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And are you paid the same as your normal salary?
There’s a threshold, you’re definitely not paid your normal salary, depending on what your salary is it could work out better, or worse:


For the first 10 days of jury service, you can claim up to:

  • £64.95 a day if you spend more than 4 hours at court
  • £32.47 a day if you spend 4 hours or less at court
If your jury service lasts longer than 10 working days, the amount you can claim increases. You’ll be able to claim up to:

  • £129.91 a day if you spend more than 4 hours at court
  • £64.95 a day if you spend 4 hours or less at court
 
There’s a threshold, you’re definitely not paid your normal salary, depending on what your salary is it could work out better, or worse:


For the first 10 days of jury service, you can claim up to:

  • £64.95 a day if you spend more than 4 hours at court
  • £32.47 a day if you spend 4 hours or less at court
If your jury service lasts longer than 10 working days, the amount you can claim increases. You’ll be able to claim up to:

  • £129.91 a day if you spend more than 4 hours at court
  • £64.95 a day if you spend 4 hours or less at court
How on earth does this work if you get a long case?

You potentially wouldn't earn enough to cover the mortgage/rent let alone any other bills.
 
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How on earth does this work if you get a long case?

You potentially wouldn't earn enough to cover the mortgage/rent let alone any other bills.
The jurors on the Lucy Letby case must be up tit creek. That's going on 8 months now
 
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How on earth does this work if you get a long case?

You potentially wouldn't earn enough to cover the mortgage/rent let alone any other bills.
Like I said, it depends how much you get paid normally. £129.91 is 609.55 a week, and £2438.20 a month, tax free, which is a lot than what most people in the country would get.
 
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If it looked like I’d pulled a long case I’d have to do anything I could to get out of it. I’ll hold my hand up and say I just couldn’t do it. I’d have to pretend to have met the defendant or to be massively biased. Once you start, you’d have yo see it through.
 
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What I’ve always wanted to know is: if on jury service a jury found a person guilty or not guilty, but the judge, when watching evidence during the trial, has clearly spotted something that 100% proves that the jury has made the wrong decision and the accused is innocent/guilty, are they allowed to intervene, or be forced to send an innocent person to jail or let a guilty one off free?

If anyone knows, it will be my “today I learned” :)
 
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I work in commercial insurance and a lot of policies will pay the employer for lost earnings to a certain limit for jury service to cover salaries.
 
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What I’ve always wanted to know is: if on jury service a jury found a person guilty or not guilty, but the judge, when watching evidence during the trial, has clearly spotted something that 100% proves that the jury has made the wrong decision and the accused is innocent/guilty, are they allowed to intervene, or be forced to send an innocent person to jail or let a guilty one off free?

If anyone knows, it will be my “today I learned” :)
If it was such an obvious issue then the judge would be able to stop the trial and dismiss the case without the jury ever having to go out and deliberate.

As for a guilty person getting off then that can and I'm sure does happen. If a jury returns a verdict of not guilty a judge can't overrule that.
 
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What I’ve always wanted to know is: if on jury service a jury found a person guilty or not guilty, but the judge, when watching evidence during the trial, has clearly spotted something that 100% proves that the jury has made the wrong decision and the accused is innocent/guilty, are they allowed to intervene, or be forced to send an innocent person to jail or let a guilty one off free?

If anyone knows, it will be my “today I learned” :)
They give a directed verdict don’t they? Basically stop the trial and tell the jury what to do.
 
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They give a directed verdict don’t they? Basically stop the trial and tell the jury what to do.
This sort of happened in one of my trials. Basically there was a whole host of charges against someone and the judge said (in a more eloquent way) “you won’t necessarily be able to find him guilty of all charges as there isn’t the evidence but the severity of the other charges where there is evidence would override them”. So basically he’s guilty on the higher charges so don’t worry about the lesser ones as he’s going down anyways.
 
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How on earth does this work if you get a long case?

You potentially wouldn't earn enough to cover the mortgage/rent let alone any other bills.
Yeh my employer would no way pay me if I wasn't going in. We don't even get sick pay. I'm a teacher so they would be paying someone else to cover for me. As much as I would love to do jury duty thinking about having a case that drags on for ages would put me.off
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If it looked like I’d pulled a long case I’d have to do anything I could to get out of it. I’ll hold my hand up and say I just couldn’t do it. I’d have to pretend to have met the defendant or to be massively biased. Once you start, you’d have yo see it through.
Or just pretend to be massively racist or sexist or something 😅
 
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On Jury Duty, I assume if it’s a long case you can’t exactly take annual leave to go on holiday etc? Because you all need to be there all the time. I would be pissed if it lasted longer than 2 weeks. Of course we need juries for justice etc but I think I would be struggling to cope with being away from my job for months and not being able to take annual leave etc, plus then having to deal with the huge detail of the case (and any possible mental health triggers it might bring).

TIL: The moon has moonquakes!
 
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On Jury Duty, I assume if it’s a long case you can’t exactly take annual leave to go on holiday etc? Because you all need to be there all the time. I would be pissed if it lasted longer than 2 weeks. Of course we need juries for justice etc but I think I would be struggling to cope with being away from my job for months and not being able to take annual leave etc, plus then having to deal with the huge detail of the case (and any possible mental health triggers it might bring).

TIL: The moon has moonquakes!
I just looked up moonquakes and this made me laugh

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And ^ that was my expression when I saw this!

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Like I said, it depends how much you get paid normally. £129.91 is 609.55 a week, and £2438.20 a month, tax free, which is a lot than what most people in the country would get.
When I did jury service we were told that one of the cases in court that week was a fraud case that could potentially last for weeks and asked if we were available. I definitely was not as I was pregnant at the time.
 
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