Eating disorders are exactly that - psychological disorders ultimately all about control. Obesity is the very opposite - it's simple physics. Just because most of us have an emotional relationship to food and excercise doesn't change or deny that reality.
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Surely there is no doubt that obesity is in fact a disease...?This is just it though, you're only focused on what shes been doing lately, when its actually pretty clear that she's had a lifelong struggle with her weight.
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Rosemary MacCabe: How I went from a size 16 to 12 in four months
I still can’t really believe I’m writing this – just over four months ago, I started what was meant to be a six-week challenge with Niamh at Lift Training Studios.www.independent.ie
Even in the height of her weight loss era a few years ago, she never exactly got skinny. I believe that shes genetically the type of person who will always carry weight unless she devotes herself full time to keeping it off. That is an incredibly hard and unsustainable way to live. Its joyless and after a while, I can understand the mindset of feck it anyway, I may as well at least enjoy my food, which I think is where she's been at for the last while.
I don't remotely condone the amount of takeaways she eats but I do think living in America does not help. What she should take responsibility for is not being better able to cook for herself (and her family, but also her husband should be able to do this too), as an almost 40 year old woman. However, I still think she'd have a problem but maybe she'd be at 200lbs, and not 250lbs.
If these injections can help (as you still have to do the work, and suffer the side effects) then I'm all for it. People are actually paying significant sums out of pocket to get themselves to a healthier weight and prevent themselves becoming a burden in later years, with conditions like diabetes, high blood pressure, various cancers etc. If thats not personal responsibility, then I don't know what is.
The HSE defines obesity as - 'a progressive, chronic and complex disease affecting all ages and genders.'
Obesity - HSE.ie
www.hse.ie
The Mayo Clinic defines it as - 'a complex disease involving having too much body fat.'
Obesity - Symptoms and causes
www.mayoclinic.org
The World Health Organisation defines it as - a chronic complex disease defined by excessive fat deposits that can impair health.
Obesity and overweight
Obesity and overweight fact sheet from WHO providing key facts and information on causes, health consequences, double burden of disease, prevention, WHO response.
Self-inflicted entirely preventable 'disease' then. It doesn't just happen out of the blue and for no reason.Surely there is no doubt that obesity is in fact a disease...?
The HSE defines obesity as - 'a progressive, chronic and complex disease affecting all ages and genders.'
Obesity - HSE.ie
The Mayo Clinic defines it as - 'a complex disease involving having too much body fat.'
Obesity - Symptoms and causes
The World Health Organisation defines it as - a chronic complex disease defined by excessive fat deposits that can impair health.
Obesity and overweight
Obesity and overweight fact sheet from WHO providing key facts and information on causes, health consequences, double burden of disease, prevention, WHO response.www.who.int
This is incorrect.
Obesity is caused by diet, lack of exercise, environmental factors, genetics and medical reasons.
I absolutely didnt call you a name.
Im giving other examples of extreme ways for people to lose weight is all.
I think the idea that extreme weight is an eating disorder and requires medical interventions is lost on you tbh.
All good we dont have to all agree, i just find it unconfortable sometimes when i feel the bigger picture is being ignored in order to criticise
I have been in an eating disorder unit at a psychiatric hospital for the last six months. Every shape and size. Every type of disorder. People starving, bingeing and purging to death. The level of ignorance and lack of compassion here is incredible.
Has Rosemary been diagnosed with an eating disorder?
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What’s incredible is that you’re using emotional blackmail to stop people from having an opinion or criticising Rosemary’s takeaway habits
Rosemary has not, to my knowledge, been diagnosed with an eating disorder and she is not at the level of what you have seen in a psychiatric hospital
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What’s incredible is that you’re using emotional blackmail to stop people from having an opinion or criticising Rosemary’s takeaway habits
Rosemary has not, to my knowledge, been diagnosed with an eating disorder and she is not at the level of what you have seen in a psychiatric hospital
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I don’t give a tit about Rosemary. Im speaking generally about people who struggle with their weight and the over simplification being seen in these messages
Emotional blackmail, or simply stating facts?
It is not stating facts. That there are people suffering from eating disorders does not mean that anyone overweight can never be criticised ever.
to use another analogy, there are alcoholics suffering and in pain and drinking themselves to death. Does that mean we can never say that someone has an unhealthy relationship with drink (in the same way Rosemary has or had an unhealthy relationship with takeaways)? Is it showing a lack of compassion towards severe alcoholics if we say someone drinks too much?
anyway it appears that Rosemary does not have a diagnosed eating disorder. She knows she has to overhaul her habits based on what she has said in her substack post
to use another analogy, there are alcoholics suffering and in pain and drinking themselves to death. Does that mean we can never say that someone has an unhealthy relationship with drink (in the same way Rosemary has or had an unhealthy relationship with takeaways)? Is it showing a lack of compassion towards severe alcoholics if we say someone drinks too much?
anyway it appears that Rosemary does not have a diagnosed eating disorder. She knows she has to overhaul her habits based on what she has said in her substack post
It is stating facts.
- Obesity is a disease.
- Obesity is not always self inflicted.
Or perhaps the Mayo Clinic, HSE and World Health Organisation all have it wrong?
God it’s so sad to see people arguing over other people’s weight loss. Leave people and their bodies alone. Comments re takeaways help no one. If Rosemary or anyone else struggling with their weight/body image go down the ozempic/Saxenda etc route fair fecks to them.
Not always self inflicted, yes. But in the case of someone who eats badly, doesnt exercise, lives off takeaways.....
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And I think it's important to mention her takeaways and will continue to. The woman is an influencer and has made a big thing of her spending diaries and how much she spends on takeaways and eating out. She's an influencer who promoted bad habits
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This is Tattle. Rosemary has posted about this so it stands to reason it will be discussed here
And I think it's important to mention her takeaways and will continue to. The woman is an influencer and has made a big thing of her spending diaries and how much she spends on takeaways and eating out. She's an influencer who promoted bad habits
Can we move on a bit from the ozempic/obesity chat I know some of it was relevant to Rmc but this thread is a dragggg surely there’s some ozempic thread for people to debate on
I think you’re right, it seems to be a sensitive topic for some posters
So where has Foxwarren gone to?
So where has Foxwarren gone to?
And is anyone subscribed to the substack - im sure she shared a story teasing some tea of FW in substack
It's $200 a month for the generic version.She also tried to justify the 1000 dollar a month cost by saying she'd save money on takeaways