ThePhotoDept Chris Sturm

New to Tattle Life? Click "Order Thread by Most Liked Posts" button below to get an idea of what the site is about:
I HATE how antivaxxers jump on everyone who got the vaccine and then happens to get cancer, have a heart attack or stroke, just anything - and they gleefully call them idiots for falling for the deep state or whatever their demented minds conjures up. I'm gonna start again with him and try to be less annoyed. It will help a LOT if I don't watch his videos! I think he's one of those people (hello Tiffany!) who like to make things up to sound a certain way but never really want to give you the whole unvarnished truth. Sometimes I think they don't even know what the truth is because they live in a confabulation... well, I was gonna start again. I'm upset with myself that I let him bother me so much initially.

Anyway, I looked it up and Wisconsin is one of the bonehead states that refused to expand Medicaid, even with the federal gov't picking up 100% of the cost! My state has lost a few rural hospitals that went under because of so many unpaid bills (because they don't want any freeloading minorities or some such crackpot reasoning - well, lack thereof). I lose a lot of sleep worrying about the vitriol in our polarized country but I need to let that go too.

Boring part so you can skip: They invented Obamacare thinking that everybody would get Medicaid (free) who didn't qualify by their income to get government help on the premium. So there's a bizarre lower cut off. Like if you make, say, $25,000 a year, the govt will pay 95% of your Obamacare premium for you. BUT if you make less than that, the gov't will pay ZERO of your premium for you (because they planned for you to get Medicaid which is free).

But then our rightwing Supreme Court threw out the requirement that states provide Medicaid up to the lower limit ($25k or whatever) [never mind that it would have been free!!!] -- so those very poor people are left with having to pay the huge premium with no help whatsoever!! And it's often $600 a month for one person - something like that. AND the Republicans won't let Congress close that loophole so a whole lot of very poor people have no healthcare coverage whatsoever! This is true for 10 states, almost all in the Deep South (because of rightwing/antivax stupidity) but Wisconsin is the midwestern outlier! The other 2 non-southern states are Wyoming (libertarian cowboys) and Kansas (almost southern and a rightwing stronghold).

Wherre's my ativan?!?!?

ETA: I wrote all that before I saw AlwaysScience's great post so sorry if it sounds like I ignored her.
---


Wow - that's shocking! I didn't think you even had to count a girlfriend's income (only your actual spouse).

Anyway, I live in Mississippi - and would you believe that no matter how poor you are, even ZERO income, you cannot get Medicaid - UNLESS you are under the age of 18 or you have children in your household under 18 that you are the primary caretaker of. Oh and one other exception: pregnant women.

I doubt any other state is as cruel as that. And bear in mind, by some measure, we're the poorest state in the union, 39% African American (and there's your reason, ladies and gents). I'm so disgusted with these people, my people I guess, but I don't think there's a remedy. I mean, I could move, but I have a lot of family and friends and I'm not poor. Miserable maybe, but not poor.
---
Oh tit - I wasn't gonna do this, but yet another thing about Chris' story doesn't make sense to me:

"He doesn't know when they will move to CA but he'll be treated at UCLA."

Why stay and e-beg for 100s of thousands of dollars when he could just go ahead and move, stay with his dad, and get this wonderful Stanford treatment on California's Medicaid? when he doesn't qualify for Wisconsin's?

And he says he doesn't qualify because he lives with his girlfriend?? Does that mean that every person in his state who has any kind of roommate would have to count their roommate's income (and there not qualify for Medicaid)?

Damn, man, MOVE and visit her occasionally. It's your LIFE we're talking about.

OR - and this is very simple - say that you broke up with her and she's not your girlfriend any more but you're simply "roommates" -- or rent a frickin' room from someone and have that separate address and the medical expenses would outweigh the cost of that room many times over!!!

But no.... Instead of doing something logical, he wants people to dig into their savings and send him money to save him. Ughhhh. Someone tell me to go away. I've managed to quit watching him, but here I am, getting worked up, just reading about his flakey grifty decision making.
Very well said - all of it. I live in Texas - another state controlled by Republicans that refuses to expand Medicaid. Tens of thousands of poor people here unable to get medical care other than in hospital emergency rooms or the county hospital - IF their county has a hospital. Imagine being poor and not having a car, and having to take buses to get to a county hospital for chemotherapy. A lot of poor people just give up and die from untreated medical problems.

Another problem is my property taxes are crazy high, in part because I’m paying to support my county hospital that treats poor people. If Medicaid was expanded the county hospital would not need as much money from homeowners’ property taxes because it would get money from Medicaid.

Oh Chris never said why he couldn’t get insurance from the state of Wisconsin Medicaid - he didn’t even use the word Medicaid. I looked it up online. Your household income is the determining factor in qualifying for Medicaid in Wisvonsin.

I have mixed feelings about Chris using GoFundMe donations to pay for his medical care. I hate that he refused to buy medical insurance under the ACA before he got diagnosed with cancer. Former Olympic gymnast Mary Lou Retton did the same thing. But I guess I prefer he get the money from people who are willing to donate it rather than taxpayers having to pay for it.

Re Retton: A reporter later asked her why she didn’t have medical insurance when she was hospitalized and she lied - she claimed she could not have afforded it due to pre existing conditions. Under the ACA medical insurance companies cannot charge you more based on preexisting conditions. Heck, they don’t even know about your preexisting conditions because when you go online and fill out the form there is no question about your medical history,
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3
That's fascinating! I don't think of my property taxes as high - but houses are cheap here. I guess there's a silver lining to living in this crap state - nobody else wants to live here so houses are very cheap lol. I have a detached 2500 sq foot suburban brick type house on a half-acre lot that's assessed at about $250k but the taxes are just under $2000/year. (actually half that because I'm over 65) Sorry for the tmi. I just keep hearing about sky-high tax/insurance costs and wonder how it is elsewhere.

I get your point about Chris (and Mary Lou) not being a burden on taxpayers because they've decided to be beggars instead. Ha ha!! So I shouldn't be so annoyed with Chris I guess. He's got the begging thing down to a science. I know, he could sell online seminars in how to bilk millions from sweet little old ladies who are happy to give you half their pensions!

If you're reading here, Chris (and I wouldn't be surprised - if he's a narcissist like our Tiff, how could he resist??) Anyway That's a bit of financial advice for ya.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3
Justin Lee has been sending them information and photos of places to rent. There was no mention of living with his father. I don't think his father lives in Los Angeles.
After posting some of the antivax comments on IG stories, he did say it didn't bother him much because it drives traffic to his YT so he makes more money.
It sounds to me that he isn't expecting many too side effects from his upcoming treatments so they are hoping it's up and running by Dec.

As a homeowner my property taxes in Hawaii are quite low for the value of the home. One of the reasons is because our property taxes don't fund schools. The state legislature funds the DOE from state taxes.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 4
I forgot to add that he said he has 8 spots in his brain. I don’t remember if he said that before.
 
  • Like
  • Heart
Reactions: 4
We do have a lot of “working poor” people in the US. They don’t make enough to pay for housing, utilities, food and medical care but they are not poor enough to qualify for government programs. A lot of USpoliticians say that people on government programs should work, but there is no government paid childcare so those people have a safe place to leave their kids when they go to work. It’s a horrible system.
---

Thanks for this information. In Wisconsin since he lives with his girlfriend her income prevents him from qualifying for Wisconsin Medicaid. The monthly income cutoff there is $1,700.

Im guessing they will move in with his dad when they move to California. Since they are not married her income won’t count. And Medi-Cal, California Medicaid, no longer considers assets - just income.

I doubt he will work full time in California because of the time he will need for cancer treatment and the side effects.

In 2023 the ACA Open Enrollment period started on November 1 and enrollment could be effective as early as January 1, 2024. If it’s the same for the next open enrollment period, he needs the GoFundMe money for now until when he gets on Medi-Cal.

I assume he has looked into which UCLA oncologists accept Medi-Cal. When he was diagnosed with cancer he evidently thought he could buy medical insurance through the ACA whenever he wanted to and then found that no one has to sell him insurance after the end of the open enrollment period, unless he meets certain criteria. Hopefully he now understands the necessity of learning how insurance works.
Totally agree. The working poor are often screwed every which way to Sunday. That's not the case with the disabled child's family. They live in a very large home and have 2 cars that cost way over $100k each just as fun cars and then a fancy SUV the mom drives. Dad is a used car manager at a big dealership. They even have a cabin in the woods. Kinda seems like they are taking advantage of the system.

Not a big fan of Chris's friend Jason Lee but at least he finally quit Scientology.

I still think Chris thinks this cancer isn't going to be a big deal. I hope he is correct and it's not another Jenny Apple outcome.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3
Oh dear - 8 spots on the brain sounds terrible! Hope it works out ok for him.

Stanford's great but it's a 40 minute drive from San Francisco -- from Los Angeles, it's almost a six hour drive.

I'm sure it's rated pretty high - but from what I can find, not as high as UCLA Medical Center in Los Angeles, which 'verywell health' ranks as the 5th best cancer center in the US (after MD Anderson, Sloan Kettering, Mayo, and Dana Farber - City of Hope is #7). But it probably depends a lot on the type of cancer and which specialist you end up with.

I'm such a chatterbox today - sorry about that. This particular man and his situation has been so triggering for me - not sure why.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 4
Oh dear - 8 spots on the brain sounds terrible! Hope it works out ok for him.

Stanford's great but it's a 40 minute drive from San Francisco -- from Los Angeles, it's almost a six hour drive.

I'm sure it's rated pretty high - but from what I can find, not as high as UCLA Medical Center in Los Angeles, which 'verywell health' ranks as the 5th best cancer center in the US (after MD Anderson, Sloan Kettering, Mayo, and Dana Farber - City of Hope is #7). But it probably depends a lot on the type of cancer and which specialist you end up with.

I'm such a chatterbox today - sorry about that. This particular man and his situation has been so triggering for me - not sure why.
I think a lot of us on Tattle Life are in the same situation - we have felt triggered by some of the cancer YouTubers and we come here to share our mixed feelings and see if anyone else has similar feelings and concerns.

My personal ethical beliefs include that community is important - that we should all be aware of our positions in our communities and try to be supportive of others, and understanding of the challenges of others. For example, I would never skip my annual flu shot because I feel a responsibility to do this easy, cheap thing to reduce the chance that I get influenza and then transmit it to someone in my community who is medically vulnerable. I have a neighbor and friend who is 80 and who has been through two different types of cancer over the last 15 years.

So many people have compromised immune systems due to cancer treatment, medications they must take for things like ulcerative colitis or organ transplants, and diseases. There are a lot of people with disabilities/illnesses that are not obvious.

A woman I was following online died recently. She had cholangiocarcinoma but the type of chemo she had never made her hair fall out so she looked remarkably normal until the last few weeks of her life. My online life has taught me a lot about cancer and disabilities.
 
  • Heart
  • Like
Reactions: 4
Oh dear - 8 spots on the brain sounds terrible! Hope it works out ok for him.

Stanford's great but it's a 40 minute drive from San Francisco -- from Los Angeles, it's almost a six hour drive.

I'm sure it's rated pretty high - but from what I can find, not as high as UCLA Medical Center in Los Angeles, which 'verywell health' ranks as the 5th best cancer center in the US (after MD Anderson, Sloan Kettering, Mayo, and Dana Farber - City of Hope is #7). But it probably depends a lot on the type of cancer and which specialist you end up with.

I'm such a chatterbox today - sorry about that. This particular man and his situation has been so triggering for me - not sure why.
He's going to be treated at UCLA. The camera store is in LA so I imagine that's where they will live. He has many ideas about the film developing lab. He may have negative thoughts but he seems to be keeping them to himself and projecting a very upbeat attitude about his future.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 4
A woman I was following online died recently. She had cholangiocarcinoma but the type of chemo she had never made her hair fall out so she looked remarkably normal until the last few weeks of her life. My online life has taught me a lot about cancer and disabilities.
I know what you mean about learning so much from people dealing with difficult and even tragic situations. My adult son has serious disabilities and lives at home still, and no therapy could do for me what the perspective does that I get from following people facing immense challenges. It isn't really 'misery loves company' but the chance to learn from others how to face chronic fear and sorrow. It's not something you learn from school but it's such a common human condition - life is so fragile, for so many of us. Well, just about all of us, eventually.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 5
I noticed this evening that the views on the last few videos have declined significantly. His initial, "I have cancer" video view count is roughly 170,000 while the latest two videos are at 5k and 7.5k respectively. His GFM collected almost $50k in less than 2 weeks, even it has seen a major decrease in donations. In no way am I saying $56k is little, I just mean the momentum has stalled.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 4
I think Christopher Sturm has more intelligent followers than TiffanyThinks. A number of them have expressed concern about him driving, and about him driving and recording video at the same time.

Also, one of them looked up survival statistics for people with non small cell lung cancer with EGFR mutation and commented about it, with a link. Chris Sturm hasn’t yet said anything about survival info for metastatic NSCLC in his YouTube videos other than a vague comment about feeling more optimistic after getting information on his gene mutation.

Can’t imagine one of the TiffanyThinks followers looking online at medical journal articles to see recent survival statistics for colorectal cancer.

Well, now that I think about it, I guess Tiffany might have had followers in the past who did bring up survival information, but she or someone in her family deleted those comments.
Tiffany will out live you, me and Chris and Amma combined!!! Tiffany is pulling everyone's middle leg.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 4
I noticed this evening that the views on the last few videos have declined significantly. His initial, "I have cancer" video view count is roughly 170,000 while the latest two videos are at 5k and 7.5k respectively. His GFM collected almost $50k in less than 2 weeks, even it has seen a major decrease in donations. In no way am I saying $56k is little, I just mean the momentum has stalled.
I would like to think that people are starting to notice and be concerned about how Chris Sturm seems to limit the information he shares to generate sympathy, but it might just be that the “death watchers” have moved on since he shared that he got good news about his genetic mutation.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 5
A sensible update on Instagram - not a single e-beg! No driving while looking at the camera, no baby feeding - he's turning into a normie! (I hope) He's talking about Tagrisso, which is the drug Ivory's Diary was on. Maybe Jenny Apple? Probably loads of lung cancer patients.

"Currently, I am working on getting my insurance/medicare sorted out so I don’t have to pay $20k a month, and luckily this first 30 day supply was made possible through the pharmacy repository, which is basically donated medication. A miracle. This is step one in a two pronged attack and I couldn’t be more excited to start. Here we go"
 
  • Like
Reactions: 5
He posted today on IG that he has started on a pill, Tagrisso (step 1 in a 2 pronged attack). It costs $20,000 a month but his first month is free due to a donation at the pharmacy. It sounds like he wasn't able to get ACA insurance as someone posted earlier because he was out of the sign up period because he is hoping to get insurance straightened out so he won't have to pay that amount every month.
---
He posted today on IG that he has started on a pill, Tagrisso (step 1 in a 2 pronged attack). It costs $20,000 a month but his first month is free due to a donation at the pharmacy. It sounds like he wasn't able to get ACA insurance as someone posted earlier because he was out of the sign up period because he is hoping to get insurance straightened out so he won't have to pay that amount every month.
We posted at the same time!
 
  • Like
Reactions: 6
Oops - but I was so relieved to see a reasonable post, though I'm confused about the Medicare reference. I found this on the gov't site:

"If you’re getting Social Security disability benefits, you’ll get Medicare automatically after getting disability benefits for 24 months. If you have ALS (also called Lou Gehrig’s disease) you’ll get Medicare automatically as soon as you start getting disability benefits."

I can't find anything that says you can get Medicare automatically if you have cancer - so I think it's just more confusion from Chris. Maybe 'he' doesn't even understand and some social worker is dealing with the details and he just has a vague idea of what's going on.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: 4
Oops - but I was so relieved to see a reasonable post, though I'm confused about the Medicare reference. I found this on the gov't site:

"If you’re getting Social Security disability benefits, you’ll get Medicare automatically after getting disability benefits for 24 months. If you have ALS (also called Lou Gehrig’s disease) you’ll get Medicare automatically as soon as you start getting disability benefits."

I can't find anything that says you can get Medicare automatically if you have cancer - so I think it's just more confusion from Chris. Maybe 'he' doesn't even understand and some social worker is dealing with the details and he just has a vague idea of what's going on.
Maybe he is confusing Medicare with Medicaid.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 5
I have no idea what he is talking about re Medicare/Medicaid. In that state you can’t get Medicare unless your monthly household income is under about $1,700/month according to the table I looked at. I’m certain his girlfriend makes more than that as a nurse. Since he doesn’t seem to be working right now I guess he could rent a cheap apartment and claim to live there but that would be Medicare fraud. Getting Medicaid due to disability would take months because he would have to prove that he is disabled.

The takeaway here is that in the US if you don’t have medical insurance through an employer, you better buy insurance under the ACA during an annual open enrollment period.

A lot of Americans file bankruptcy due to medical bills they can’t pay even though they do have insurance. A 20% copay on hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical bills due to ICU care or cancer treatment is more than a lot of people can afford.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 5
Tagrisso, the medication Chris is going to start is about $18,000 per month but it also is taken every month for the rest of the cancer patient’s life.

The FDA approved Tagrisso in February - just 2 months ago and studies show that when combined with chemotherapy it does increase the median number of months patients diagnosed with metastatic non small cell lung cancer live.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 5