Theresa May to stand down as Prime Minister on June 7

[MunkyMagic]

I think a lot of people accidentally assume that not wanting immigration is a race issue. Because it makes sense, right? It is an automatic and reasonable conclusion on the face of it.

What people have to understand is that swathes of the country outside of cities and large towns HAVE been damaged from EU membership and immigration (because of the lack of financial support, investment and strain on public services), in spite of being told it’s good for the economy etc. It may be good for the country as a whole, but these towns and areas (see Boston in Lincolnshire, Goole in Humberside as a couple of examples) have been husked out due to piss poor planning for a population boom and continuous lack of investment and neglect for years - from the EU and nationally - in spite of their numbers swelling tremendously. It’s no coincidence that these places have a strong leave percentage. The inhabitants have seen a standard of living drop as a direct result of the EU.

 

[Yel]

May saying she did her best is bollocks.

I think she did what she thought was best, but it was a disaster. She carried on way to long even when it was clear it would never work.

I’m starting to think Prime Ministers only leave when they convinced the person after them will be worse. The David Cameron years seem like luxury compared to Mays time in power but at the time they made Browns tenure look amazing

Blair, brown and Cameron are the ones to blame for the situation we're in at the moment. Sure Theresa fucked it up, but she didn't make the whole mess - that was decades in the making. From blair and brown and their mistakes over the EU enlargement to then using the EU as a scapegoat for everything.

 

[fireflies]

I seen some bat tit stuff on Facebook sometimes the left can be as nasty as the right but their excuse they care and are passionate about injustice.
Why can't people separate the politics of a person to her speech.
If you dislike her policies or support different party fair enough but to see her so emotional I felt sympathy.
If we screw up in work and eventually leave it's not broadcast to entire nation.
She was bit doomed from the start.
I don't think she was power hungry I felt she was calm safe pair of hands with a sense of duty she certainly dident do anything to antagonize Europe like farage/Boris do that won't help the negotiations.
A change of leader won't mean we get a better deal.
Public and even members of parliament more worryingly don't understand that no deal is possibility as this is 1 consequence of envoking article 50.

What will happen the rest if may all we will talk about is may and speculate who's running for leader
June be dominated by leadership elections.
None of the parties will talk to each other and seems labour talks have broken down
UKIP will thankfully become less credible but brexit party will fill the gap.
Because mep elections use proportional representation voting for seats it's quite likely that brexit party will win a few seats for sure.
So Europe's frustrated with Nigel farrage.
They will end up with 5 of him causing bad feeling in European parliament making negotiating with Europe tricker.
If brexit party gain lots of seats it's a protest vote caused by lots main stream parties ie lib dems / change UK and parts of labour wanting to disregard the results of the referendum.
The leave remain is complex as it's mix of parties on both sides it's not as simple as red v blue.
The ones who left for change UK are vulnerable to lose their seats as people vote for party and their manifesto at general elections and in some cases they part of constituency that voted leave and they still want to remain.
July August they will all go on their holidays.
September will be mass panic as withdrawal date is set for 31st October clock ticking to deal or no deal.
Only the EU can extend that deadline.

Labour are not clear on their policy they split on the issue.
By all accounts corbyns not a lover of Europe he sat in the fence during referendum.
Lots labour don't want brexit at any costs

If we had another election no idea who I vote for.
Tories allowing their party membership to vote is interesting.
I expect it be another privately educated man who has played the long game.
I hate the way the media have portrayed may as well women.
Would love love to see another woman stand but doubtful they win.

 

[MunkyMagic]

There's a.great youtube channel called "middle ground" that gets people on different sides of controversial issues to sit down and talk to each other in a non judgemental non accusatory manner. It can get heated but it always ends well. I'm sure that's sometimes down to the editing, but the objective is so important I think. It's American though and I really think someone should make one with people who live.in the UK on our own issues. We have the same horribly divided society here and there's something cathartic about just watching these all too familiar topics be discussed in that way.

Have you heard of Carl Benjamin? The horrible little toad who made a very off ‘joke’ about raping Labour MP Jess Phillips and is standing as a UKIP MEP? Well I had a look at his YT channel Sargon of Akkad and in spite of being a bit of an hole he has some great debates on there from his tour promoting UKIP. One in particular was with a friend of Jess’ who tackled him about the ‘joke’ direct in a very dignified way

Labour are not clear on their policy they split on the issue.
By all accounts corbyns not a lover of Europe he sat in the fence during referendum.
Lots labour don't want brexit at any costs

Corbyn is at heart a hardened Brexiteer but he doesn’t want to damage the ground Labour can make from appealing to far left “college socialists”.

He would be a disasterous PM in my opinion.

Blair, brown and Cameron are the ones to blame for the situation we're in at the moment. Sure Theresa fucked it up, but she didn't make the whole mess - that was decades in the making. From blair and brown and their mistakes over the EU enlargement to then using the EU as a scapegoat for everything.

A-men to that

 

[Janey1]

Oh I do agree that May cleaned up most of the mess from Blair and Brown, but I just feel that she could have done more when she was in power. I definitely feel she wasn't very confident, you can see in her body language she is verh shifty and awkward. I feel like she doesn't have alot of backbone. Blair and Brown tit on us and then left power.

 

[GossWhore]

What a joke. First David Cameron and now her.

Tbh David royally screwed her over and I don't even like TM at all

 

[Mayday]

Tbh David royally screwed her over and I don't even like TM at all

Yeah this is true, I think he screwed us all over really and no one wanted to take on his job as they knew they'd be hated, and have to pick up his pieces. Its just a joke how he tried to pull the 'vote for me for a strong and stable government!' then buggered off.

 

[Yel]

Tbh David royally screwed her over and I don't even like TM at all

I really don't like TM. But out of Blair, brown and Cameron I think she's the best pm

 

[GossWhore]

I really don't like TM. But out of Blair, brown and Cameron I think she's the best pm [emoji1745][emoji38]

Think it says a lot about our political landscape over the last 10+ year

Tbh you could see the voter apathy when FPTP two party horse was shaken to it's core and never recovered.

 

[MunkyMagic]

Here we go... rise of the populists. EU is going to hell in a hand basket.