlessness]

Agreed, some people on here think that working in healthcare needs to be this all-consuming passion that you selflessly dedicate yourself to, which is fair enough as it's a common stereotype that people have. But it's that kind of attitude that leads to the poor retention rates of medics in this country and a having a fairly balanced attitude to it like ali does seems healthier.

I agree, but on the flip side, I don’t think Ali is ever going to be that person.
I don’t think he’s good at balance.

 

[Jkay]

Has he ever talked about a patient online?

 

[mindlessness]

I imagine he's thinking about one of the executive courses from the Harvard Business School, or a course like this one from Harvard Extension School.

 

[alwayslurkin]

whaaat I thought he had a gf?? Was this video recent

Ah no from like Feb? March? Deffo this year but I only saw it recently. Didn't know he jhad a girlfriend so clearly it worked

 

[JohnMasters]

He's in the UK so has to adhere to ASA regulations rather than FTC:

Influencers' guide to making clear that ads are ads

www.asa.org.uk

Recognising ads: Social media and influencer marketing

www.asa.org.uk

Basically the viewer needs to be able to tell it's an ad before they click on the video to watch (ie. AD needs to be in the title/thumbnail). So many influencers don't do this

You can report UK influencers here: https://www.asa.org.uk/make-a-complaint.html

Sorry but that seems completely unreasonable. Why would UK youtubers have to basically nuke their channels just cause some random authority decided that when other youtubers don't? What if someone moves abroad and it takes 5 years to get citizenship in that respective country? Would they have to use "#AD" in their thumbnails for 5 years just because their citizenship is UK? Or what if 80% of their audience was US-based? It seems more than reasonable to have disclosure in the description, via the pop-up and spoken within the video. Don't really care that it's "law" in the UK, it's a stupid law. The video isn't an ad, it just contains a 50 second ad that is properly disclosed. You'd have to be an absolute imbecile to not figure out the video contains a sponsorship after it was disclosed in 3 places including via spoken word. The idea is not to present a product/service like you're genuinely using it when in actuality you were paid to do so and it seems absolutely ok to disclose it according to FTC regulations.

 

[Hasanah123]

So he laugjed in the latest vid and said he doesnt sleep at 10.30 as it will affect his social life....i thougjt he didnt have one?!?!?

Also, doesnt he go on about waking up early? He said theres no way he'll wake up 6.30 and starting his work at 8 am is 'doable' what an idiot

 

[melono1]

So is she not a doctor anymore? When did she sack that off?

a year ago

 

[SimmieSapphire]

Izzy Sealey

IG: izzysealey

I got the impression that his girlfriend was someone he met relatively recently. Looking at Izzy's bio, it's more likely that Ali has known her for a long time. I'm confused.

 

[Tableflake]

I'm wondering if his father passed away.

What makes you think so?

 

[mindlessness]

As a binge watcher of many actual tech reviewers (as "wannabe" Ali will never be), I'm quite unsensitive to a rich person having a whole bunch of stuff they don't need...

Like, what should he do with them? Donate them and give 4 random viewers a new computer?

Tbf, not that impactful on the world.

Also

After seeing the new video, I think he is suffering from his current life and will suddenly convert to the gentle productivity a la D'Avella / Blakely

Well, given he isn't a tech reviewer, I'd say he should decline the offer of free equipment he doesn't need. Or yes, donate his spare equipment to students from low income backgrounds etc.

 

[penelope92]

Seeing Ali after not watching him for a while can see how he has deteriorated in to some strange sub humam, it’s weird to hear him speak. I can imagine it’s hard for his friends/family to recognise this guy.
It’s like his search for optimisation has just led him to become such an unrealistic guy. Especially feel for his wife, he isn’t a man anymore, just some walking impractical human embodiment of ChatGPT-2.

this is exactly what I felt with Izzy's video! it was just a WHOLE lot of navel gazing.

 

[platypus567]

Has anyone seen his insta post, looks like he's back working as a doctor. I wonder what specialty he's working in