A needle and thread have made a huge difference to my clothing budget over the years. Enough of a difference that I now have more than one needle and more than one colour of threadAgree we need to consume less, buy more second hand etc but as someone with a low income all our clothes are fast fashion but worn for a long time. I spend less than £200 on clothes a year
The thing is, there are definitely people who can afford to shop for higher priced clothes but go to Primark instead. I think it's fine to go to Primark and charity shops if they can't afford to buy higher quality clothes, but people have to look towards higher quality and stuff that will last. A lot of the time, cheap clothes will last a couple months then become useless, which then means they need replacing.Sustainably/ethically sourced clothing is a minefield and sadly it’s not just a case of more expensive = fair wages for garment workers, safe conditions, and sustainably sourced material.
It can also be a bit of a classist dig as low income families *need* stores like Primark, and it’s not fast fashion to them it’s the only accessible means of clothing they have. The secondary market is fucked - go into most charity shops and it’s either house clearance stuff so inappropriate for anyone under 60 or poor quality “fast fash” brands priced not that dissimilarly from buying brand new, tbh. Just because MC consumers / customers with a disposable income are seeing these outfits as single use, doesn’t mean the people that need these retailers are.
Ultimately it needs an attitude change, people don’t need as much as they’re buying, they don’t need to refresh their wardrobes as often as they are, the industry needs to move away from being trend led, marketing to move away from hyper consumption to styling or accessorising or swapping, like it’s an incredibly complex situation and I don’t think telling ppl to just spend more answers it.
I tend to buy most things second hand and go for things like m&s, next as although they are still fast fashion they are better quality than primary. I'm getting the girls onsies for after swimming lessons and on vinted they are £3 each plus £1.99 postage and on the next website £23/24 each! H&m seem to be good for jeggins for my youngest who's very slim and legs up to her armpitsA needle and thread have made a huge difference to my clothing budget over the years. Enough of a difference that I now have more than one needle and more than one colour of thread
And John LewisPosted this two days go in another thread.Amazon moving into housing.
Amazon’s New ‘Factory Towns’ Will Lift the Working Class
Plentiful new jobs at higher wages in places with cheaper housing sounds like a solution to inequality.www.bloomberg.com
This isn’t fair and is punishing the poorest in society. Amazon have made it highly inaccessible for some people to shop elsewhere, especially low income families living rurally. For example, some states in America where poverty is rife, Amazon will offer low prices to drive out any competition and make it more accessible with deliveries etc. But then will hike up the prices once they’ve driven everyone out.You may not agree.
However there are an awful lot of hypocrites out there.
They'll take to Facebook and Twitter on their Apple products (all active tax avoiders) to protest about tax avoidance.
They'll also do their shopping on Amazon (another tax avoider), be seen drink pricey coffees from Starbucks and Caffè Nero (both tax avoiders).
This is where the hypocrisy lies. You can't bang on about tax avoidance, if you willingly purchase products and services from the companies guilty of it.
I can’t read the article (it’s paywalled) but to me that feels like Amazon doing the same thing to housing that they’ve done with everything else - trying to control a market to get to a point where they can name their price. I live near a town that’s potentially getting a big Amazon warehouse and there’s a lot of genuine concern about what will happen to wages since the town has lost some major employers recently. It doesn’t look like Amazon are offering ‘good’ employment or objectively ’good’ wages, it has the feel of vulture capitalism and Amazon taking advantage of what is already a slightly depressed area.Posted this two days go in another thread.Amazon moving into housing.
Amazon’s New ‘Factory Towns’ Will Lift the Working Class
Plentiful new jobs at higher wages in places with cheaper housing sounds like a solution to inequality.www.bloomberg.com
I agree. The two largest companies on the planet are Blackrock and Vanguard. Blackrock has recently been buying up entire neighbourhoods in america.Not to mention the amount of companies that own or have shares in other companies. You can’t boycott nestle, Coca Cola brands like that cause they own the vast majority of brands you see in the supermarket. You’d have to live off grid to avoid any kind of unethical consumption.
I do agree but I think the issue isn't what we buy but how much of it. Buying sustainably is amazing but if you're buying sustainably in excess then we've still got the same problem as it is still increasing demand, and still means things end up in landfill.The thing is, there are definitely people who can afford to shop for higher priced clothes but go to Primark instead. I think it's fine to go to Primark and charity shops if they can't afford to buy higher quality clothes, but people have to look towards higher quality and stuff that will last. A lot of the time, cheap clothes will last a couple months then become useless, which then means they need replacing.
Most people probably don't even think about going to get shoes repaired, but instead opt to buy brand new ones and throw the damaged ones away. I know people like this and it does bug me that they just throw away £100-150 trainers/shoes, then buy new ones for similar prices.
I mean it’s an incredibly complex issue and I’m not able to comment on what other people can/can’t afford, or more likely what they choose to prioritise financially. I’m a fully sold subscriber to sustainable fashion (and tbh, fashion) but abhor the classism that comes with the emporer’s new clothes wave of green washed sustainability on Instagram, like buffet dresses sewn by property investors’ wives mitigates an environmental crisis not.The thing is, there are definitely people who can afford to shop for higher priced clothes but go to Primark instead. I think it's fine to go to Primark and charity shops if they can't afford to buy higher quality clothes, but people have to look towards higher quality and stuff that will last. A lot of the time, cheap clothes will last a couple months then become useless, which then means they need replacing.
Most people probably don't even think about going to get shoes repaired, but instead opt to buy brand new ones and throw the damaged ones away. I know people like this and it does bug me that they just throw away £100-150 trainers/shoes, then buy new ones for similar prices.
I am willing to trust the motives behind John Lewis undertaking this sort of thing but I can't bring myself to give Amazon the same benefit of the doubt.And John Lewis
John Lewis to build 10,000 homes for rent
A trusted source of up-to-date news for social housing professionals – the only place to get comprehensive coverage of all the big topics.www.insidehousing.co.uk
Could write another essay on this lol but a lot of these new build blocks in London are microcosms of exactly that. I rented in one briefly & I’d say of hundreds of flats less than ten were owner occupiers, it doesn’t make sense to buy them as they’re so poorly constructed and price over inflated & a lot of people that did buy them soon move out as they realise there are serious issues whether it be cladding, noise transfer, over insulation, etc etc (rented my first flat from a bloke who left because of the noise & pollution from a main road and concerns for his kids).These massive organisations already have so much power, if they own all our homes too then we're screwed and I wonder what power that would have over local government too, if housing becomes owned by organisations rather than families.
I have shoes repaired, however I had a paid I wanted repair and it wasn't possible to resole due to how they were made. Companies want you to buy again, its a bit like household item. My mum and dad have the original boiler in their house from the early 1930s. You would never get a modern day boiler lasting that long.The thing is, there are definitely people who can afford to shop for higher priced clothes but go to Primark instead. I think it's fine to go to Primark and charity shops if they can't afford to buy higher quality clothes, but people have to look towards higher quality and stuff that will last. A lot of the time, cheap clothes will last a couple months then become useless, which then means they need replacing.
Most people probably don't even think about going to get shoes repaired, but instead opt to buy brand new ones and throw the damaged ones away. I know people like this and it does bug me that they just throw away £100-150 trainers/shoes, then buy new ones for similar prices.
There's definitely planned obsolescence going on with products, marketing is pushing people to buy new phones every time their contract expires or upgrade ipads upon each release, and they stop doing software support for older versions but realistically some of these computers, phones, ipads could physically last much longer.I have shoes repaired, however I had a paid I wanted repair and it wasn't possible to resole due to how they were made. Companies want you to buy again, its a bit like household item. My mum and dad have the original boiler in their house from the early 1930s. You would never get a modern day boiler lasting that long.
Omg I love this / would love to know what that even looks like?! How cool though!My mum and dad have the original boiler in their house from the early 1930s.
This is absolutely true. My mother in law has a laundry basket (plastic) that she has a photo of my husband, now aged 38 sat in when he was a baby. It's still going strong. I am on my third plastic laundry basket in my adult life, all I do is carry clothes in it! I swear things just aren't made to last anymore.There's definitely planned obsolescence going on with products, marketing is pushing people to buy new phones every time their contract expires or upgrade ipads upon each release, and they stop doing software support for older versions but realistically some of these computers, phones, ipads could physically last much longer.