He was doing questionable things with Ruby to the kids as seen on their YouTube channel, but even a lot of that was under the influence of Jodi, as she was their and Chad’s therapist, for several years before they stopped vlogging and connexions began. There have also been several other men who have come forward and said that Jodi used the same tactics during their marriage therapy sessions, separating the father from the family, accusing the fathers of addiction to porn and even accusing them of SA’ing their own children, all fabricated. I really do think it did start with Jodi, and heavily enabled by the Mormon Church. Although Kevin and Ruby are terrible people for exploiting their children on YouTube in the first place. They certainly had no respect for the kids privacy or feelings. And they earned millions, that the children have not seen a penny of.