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Squittel

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This woman knows that most people would want to help a disabled person being bullied, so she is pushing all the right buttons and she got fairly far with it. But people like me will immediately google for more information, and wonder why the local papers haven't mentioned it, or why there's absolutely no evidence in her video, just a story that makes no sense because no one would make it to a solicitor's office, never mind a court, with a claim that they are owed compensation because they had to interact with a disabled person. What is very clever of her is to rile people up enough to get them to shout down people looking for evidence, as happened on Irish social media.

Sorry if I was sharp, but Jesus this woman caused a row over here!
To be fair, there wasn’t really much to google before the name reveal, she was known only as Jade and like I said a few posts ago, stranger things have happened! I didn’t think it was a massive reach that someone might have been offended by a disability. However, yes, I’m sure if you live in the area and have friends in the area then it becomes a lot easier to cast a critical eye. I even put some of her inaccuracies (like the fact she said the guy arrived on his own and they said something else, I can’t remember the detail) down to her claiming she has early onset Alzheimer’s and struggles with details. I know it’s possibly naive but I guess I did just take it at face value.
 
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Ashila

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Wow thank you so much for doing this!

This entire saga is bewildering to me. I'm really surprised at the amount of tiktokers I respect being naive and defending this person - personally I would just be quiet and not say anything

I'm glad people on this thread are as suspicious as everyone has taken that statement and has basically said she's not lying but it arose more red flags for me than anything - what sister????

I do hate the thought of a witch hunt against an innocent person but I don't necessarily think it is. I think there's no smoke without fire! People have questions and if she's innocent she could just make a video and laugh it off. The entire debacle of shutting down all of her profiles makes it look far far far worse.
If it’s a witch hunt, for me at least, it’s the most accidental one ever. Most people supporting her say ‘just google her’. And that’s why I did. The most common descriptor for her (that I have seen at least) is that she is an author. And while that is technically true when I looked into to it is slightly misleading (my earlier posts have screenshots and links).

This lady had been regularly showing up on my FYP and when I first heard about this I really did think it was some particularly vulgar trolling. I understand why people are hesitant to be overtly suspicious. She’s either very physically vulnerable or mentally vulnerable. One of those is definitely true and I hope she has some people who really care her close by.
 
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Insomiaflamingo

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One thing I keep thinking with this is how stupid she’s been. If she relied on air bnb for income then she’s just lost that income. Was the attention worth losing her business?
 
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I'm glad you've confirmed she's deleted the YouTube. Spent bloody ages writing out a message outlining everything that has been raised and had several responses from others including a 'brother?' and then less than 5 mins later the video had gone. Thought I'd been blocked 🤣.

Ancestry stuff

Sorry if this is a bit jumbled, had to work backwards.

- Samantha Jade Cookes, mother's maiden name Williams, birth registered in Gloucester December 1988, could mean November birthday to match her company records. A cousin and someone who apparently knew her growing up (will call him Tiktok John) say this is her, birthday November 1988.
- Samantha Cookes is in Gloucester until 2008, when she shows up in York University halls. The Samantha Cookes who pulled the surrogacy scam dropped out of York Uni in her first year, 2008. I do believe the part about her losing her baby as evidence must have been submitted in her court case. There is, unsurprisingly, no public record of her after 2008.
- Cousin says she's the one that went missing 2013 and ended up in Ireland.
- The only other Cookes with mother's maiden Williams in Gloucester is indeed a younger brother. I'll not name him for privacy reasons, he's nothing to do with this. No sisters. This is what her cousin and Tiktok John say.
- Tiktok John says her dad's name was Les and he died a few years ago. There is indeed a record for a Leslie Cookes in Gloucester, about the right age, died 2016. His middle name is the same as the possible little brother but it is a very common one. I found his brother's name and an obituary names all the people I came across on my Facebook travels.
- Leslie Cookes married a Williams in 1987. As above, had Samantha in 1988 and a younger brother.
- Leslie Cookes married a Smith in 1970. They had two sons and I've found them both via the cousin's Facebook. These would be the two older half brothers people are giving the cousin shit about in tiktok comments - she originally said Samantha only had a younger brother as the half brothers are older and never lived with her. Ancestry puts them as teenagers when Samantha was born so this seems legit to me.
- There is no Carrie Cookes at all. Anywhere. There were a few Carolines born in the 1800s.
- The only Carrie Williams in Gloucester had a different mother, was born August 1983 and death registered the same quarter.
- There's one Carrie Williams with mother's maiden name Williams born in Shropshire but she's too young and I can't link her to any of the rest of them. It's quite a common name in Wales and along the English side of the border.

It's 100% all the same person and hopefully her family can be left out of it now.
Move of Fact Freek we've a real sluice in town!!
 
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Falkor

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She states on one of her short stories that her actual name is Cameron and she goes by 'carrie'
Cameron Cook is the name of one of the characters in Jilly Cooper's novel, Rivals, which was published in 1988, the year Samantha was born. Just a coincidence, I'm sure, but I wonder if her mother was reading it?
 
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Deeznutslol

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To be fair, I’m a bit obsessed and I had no dealings what so ever! I just feel like there’s so much more to come out.
Discussing the situation on a gossip forum is very different to repeatedly making tiktok videos talking about it and contacting her family members though tbf.
I think those who have overly involved themselves with this Olivia shit need to give their heads a wobble. It’s too far!
 
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Deeznutslol

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I don’t know what this means for Olivia but the account the videos and photos were from has been found.

This doesn’t mean Olivia doesn’t exist, but it does seem like the photos she was using was from a different account.
I mean… I think we can take this as Olivia not existing tbh. And if such a person does exist, it definitely isn’t the person who has been making videos claiming to be her with someone else's stolen pictures lol.
 
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Squittel

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New Forest Sarah has posted about it, she’s managed to find the article now (which she was earlier saying was fake because she couldn’t find it 😂) The usual “I am very smart but don’t forget also compassionate” style of somehow-still-smug response.
 
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polarbearninja

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I'm not convinced any publication will cover this story with the risks of defamation in Ireland and the risks of saying a disabled person is faking.

I'm not sure any more proof will come out and people will continue to believe her (even though her stories don't line up).
 
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IAlreadyDespiseYou

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Maz is an attention seeking drama queen who will jump on any bandwagon or story for clicks and views. She literally was almost hysterical when she realised she’d backed this woman, and then found out it was probably fraud and made a huge drama of telling her followers. They all need to go and get jobs and walk away from social media and come back to real life. Social media has created this alternate world where people can be conned and tricked so easily.
 
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WhatABore

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The amount of people on TikTok that believe this is astounding! Someone’s said to (who I think we’re referring to as) TikTok John that he doesn’t know Samantha Cookes as he didn’t know about the half brothers. I have half siblings many of my friends don’t know about. My Dad left their Mum for my Mum and they don’t talk to any of us. It’s completely plausible he didn’t know about the half brothers, but knew her.
This is the same as me!
My half siblings were in their late teens/early 20s when I was born and if you asked any of my friends and people that know me, they would say I have 1 sister and that's it. When I have a half brother and sister as well.

Can guarantee half of my mums side of the family, if asked, would probably just say I have 1 sibling too
 
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Yeah, it definitely wasn't where I expected this to go and apologise for sharing those notes. Not that it's an excuse but it is something I now recognise was probably ADHD impulse control/dopamine chasing issues that I need work on, as well as being angry at all the ableism. I certainly wasn't gleeful about the lack of baby records on Ancestry, mainly interested in matching up details with the court case, but I suppose I'd prefer it if she hadn't actually lost a baby? Same as I don't want her to actually have HD if that makes sense. Awful thing to lie about but worse to have actually experienced.

I can understand why the notes were originally posted. The #BeKind crew had been attacking this woman for days for trying to figure out if she'd been scammed (remember, it's sensory stuff people are ordering for their disabled kids' Christmas presents) and demanding evidence. They got it, it just turned out to be horrifying. Newforestsara is still encouraging people to order from Carrantha.

She's definitely seriously ill, it's easy to see where it escalated now and I hope she gets the help she obviously needs too. This has got so much bigger than I expected so I'm gonna take a step back before I cross any more lines. She has done bad things but the people who've given her money have the info they need now. I'm really sorry if I upset anyone.
you only posted here to discuss, no blame on you at all. I don’t agree with the woman on tiktok who shared it. You didn’t do anything wrong it’s ok 👌
 
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pink_norris

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Doesn’t say a lot does it, doesn’t explain anything

The last sentence in particular is strange “leave us in peace at this devastating time”. Her sister was taken for court and found guilty and she started the whole Airbnb thing

Still a lot of questions unanswered, if anything she has made it worse.
 
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titan22

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The cousin is 100% legit - that’s the only thing about this whole saga I’m sure of 😅
This saga is better than any Netflix drama anyways, I just hope it doesn’t end on a cliffhanger😂 I’ve gone down the rabbit hole I need answers now 😂

What does the cousin say about all this
Natalie is Samantha Coates cousin, she said Samantha is the girl who went missing and the same girl who did the surrogacy scam. She said Samantha doesn’t have any sisters and neither of her parents had/have Huntington's disease.
Carrie is Samantha
 
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Deeznutslol

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Im amused because as well as the “keep it on tattle” rule about not contacting creators directly the first rule is about not attempting to moderate threads

I’m not moderating anything lol.
If you wanna put yourself in danger of getting doxed for a bit of clout on an online forum, then go ahead, but about a month ago I saw another tattler get doxed by an influencer for doing the same thing and he even emailed her employer about it.
So yeah, not a smart move and it’s kinda shitty you’re encouraging it by trying to make out like me saying this is some how modding.
 
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I saw her TikTok’s come up a few times and multiples times she declined any financial support etc from followers so how could it have been a scam?
 
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WhatABore

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Has she said she lives in America? Idk it’s all just a bit far fetched for me at this point. I’m cautious of believing anyone who says anything without solid proof tbh
I don't exactly believe her.
But I certainly don't think she's stealing anyone's photos because I saw that video of her talking about this.

Do I believe she's her daughter? I don't know.
But I just think she looks so much like Carrie so I'm finding it hard to not believe her 😂
 
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Ashila

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I had a look into her activism. The Irish Independent reported on “The installation, titled ‘A.I Robots and Spoken Word’, will be incorporating the future of technology with spoken word in Irish, English and Sign Language and it will launched at 7pm on the night.”. This is the Listowel theatre group from Twitter.
1. On the 3rd of April the event is advertised as a poetry day Ireland event.
2. On the 13th of April the facebook group announces that “Carrie Jade Williams is creating the first fully accessible art installation in Ireland that incorporates assistive technology, artificial intelligence, sign language and spoken word”
3. On the 22nd of April the event is promoted again and says “ AI robots alongside humans will get the chance to explore their words and explore the power of communication while pushing the limits of technology”. The promotional flyer for this has a picture of a robot (important for later).
4. On the 27th of April the venue promotes the event again but this time as a poetry event. Carrie’s name is not included in those listed but it does end in ‘…. and of course THE ROBOTS’
5. April 28th the theatre company posts some images and videos. It portrays this as a poetry event ‘curated by Carrie Jade Williams’. The only robots are robot fish held up in a fish bowl while a haiku is being read. The chairs appear to be visually sensory however. No mention is made of braille.
A twitter account using the same robot picture from the earlier flyer called @speakingrobots with the byline “we are an art installation attempting to integrate accessible robots in the art world”. It doesn’t appear to show any robotics but has pictures matching the sensory lights similar to the facebook pictures. The account appears inactive shortly after this event.
Link to the Independent article: https://m.independent.ie/regionals/...-first-ever-ai-art-installation-41553993.html
Every claim I’ve heard about her sounds convincing and even survives a quick google but when you look a little closer it starts to fall apart.
I hope I am wrong though and there is a better explanation for all of this.
 

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