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[-eira-]

What I'm not sure about is the surrogate scam. I can't tell if the photo is of her and the article says she was 23 in 2011, but then the Shrewsbury article says she was 24 in 2013. One of the journalists could just be wrong about the age, but I just think it's possible that there is another Samantha Cookes who committed the fraud.

If you’re 23 in 2011 then you can be 24 in 2013 due to birthdays and the time of year. For example if your birthday is December and your turning 23 in 2011 then you will be 24 for a majority of 2013.

 

[Squittel]

New forest Sara is still defending ‘Carrie’ and having a go at someone who posted about Samantha in the first place. She’s worried Carrie will commit suicide as this witch hunt has driven her off social media. There’s nearly 200 comments defending Carrie


I remember when the awful accident happened recently with the boy who fell from a ride to his death, a girl was all over social media and the actual media claiming to be his cousin. People believed it until the family came forward and said they had no idea who she was!

That doesn’t surprise me.

On that note, I can say with 100% certainly that the Natalie Cookes on TikTik is the same person as the Natalie Cookes on Facebook and therefore can say beyond reasonable doubt that she is indeed Samantha’s cousin.

On the new forest Sarah subject, I think what she doesn’t seem to get is that there are a fair few people (more than I thought) who have made orders of £100+ through the website. People making videos because they are worried they won’t get their ordered and because she hasn’t followed up on booked in zoom calls are not participating in a “witch hunt” they are just worried they’ve been scammed! There’s a group of about 4 of them who have all spent 3 figures on her website who are understandably concerned.

 

[Sp20191]

I thought this too.

Saw a video where a woman just read out the statement. Didn't say anything else and some of the comments were,
"See, bet all these people saying she was lying are embarrassed now"
"She needs a proper apology from everyone"
"I knew she wasn't lying. This just proves it"


It doesn't prove anything?

Surely everyone can’t just blindly believe someone…especially when none of the story really adds up.

obviously it ‘could’ be her sister, but there must be a little part of them that thinks it’s a bit convenient…..

 

[Seeing_the_light]

@Justacatindisguise seriously good research

 

[HenriiCoop]

Damn, got to register to read it!

Here you go: https://archive.ph/Z5qMu

 

[Justacatindisguise]

Same I’m so lost again 1st she was using her videos, then it was her daughters and now she’s privated the account make it make sense

Plot twist: that account is Sam

 

[Justacatindisguise]

One thing for sure is I never want to see that scribble face filter again it low key freaked me out

The tattle are evil thing is really stressing me out though, I'm not used to posting on here I tried to stay on the fence with Olivia as I didn't know everything, i admit I did sway massively between troll to someone potentially involved, but I don't think I've went in on anyone? and i didn't enjoy or get a kick out of watching the shit show last night. Some parts were a little much (which I think i said last night) so I made a joke out of the jam jars because that was just about her drinking out the jar?

I joined for one grifter, came to this thread to figure out wtf another one was doing. Not sure what's evil about that lol. We put all the Sam/Carrie stuff together while some people still weren't believing it was a scam Some of them have seemed quite annoyed that new accounts can't post here atm as well.

I mean you won't catch me anywhere near, say, the Katie Price threads. Some bits of tattle are grim. There are also some corners full of hilarious, intelligent, compassionate people. Try not to get too stressed about what they're saying (which I cba to even go look at, boring). You're not a bad person or anything for posting here.

 

[Squittel]

A two part documentary coming out about Samantha/Carrie later this month, it’s reportedly also been picked up by the BBC.

 

[femmegirly]

This is the police update if this person was missing in yorkshire how can she have a b & b in ireland

Wrong missing Samantha. She was Samantha Cookes (with an ‘e’) and was missing in 2013, not 2022 like in the article you posted.

It’s definitely her. Look at her mole in the missing photo: https://www.shropshirelive.com/news/2013/10/10/police-appeal-to-find-missing-shrewsbury-woman/

“it is now thought that Samantha may have made her way to Ireland” is one hell of a coincidence.

 

[polarbearninja]

Regarding the Airbnb - It’s not unusual that two sides of a story would differ. No way of knowing which is truthful. I’d suspect there’s truths and not so truths on both sides. Im sure this has happened in your own life too, two differing accounts of the same story when there’s a disagreement. You’ll claim your version is the truth always.

I don’t think it’s odd she hasn’t mentioned a sister before considering her tiktok is entirely about disability and this Airbnb saga and not her day to day life and family. I have a tiktok and anyone watching my videos would have no clue how many siblings I have as I’ve no need to mention them.
I so want to give this woman the benefit of the doubt

She's talked about her Huntington's diagnoses on her tiktok and said she doesn't know her family and that's why she didn't know she might have it before getting diagnosed.

I'm saying that doesn't make much sense if she's now saying she has a sister that she does in fact know about (unless she's claiming she just found out about this sister right now).

Also she slips up (or purposely says wrong) saying she's older than the sister when it's clear from the articles that the missing woman is the same age as Carrie now (the articles are from over 10 years ago). The missing article even mentions that she's suspected to have gone to Ireland 10 years ago. That's how long Carrie has said she's lived in Ireland too. This should raise alarm bells.

 

[Travel28]

The air bnb listing has now disappeared too.

Ancestry stuff

Sorry if this is a bit jumbled, had to work backwards.

- Samantha Jade Cookes, mother's maiden name Williams, birth registered in Gloucester December 1988, could mean November birthday to match her company records. A cousin and someone who apparently knew her growing up (will call him Tiktok John) say this is her, birthday November 1988.
- Samantha Cookes is in Gloucester until 2008, when she shows up in York University halls. The Samantha Cookes who pulled the surrogacy scam dropped out of York Uni in her first year, 2008. I do believe the part about her losing her baby as evidence must have been submitted in her court case. There is, unsurprisingly, no public record of her after 2008.
- Cousin says she's the one that went missing 2013 and ended up in Ireland.
- The only other Cookes with mother's maiden Williams in Gloucester is indeed a younger brother. I'll not name him for privacy reasons, he's nothing to do with this. No sisters. This is what her cousin and Tiktok John say.
- Tiktok John says her dad's name was Les and he died a few years ago. There is indeed a record for a Leslie Cookes in Gloucester, about the right age, died 2016. His middle name is the same as the possible little brother but it is a very common one. I found his brother's name and an obituary names all the people I came across on my Facebook travels.
- Leslie Cookes married a Williams in 1987. As above, had Samantha in 1988 and a younger brother.
- Leslie Cookes married a Smith in 1970. They had two sons and I've found them both via the cousin's Facebook. These would be the two older half brothers people are giving the cousin shit about in tiktok comments - she originally said Samantha only had a younger brother as the half brothers are older and never lived with her. Ancestry puts them as teenagers when Samantha was born so this seems legit to me.
- There is no Carrie Cookes at all. Anywhere. There were a few Carolines born in the 1800s.
- The only Carrie Williams in Gloucester had a different mother, was born August 1983 and death registered the same quarter.
- There's one Carrie Williams with mother's maiden name Williams born in Shropshire but she's too young and I can't link her to any of the rest of them. It's quite a common name in Wales and along the English side of the border.

It's 100% all the same person and hopefully her family can be left out of it now.

This is very thorough. Thank you!

 

[Insomiaflamingo]

New forest Sara is still defending ‘Carrie’ and having a go at someone who posted about Samantha in the first place. She’s worried Carrie will commit suicide as this witch hunt has driven her off social media. There’s nearly 200 comments defending Carrie

I wonder whether we’ll see this so-called article today.

There’s an account on TikTok that is making out they know her and is directing some reasonably threatening videos to her about exposing her, but they’ve yet to actually provide any new information or anything that really proves a connection.

I remember when the awful accident happened recently with the boy who fell from a ride to his death, a girl was all over social media and the actual media claiming to be his cousin. People believed it until the family came forward and said they had no idea who she was!

 

[titan22]

Glad she’s being checked on and I truly hope she’s ok whatever the truth is.
Some people need to realise she put herself and her story online & did it all publicly obviously people will talk, have questions and form their own opinions.

 

[sweetfigs]

I preferred the RTÉ podcast The Real Carrie Jade. It went into more detail and felt more professionally made to me.

 

[duggee_hug]

Basically what I was trying to say was her parents not having it doesn't really mean anything

Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought she said she inherited Huntingtons from one of her parents?

Unsuprisingly there are people not agreeing with New Found Sara, and she’s trying to argue with them instead talking like an adult. Shutting down any comment that says she could be wrong, there is no room for discussion with that woman, it’s her way or the highway. For example apparently the reason why people haven’t got their items is because it’s a ‘4-6 week delivery’ however delivery timescales aren’t mentioned on the 1820things website except to say shipping is ‘as soon as possible.’ ‍

 

[thepantsqueen]

Ancestry stuff

Sorry if this is a bit jumbled, had to work backwards.

- Samantha Jade Cookes, mother's maiden name Williams, birth registered in Gloucester December 1988, could mean November birthday to match her company records. A cousin and someone who apparently knew her growing up (will call him Tiktok John) say this is her, birthday November 1988.
- Samantha Cookes is in Gloucester until 2008, when she shows up in York University halls. The Samantha Cookes who pulled the surrogacy scam dropped out of York Uni in her first year, 2008. I do believe the part about her losing her baby as evidence must have been submitted in her court case. There is, unsurprisingly, no public record of her after 2008.
- Cousin says she's the one that went missing 2013 and ended up in Ireland.
- The only other Cookes with mother's maiden Williams in Gloucester is indeed a younger brother. I'll not name him for privacy reasons, he's nothing to do with this. No sisters. This is what her cousin and Tiktok John say.
- Tiktok John says her dad's name was Les and he died a few years ago. There is indeed a record for a Leslie Cookes in Gloucester, about the right age, died 2016. His middle name is the same as the possible little brother but it is a very common one. I found his brother's name and an obituary names all the people I came across on my Facebook travels.
- Leslie Cookes married a Williams in 1987. As above, had Samantha in 1988 and a younger brother.
- Leslie Cookes married a Smith in 1970. They had two sons and I've found them both via the cousin's Facebook. These would be the two older half brothers people are giving the cousin shit about in tiktok comments - she originally said Samantha only had a younger brother as the half brothers are older and never lived with her. Ancestry puts them as teenagers when Samantha was born so this seems legit to me.
- There is no Carrie Cookes at all. Anywhere. There were a few Carolines born in the 1800s.
- The only Carrie Williams in Gloucester had a different mother, was born August 1983 and death registered the same quarter.
- There's one Carrie Williams with mother's maiden name Williams born in Shropshire but she's too young and I can't link her to any of the rest of them. It's quite a common name in Wales and along the English side of the border.

It's 100% all the same person and hopefully her family can be left out of it now.

Wow thank you so much for doing this!

This entire saga is bewildering to me. I'm really surprised at the amount of tiktokers I respect being naive and defending this person - personally I would just be quiet and not say anything

I'm glad people on this thread are as suspicious as everyone has taken that statement and has basically said she's not lying but it arose more red flags for me than anything - what sister????

I do hate the thought of a witch hunt against an innocent person but I don't necessarily think it is. I think there's no smoke without fire! People have questions and if she's innocent she could just make a video and laugh it off. The entire debacle of shutting down all of her profiles makes it look far far far worse.

 

[Deeznutslol]

I think shes hoping the threat of legal action will make everyone delete stuff and stop discussing it a few have deleted their videos since the statements been released so its working clearly

Absolutely, it’s a shame because this statement is obviously a load of shite bc of her original claim that she was adopted.

 

[LunaAzul]

The algorithm for TikTok is on point. Just opened the app and the first video is from three days ago of someone who read out the statement and says shame on everyone who disbelieved her. The bar is very bloody low if someone putting out a statement means they must be believed.

 

[L1fe0nM@rs]

I'm generally a good judge of character and my gut instinct is usually accurate. I'm going to set my stall out that Olivia IS the first-born daughter, abandoned in the worst way - Fortunate to have a loving family in place of a woman only focused on herself, deeply wounded by Carrantha's behaviour, and now on the receiving end of some frankly silly spiteful behaviour from a few adults who need to take a breath!

Too many drama-llamas and not enough compassion

That’s pretty much where I am. I wouldn’t stand up in court and say it obviously, but at the moment it’s the kind of explanation that makes the most sense to me, would also account for some of the other attention seeking / scams of the past, including trying to be near small children working as an au pair - and we have seen the notes there (assuming they are genuine)

 

[Insomiaflamingo]

Might be a silly question.. But what are the lobby groups people keep talking about?

Lobby grouos are things like the ones who have managed to pay people to stand outside uk hospitals to protest abortions. Sadly lobby groups in America managed to get powerful enough to make abortions illegal. It sounded insane but to me lobby groups being powerful enough to ban access to safe abortion in America sounds insane too yet where we are!