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I'm not Putin

I'm not Putin

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I used to love newforestsara but the way shes done videos against maz and primalempress just being so dam rude theres no need to do rude video responses if you dont agree with them fine but god she just came off as a right cow in them videos
 
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I feel this is becoming about the wrong things. The scam, people definitely need to know about. And I think that probably does include the truth about the HD diagnosis.

But this other stuff is very personal and about a real human being. While knowing this stuff provides context (if true), it’s not an excuse and won’t bring anyone the resolution they’re hoping for.

There is such a fine line between knowing enough for those who have given her money needing closure and it turning into soap opera drama. Human curiosity is powerful and I can’t blame anyone for wanting to know the whole story. But it’s veering into just for entertainment rather than the information people are ‘owed’

If anyone does choose to commission the article, it’s going to have to go through its own due diligence at that point. Regarding previous articles, all I can assume is no one thought to question that someone would lie about having HD.
 
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femmegirly

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Olivia has deleted all her tiktoks. I don’t know what to believe anymore! Olivia needs to be upfront and put all speculation to bed, or get off tiktok and heal from whatever she has been through. I have a lot of compassion for her. She needs a hug and a real-life qualified person to talk to.
 
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Tabitha D

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Squittel said:
Yeah, there would have to be some really dancing language to be able to write an article that won’t land you in the shit. A lot of “allegedly” and “a relative who didn’t want to be named” etc. With all of that, the article could easily just come across as speculation. The [possible] extent of the lies will be very hard to prove beyond doubt.

The only way to create a credible article would be if she’s really managed to map out this woman’s life, with photos, an interview with someone like her mother, and evidence of other scams and/or munchie tendencies.

And while I personally no longer find most of Carrie’s story plausible, it is possible that that her being this Samantha doesn’t mean that she is a scammer today. And an expose on someone who is actually terminally ill would not make anyone look good.
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I do think it has potential for an article if it’s widened a bit into a more general “don’t trust people on the internet” type theme - all those scammers on social media etc. or influencers withdraw begging bowl out. They could phrase it as there being some questions around whether this person is who they say they are, without having to draw a solid conclusion.
 
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polarbearninja

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I really think Olivia is just a troll enjoying the mild attention they are getting. I think people are putting far too much stock in what they're saying, especially that now we know all the photos/images of them are stolen from a real person.

If it is anyone in any way related to Samantha it's Samantha herself because she is obsessed with deceiving people.. but I doubt that's the case either.

That article is taking so long to come, but also no one else other than Katherine Denkinson has said they were looking into it for an article. I don't think journalists want to touch the story. Samantha was smart to make her whole thing be about disability. I don't see us seeing any more come out of this any time soon (if at all).
 
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She-Ra2000

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I smell 💩 with this statement.

So she says she was adopted and that’s the reason her Huntingstons went unnoticed as she didn’t know anything about her real family, so was the sister adopted too? 🤔
 
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Ashila

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If all of this is true (she is a scammer) there might be some police/legal involvement already. I’ve seen some tiktoks of people who purchased items from her website. She has a Christmas section where a ‘price match’ is offered i.e. spend €250 and her company matches it. So you end up with €500 worth of product. As far as I know no-one has received their items.

The guests who stayed with her were active on air b&b. I think their profile was from 2015. It’s not too much of a stretch to speculate how much harassment they could have received. If all this is true they have a good case for slander.
 
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AsHagrid

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Haven't been able to keep up with everything, but was that journalist able to release her article on Carrie?

Also, does Maz rub anyone else the wrong way?
 
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Travel28

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polarbearninja said:
What we do know for a fact is that does have an AirBnB and it does have a bad review and response from her. But from reading the review and her response it's completely different to how she described it on TikTok. This to me means she's at least capable of lying/highly exaggerating.

It's certainly possible she has a sister/twin but very odd she never mentioned them before. She's claimed she didn't know she could have Huntington's because she was adopted. She may have met her sister since then, but wouldn't she mention she has a sister and if that sister also has Huntingtons? Also she says she is older and larger than her sister but the articles about the "sister" are from over 10 years ago so if course she could still be the same person but older/larger.

People claiming to know her have said things but they absolutely could be lying about it so I won't take those as fact.

What I do feel is true is that the AirBnB lawsuit was a lie because it seemed very far fetched in the first place (and we can see the actual reviews on her account). If she can lie about that it's plausible she's lying about more.
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She also said that if in her twenties she went through a horrible bereavement.

IF none of this is true, then I don’t think it was ever about scamming people out of money, it was in my opinion more for the attention, sympathy, admiration etc. I don’t think it would have progressed to a Go Fund Me etc.
 
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polarbearninja

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It was definitely all going to come out eventually because the lies got more and more far fetched. This is what makes me think she's not a smart con artist who was slowly building up to a Go Fund me.

I think she's a compulsive liar who couldn't help herself with all the attention and possibly has something like Munchausen's. Whether she has Huntington's or not I don't know for sure.

It does seem like the Air BnB thing was a lie that started from a bad review that she invented a story around (if you look at her AirBnB listing and see the review and her response)
 
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Justacatindisguise

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So I've been back on Ancestry cause I'm a nosy bitch and Olivia Jade Williams' mother's maiden name is Love. Thought I'd discounted that one but couldn't remember why lol. There's an Olivia Bethany, mother's maiden name Williams, also registered in Shropshire in May 2004 though. Still can't confirm without paying for birth certificates but honestly this would be a huge amount of effort for some random troll to go to.
 
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Ruth1983

Ruth1983

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Oh dear lord my life is so boring in comparison to anyone on TikTok!
today I woke up- went for a 5k run
Stripped and washed bedsheets
Chilled with my son watching some serial killer thing (son is 17!)
Cooked dinner
Now chilling with my cat

please comment and like down below if you are all willing to send me gifts!!!!
 
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duggee_hug

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Only time will tell if this journalist has anything worthy to write. I have a feeling the truth is going to come out and it’ll be bigger than Tattle and Reddit.
 
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Squittel

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I wonder whether we’ll see this so-called article today.

There’s an account on TikTok that is making out they know her and is directing some reasonably threatening videos to her about exposing her, but they’ve yet to actually provide any new information or anything that really proves a connection.
 
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