I've not caught up because frankly trying to keep up with an 18 month old is near impossible šŸ¤£ so I'm sorry if this has already been mentioned.
I've just seen on twitter (reliable, I know!) That 83% of pregnant woman in the pfizer trial who took the vax lost their baby. How true is this?

I was absolutely chastised for not taking it when I was pregnant "did I not want to protect my baby?" When in reality if that 83% is the case I was doing exactly that. The UK government have also made a U turn on pregnant and breastfeeding woman having the Pfizer jab allegedly. Honestly angers me so much!
I was breastfeeding when the jab came out. After ignoring all the text and emails the GP called me (don't have the time for see patients but have time to harass people) he told me there was no reason a I shouldn't have it and it's safe for breastfeeding. I asked if it is licensed for babies, he said no. I asked if he can assure me it won't get into my milk. He said he it was unlikely but I could always stop breastfeeding.

I told him he was ridiculous and I would not stop feeding my child to have a Vax I don't need. I'm still disgusted to this day that a so called medical professional tried to pressure me to take something that had no safety data for breastfeeding, all for what, a commission. What happened to the hypocratic oath.
 
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OALCCC

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Coronavirus is to distract us from the end of the world.

It may make people sit together with their families. Are they fucking kidding me. My father in law died from a heart attack just gone midnight on Friday. Wr are a big, close family. We cannot all sit together and grieve, reminisce, cry and laugh. We cannot be all together like we would under normal circumstances, watching the children carry on with no care in the world. Instead we are separated more than we have ever been. Grieving apart. Relying on facetime and messages. We can't embrace each other. My sister in law is walking into hospital as we speak to go for induction to force her baby into the world before she's completely ready due to a previous unexplained stillbirth. When she brings her baby home she will not be able to share the baby with her family nor will she be able to share the burden of all her emotions right now. Her words to me yesterday were if she could swap this baby to have her dad back she would not hesitate.

My mum dropped off cards. She stood on the pavement outside my house and watched me cry. She cried. This is not bringing people closer together

He was 61. The paramedics said they couldn't take him to hospital because he has underlying health issues there is not a bed for him

He had been self isolating for the 12 week period due to his health issues. He had no signs or symptoms. His wife is a keyworker. She has no signs or symptoms. They have 3 sons and a daughter all with a partner and children. Every single one of us has not shown a single sign or symptom. All 3 sons are keyworkers.
 
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Motherofpugs

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How is everyone feeling after the latest assault on our freedoms?

Even though I knew vaccine passports were coming I still have the sick to my stomach feeling of anxiety about where this is going. I hate that every time they announce something I feel this way. Weā€™re expecting baby number 2 and I keep thinking have we done the right thing bringing another baby into this messed up world. We should be happy šŸ˜”

I just keep trying to focus on my family and carry on regardless. Hope everyone else is doing ok ā¤
 
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tyrellsg

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I've been lurking here for a while. As an NHS worker I'm appalled by the theories being posted here. There is no conspiracy, just a new virus that is killing some people and leaving others with long-term after-effects. In the NHS we have spent almost a year trying to combat it - health workers are exhausted and burnt out. Quite honestly I think you all have too much time on your hands, come and do a shift in one of of our hospitals and see the reality. Do something useful - volunteer at your local food bank for example, just stop looking for things that don't exist. And by the way, I'm not a sheep.
Alot of posters on the thread agree that the virus is very real but the way it is being handled speaks of something deeper. Its not very fair to say people have too much time on their hands when thats through no fault of our own as Boris has shut the country down for the 3rd time now. I have family in the NHS who like you say are exhausted and burnt out but also feel the same as me. I have said in previous posts I do not think it's a fake virus at all and I am not trying to be rude in any way I just everyone is entitled to their own opinion, if we were to post our different views in the coronavirus thread we get laughed at (I personally have) that's why it's seemed to stay in the conspiracy thread because we can't discuss alternative views other than the narrative. I hope i dont get in trouble for this comment and in no way am I trying to moderate I'm just offering my side and opinion.
 
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PoleStar

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I've been lurking here for a while. As an NHS worker I'm appalled by the theories being posted here. There is no conspiracy, just a new virus that is killing some people and leaving others with long-term after-effects. In the NHS we have spent almost a year trying to combat it - health workers are exhausted and burnt out. Quite honestly I think you all have too much time on your hands, come and do a shift in one of of our hospitals and see the reality. Do something useful - volunteer at your local food bank for example, just stop looking for things that don't exist. And by the way, I'm not a sheep.
 
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Mbouzer

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Im on maternity leave and go back in September, I work in healthcare so I know they will be pestering me to get the jab. Im going to use breastfeeding as my excuse for now, whether that stands or not who knows, but I would rather be jobless than to be forced into getting this vaccine, I just hope before then the true extent of the problems come out and they halt vaccinations.
Just make sure I breastfeed till 2023 šŸ¤£
 
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AlanBanan

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I smoke like a chimney and have drank aldi vodka. Why would I be afraid of the covid vaccine?

I also have dated men in the past so it isnā€™t the worst thing that has been inside of me.
 
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Shestheman22

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I too have given up reading the coronavirus threads, they wind me up so much. A few months ago I said I would refuse the vaccine and got jumped on.

Iā€™m absolutely sick to death of reading and hearing about coronavirus. Itā€™s pathetic. Yes of course people have died from it (although not nearly as many as the media would have you believe) and some people take it worse than others. The vast majority of deaths have been elderly with underlying conditions. Same with any virus. No Iā€™m not saying theyā€™re worthless and not worth saving is this whole shutdown of the country justified? Iā€™m sick of people turning on each other and judging each other for their choices. I still only know 2 people that have tested positive. I know a few that have supposedly died from it, yet they had strokes and stuff in the days before they died so these were the actual causes of death.

Most people I know are past caring and are just doing what they want. And Iā€™m my opinion thatā€™s the way to go. Yes my elderly and vulnerable relatives are being careful and Iā€™m still trying to keep my distance from people, itā€™s not like Iā€™m all over them. I havenā€™t visited my Grandma since March as sheā€™s really vulnerable, I try not to visit my dad much as heā€™s really worried about it. But I refuse to stay in my house on my own. Itā€™s really dragging me down and I know itā€™s having the same effect on my family too.

All the way throughout the ā€˜pandemicā€™, I havenā€™t even thought twice about catching it. But i have been stressing about the economic effects, I know so many people that are struggling due to having little work or losing their jobs completely. And for what! Itā€™s absolute madness and I canā€™t believe so many people are falling for the media circus. Imagine if we were in the 50s, there would be none of this hysteria. I genuinely believe that this was all planned as a test to see how far they can push and control people. I would be interested to see the number of people that have died from cancer that could have been treated, suicide from depression due to the mental effects of lockdown etc.

Sorry I just needed a rant, I feel so down at the state of the world.
 
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CrystalWench

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My mum scares the crap out of me with all her conspiracy stuff. Keeps telling me Iā€™ll have to move home and weā€™ll only have a hundred pound a week, sheā€™s stocked up and has alternative power supplies for when they cut the power and we canā€™t get food. I have anxiety anyway and have had since a kid but anytime I call her now it gets worse. Itā€™s hard as my best friend is actually a specialist cardiac childrenā€™s nurse, her brother is a professor in another medical field and my sons uncle is a microbiologist so I know some really clever people who are saying whatā€™s happening, about the vaccines etc and yet thereā€™s my mum saying ā€œwhy would I be telling you something that wasnā€™t true when youā€™re my childā€. She went nuts that Iā€™ve had the flu vaccine and paid for private vaccines for my son. My ex gets his covid vaccine as he also works in the hospital, again she claims now my son will get covid when his dad sheds the vaccine. Itā€™s really crazy how much fear mongering there is from these conspiracy theorists.
 
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Yoghurtpots

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If we told people 2 years ago that in 2 years time you will be locked in your house, its illegal to leave unless for essential shopping, not allowed to see family even at christmas, not allowed to meet outside. Pubs, hairdressers, everything shut except supermarkets AND it was for a virus that produced no excess deaths, flu disappeared, any death within 28 days of a positive from a dodgy PCR test would be classed as a covid death. Media won't let you speak about it. Arrested and fined for protesting. People would laugh and tell you that you were crazy!! That nobody would fall for that! But šŸ‘theyšŸ‘ havešŸ‘. Its fear. People that don't know whats going on and that don't dig deeper than the BBC.. which is most people, have NO IDEA what is going on. They aren't even aware that information is being censored and removed. They read the first result on corrupt Google and think 'nope, Google is telling me its true.. so it must be' then they put on their mask and hand sanitizer and go for their daily exercise thinking they are protecting people. People will never wake up, they aren't designed to, humans are designed to follow. Thats how awful things like the concentration camps, slaves etc happened.
 
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