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That was Julia Boer - I wonder what happened to her too.
I wonder about her and all the young vegan teens who still lived at home and their parents seemed to be fine (and maybe even fund) their trips to Chang Mai with freelee/durianrider. Seemed batshit to let your 16 year old travel across the world to hangout with these older batshit vegans who got quasi-famous from criticizing other youtubers diets. Especially after the sexual assault allegations seemed to creep up. Wouldn't surprise me at all. Durianrider and some of those guys were questionable at best (and that's being kind).
 
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Miss polar

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Paul is now telling us that he and Jason have very strong lungs as they do breathing exercises every night and "have done for years". OK does that counteract the heavy smoking huns?
Eh .- very strong lungs😀 They’re both smokers, and Paul is having some investigation for something on his lung. Think he’s had a couple of X-rays.How bloody deluded is he! I notice their vids are getting a lot of downvoting!
 
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Lionsden

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Remember Mr and Mrs Vegan? Just saw this lol. Glad he got hacked and banned ngl, he was rude and damaging in a private group of mostly impressionable young girls. Their family have a lot of problematic views anyway (trump, all lives matter, anti vaxx type iirc....)
I remember them. They were a creepy couple, she was super dumb, he acted like some kind of overlord. And, yes, their views were disgusting. They disappeared from Youtube when their first child was born but they have cringeworthy accounts on Instagram.
 
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Tea&Toast

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He's very open about how he wants to grow both channels, in a way that's drawing back the curtain too much and just feels very cheap. I wish he would edit his videos more. I find it irritating when youtubers talk about channel analytics too much with their subscribers. It just feels very transactional. Make content people actually want to watch, and hope the algorithm picks you up. He'll probably use the money the fools are sending him to buy subs at some point.
When you say it feels very transactional, he used to be a sex worker and made a video about it. Theres nothing wrong with sex work between consenting adults and he’s not ashamed of that which is fine, but what really bothered me in the video, is he made no distinction between that and child prostitution and pedos.

Paul said he tried to do a talk at VCO and they never even bothered replying to him, that’ll be the real reason he doesn’t wanna go there anymore. Hes been sacked from nearly every job he’s been in and has admitted he’s unemployable. And of course the narcissist in him can’t resist having a go at anyone in the comments who dares to disagree or criticise anything they do.
 
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Lionsden

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Still loads of great vegans though! Don't let them turn you off of it. Most of us are so normal 😂
I don't connect these traits to veganism at all. Most conspiracy theorists, racists, freaks, whatever, are still omnivores. I remember seeing videos by Freelee and Durian Rider well before I became vegan myself. I thought they were bizarre and grotesque but I would never have associated not eating animal products with them or their behavior.
 
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oshare

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Didn't Miles get especially weird after getting together with his gf? (Idk if they are still together/married/partners)
He was always a bit strange but I did enjoy his WIEIAD videos way way back, but at some point he just got soooo weird and had such strange takes I couldn't stand it anymore like completely crazy
 
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Millennial Pink

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Why is he surprised he gets asked about only fans? He posts so many twink thirst traps, people probably think he's already in that line of work (no shade, people can do what they like as far as I'm concerned) and I don't really understand what Only Fans has to do with being in a relationship. People in relationships put content on there all the time, it doesn't have to be THAT explicit.

I was just sick in my mouth a bit at his response to the 2nd question. Sharing info about your gf's 'sexual healing' when she's not in the video feels so off, and then answering personal questions like how often they have sex. He puts out a lot of this word salad, 'been in therapy', faux-vulnerable nonsense and I just can't be bothered with it.
 
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oshare

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It does feel like we're going backwards as a society. I think Miles is just an overprivileged, undereducated manchild. That gf of his doesn't help.

I think the only vegan youtuber I still watch is Nicole Whittle.
I recently started following her, she's great. I still watch a lot of vegan youtubers actually, a lot of them are still fantastic thankfully!
 
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In my opinion they are both in the throes of an ED, they have both gotten thinner and thinner over the years, but they call it healing...
Veganism unfortunately attracts a lot of people with pre-existing EDs because it's very restrictive and has a reputation (not always earned) as being the best for weight loss or control. Freelee, who is batshit insane, was seriously anorexic before she invented her batshit insane 'vegan' banana diarrhoea diet. Fancy, a person who is obsessed with being very very thin, inventing a laxative fruit diet that causes bowel purging. Shock!

It doesn't shock me either that so many vegan YTers turned to other batshit diets, like going full bore carnivore, raw meat-eating, total plant-hating, fibre- eschewing stuff. One, it's extremism and outrage that drives the algorithm and gets the clicks. Secondly, people looking for diets as cure-alls tend to bounce from one extreme and restrictive option to the next over the years. I know someone like this IRL. Years of bowel issues, probably some form of IBS, and she has gone from growing her own beansprouts ethical and health-obsessed vegan to full on raw milk-obsessed, raw meat eating, plant hater in the past three years since following some carnivore loons on YT and now claims the all-meat diet is the only one for all humanity and all disease is caused by wrong diet, specifically plant-based ones. She tends to extremist positions on everything though, so it's simply a reflection of how she deals with reality, needing tight little boxes to feel secure. People with this mindset seem to always need a highly prescribed, prescriptive diet that is 100% out of tune with mainstream food cultures to feel special and secure for some reason. It's a cultish mindset. Food and diet as defining social identity.
 
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Millennial Pink

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There's a lot of these anorexia recovery videos around. Why you would want to document that online is beyond me and I can understand how it would possibly trigger those with similar issues.

There's raising awareness about mental health and then there's just oversharing. It's probably better to wait until you're recovered to a point when you can talk about it with some clarity and have more control over viewer expectations.

Much love to anyone struggling atm.
 
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oshare

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Yeah I liked her video as well and it's important to reflect upon ourselves and see what we can and cannot improve. I have been reflecting a lot the last few months as well and have made quite some changes (I've been showering completely cold for a while now bc of gas, started making my own soy yoghurt...). But there are also things I simply can't help, like the amount of waste from medication. I am also depending on other people for groceries bc of my illness, so I can't help the amount of plastic I receive from fruit and veg.
I am also interested and curious to see how her content changes when she moves to America, I'm interested to see if she can maintain her lifestyle when she's with her partner now. I really enjoyed her long silentish meal prep video, it was really comforting. I love watching her make bread.
 
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Millennial Pink

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I watched his latest video against my better judgement. I think Miles is developing some kind of God complex. No one is good enough for him. Except Jil (obvs).

Maybe someone would see their GP to get a referral to a registered dietician? People probably aren't expecting a GP to give nutritional advice but people generally need a referral to see specialists.

On the online coaching thing, he's clearly bought Jil's bullshit and they're both loving it. He's essentially criticising himself there. I've been waiting for him to realise this for months and he just seems to be getting worse.
 
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I went to read the comments of freelees BLM but they're turned off. It makes no sense why she's doing this. She can't sell many of her dangerous ebooks and will be demonetised for that. What's the point?

Her video is totally unwatchable with that bouncing up and down. Isn't that an exercise to do before starting the camera for energy? Not to keep doing it throughout 🤦‍♀️
 
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oshare

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What makes you think that Simnett Nutrition is anti-vax? Maybe he doesn't take the vaccinate for himself (I don't know, I haven't heard about it), but I don't believe he's really anti vaccination in general. Avantgardevegan I stopped following a long time ago.

I recently discovered a (for me) new channel by the name Sweet Greens Vegan. I adore her so much. 10/10 recommending. I also love she's a (VERY BEAUTIFUL, like she's STUNNING) black woman promoting a vegan diet in stead of your typical skinny white girl (literally me lol), she just cooks like normal people and she's so sassy. I love her attitude. I can listen to her talk all day, I swear.
This is her latest video:

 
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Lionsden

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This was debunked years ago, but of course Miles has to treat it like truth and gloats about it. I used to think he was a smart guy, but sharing stuff like this without fact-checking is very stupid.

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Lionsden

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It's such a shame as Miles was one of the refreshing voices calling out the bullshit of the high carb low fat/raw/heavily restrictive diets and before jil he seemed to be seeing friends and eating out normally etc. Hope he is doing well and not restricting, he does look very thin these days.
I agree, I always appreciated him for that. I'm glad he has found someone and is happy, he was single for a very long time as far as I know. But I'm not sure Jil is good for him in all areas. They see their connection as really deep and cosmic and they seem to base their lives around their sexual relationship and eating fruit together. I don't even think Jil is working and earning her own money anymore. It's really weird.
 
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