Lovestolurk

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If my partner punched someone for a bad joke that wasn’t especially offensive it would be a massive turn off for me. I like my men non-violent. As someone said above if they were truly offended grabbing the mic to demand an apology or a witty clap back would have been the way to go about it.
 
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Lady_H

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'I just wanted to help, his health, his mental state.....'

So you fecked him. He was old enough to be your son Jabababa! All her talk of healing makes me want to slap her! And on that note, I have a date, arghhhhhh, laters!
Quite agree. It’s been a while since I saw this conversation but I don’t feel any less nauseous this time around. By her own words she took an apparently mentally vulnerable young family friend, started a relationship in which the power dynamic was entirely in her favour, screwed him, dumped him, and then has the audacity to claim to have healed him through the power of her magical vagina. I note that she also puts the knife into WS by talking about how very long it had been since she felt good, implying that he wasn’t capable of doing that for her.

Trying to spin this whole thing as a some sort of cool progressive alternative relationship in which everyone is relaxed and happy about the infidelity is laughable. The reality is that he is emasculated and humiliated, and she is a narcissistic predator.
 
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MavisWilton

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One of my pet hates in life is American celebrities bleating on about god and higher powers on an awards podium. It's such bullshit. Narcissism dressed up as religious belief. All they really believe in is how great they are.

His entire speech made him look like an unhinged fool. Weeping, self-pitying rubbish- the arrogance of thinking it falls on him to "protect" anyone. Get over yourself, you utter cretin.

So yeah, it's not just the punch, for me- appalling as it was- it was the maudlin, weepy, self-indulgent crap that followed. Man with net worth of $350m cries and feels sorry for himself on live global television- "I'm a work in progress". Take some responsibility, you tool.
 
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Hope96

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I've watched the clip a few times and the level of aggression on show is not normal. He was laughing his ass off until he clocked Jada wasn't impressed. I used to like Will Smith a lot but over the years he's done a number of questionable things but his career hasn't suffered. Chris Rock should press charges to teach the nasty fuck a lesson. They're showing it's ok to smack someone because they didn't like what the other person said. Actions should have consequences not a standing ovation for a man who can't control his anger.
 
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Gym&Tonic

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What a bizarre turn of events. Despite his whole "Mr Nice Guy" persona, Will Smith has always made me feel uneasy, but I could never put my finger on exactly why. They have a strange, cultish family dynamic all round.
This is exactly what I’ve just written on another thread. There is something generally off about the pair of them, there are a lot of unsavoury rumours out about them and this clearly hit a raw nerve. But jeez you can’t go around smacking people and certainly not on live TV. Chris Rock isn’t nearly as caustic as Ricky Gervais, so god help them if they ever attend the Golden Globes with him hosting it.
 
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Vanelope

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It should have been Will Smith, a black actor winning an Oscar for playing the black father of two of the greatest black female athletes, and all the optics are Will Smith slapping another black man. I feel really sorry for Venus and Serena. First Jane Campion and now this - and Will then trying to tie their father into his speech after his bad behaviour. Terrible.

There were so many better ways to combat that bad joke. I understand all the takes from disabled Twitter about alopecia and how he shouldn’t have joked about it. Most ladies with a buzz cut have heard the GI Jane joke. Will Smith way overreacted though, and choosing violence like that, in a professional environment is astonishing to me. It’s like punching a colleague in a meeting.
 
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ahtisyourself

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The most insightful thing about it all is the fact that I come across about 15 people a day who I want to slap in the face but I don’t do it because a) I’m not a psychopath and b) I have self control. So what it tells me about Will is that he’s really not used to being around people who aren’t sucking his balls and kissing his ass. Like he’d never cope in the real world. He’d be going to bed at night needing to ice his palms he’d be that wrecked from slapping the shit out of everyone because people are annoying AF but ya can’t hit them honey
 
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BigMavis

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Why has Chris Rock not pressed charges? Would that mean he couldn't joke about the incident in his stand up routines? Did anyone ask if he was ok? We see images of Bradley Cooper hugging the attacker, why? Is Rock hated in Hollywood, did people really feel he deserved it? This isn't normal. It's not decent. We show concern for people who have been physically assaulted, we don't congratulate their attacker, or is that what we do now?
 
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MyRightTit

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I think it's tough being a celeb especially when you're known for being the laid back happy guy that Will comes across as. It's impossible to keep that up all the time.

However, hitting someone live on TV is not the way to react.
Tough being a celebrity?? They could give it all up tomorrow you know, they’ve made enough money to live a luxurious life for the rest of their days. But they love the adoration, the worship, the fame. Yeah, they have it tough compared to the Ukrainian people, the starving, the terminally ill. My heart bleeds. 😡

Awards ceremonies like this are tone deaf & completely narcissistic. These people aren’t out there saving lives, curing diseases, working down mines. They are richly-paid, pampered, privileged & over-indulged who need more idolising by having awards made to them. It’s obscene.
 
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MyRightTit

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Doesn’t Jada have a mouth on her? Can she not stand up for herself? She has a big enough gob on her at other times!
 
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Badirene

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My first thought was Ricky Gervais hosting, he really goes for it. In any other situation someone slapping/punching would have been removed, but it's celebville where you can get away with anything. Will be interesting to see whose career is damaged most.
Agree on celebville, nobody will take a career hit for this. We are talking about an academy that gave Roman Polanski awards and a standing ovation even though he drugged and raped a child. These people will support anyone that makes them money and Smith makes a lot of money for a lot of people. We will get a few think pieces and then some memes thats it.
 
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SwizzleMalarkey

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The Rock had my favourite reaction. He's been mates with Chris Rock for years. Imagine if he'd have got up and gave a Rock Bottom and Peoples Elbow to Will Smith....
I wonder if The Rock had been presenting an award and made the same joke would Will have gone up and slapped him? Definitely not. Typical bully behaviour picking on someone smaller than him.
 
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Lady_H

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I think like someone said before, this isn't about the alopecia, this is about his wife's affair(s) & he being made a laughing stock over it, in Hollywood, amongst his peers, like does he really agree with an opened marriage or what Jada suggested & he went along with it..
That was very much my impression from the red table conversation, although they made it out to be a mutual decision. There was a moment in that conversation when she says, in response to media stories that he’d given her permission to have an affair, “you don’t give me permission to do that, only I give myself permission”. He agreed with her but I thought the whole thing was deeply humiliating for both of them and utterly emasculating for him. And their willingness to talk about it in public in this way is just bizarre. There was another discussion in which Willow revealed to her for the first time that she’d cut herself when younger. It is truly a bizarre way to manage deeply personal family issues.
 
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Moley1

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The people who should feel ashamed after this episode:
Will Smith.
The Academy for not having him thrown out.
His wife for not trying to calm him down after he returned to his seat having assaulted the host.
Every single person who applauded Will Smith when he received his Oscar (yes including Benedict). These people are the first to say that they are there for the downtrodden, the victims, those who have been treated badly, yet they all stood and applauded a person who moments earlier physically assaulted another human being. It just shows how shallow most of these people are. Hollywood has never been the place where virtue and proper decent human decency is sacrosanct, but it has sunk to a new love with its handling of this incident. We pay these people huge amounts of money and put them on pedestals but it doesn’t give them the right to behave like a-holes on prime time television on a show that is supposed to highlight the best of its industry. If Will Smith is sincere in his acceptance of his bizarre behaviour, he will do us the favour of sorting his problems out privately and not seeking to cash in with a public catharsis that will only inflate his bank balance even more. Most of us mere mortals would have the good grace to slink off into a corner if we had behaved like this. This poor excuse for a human is going to milk it for all its worth. We are now living in the 21st century yet we are still behaving as if we are in the Middle Ages. Trump, Johnson, Putin, Smith. Why on Earth are the people anywhere near positions of power and importance? Why do we never learn? This behaviour is not acceptable. Full stop.
 
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JeanBurns76

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You have Ricky Gervais making way worse jokes about Epstein and Weinstein at The GG, ffs? I mean, what if he really didn’t know she had alopecia? Will is most definitely whipped and as much as I like him, he’s bang out of order for that slap. Rock handles it well. The jokes he made in 2016 were not even that harsh. She kicked off about an industry she’s been happy to reap the rewards of for the best part of her life. Don’t just boycott a ceremony if you feel that strongly, boycott it all. Look at Lisa Bonet, she seems to be someone with the right idea. She genuinely looks bored and unimpressed at any kind of celeb bash or premier she’s attending with JM! Those RT talks opened up a can of worms and she needs to put the lid back on it. She’s lived a very nice lifestyle, so have her kids. I hate that people diss something so much when they have rinsed the shit out of it.
 
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