Eltonjohnsflorist
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Sooooo millionaire mentor didn’t go that well? Stopping it all to concentrate on the sculpted vegan brand next year
Gaslighting people is her only way of communicating.I'm a midwife in Canada and have bought her programs.So incredibly disappointed to see the Covid denial and anti-mask arrogance.I had a brief but enlightening DM convo which I dropped out of because she was stuck on how my messages are worded instead of the content.She wasn't the slightest bit curious or concerned about my feedback.You'd think a business person would be more concerned about how her content is perceived by consumers of her products.I trusted her programs to be evidence based but wouldn't purchase again as she doesn't seem to be able to source accurate health information.On a different tack, how interesting is it that she cares so much about what she puts in her body but has no idea (or seems to care) whether her breast implants are saline or silicone?Silicone implants are well known to cause everything from cancer to autoimmune disease.But hey, your boibs look fab so who cares if they make you sick?!There are also unfavourable long term studies on thread lifts.If anyone is interested, here is our brief and frustrating convo.I was responding to her post on covid having a 99.7% recovery rate.
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Me: The 99.7% is misleading as it doesn’t address long term morbidity. Ask anyone with long Covid or ICU “survivors” if they’d have taken a vaccine if offered. Surviving isn’t always thriving. And the rate you quote is only with the most state of the art, timely treatment. Many survivors in 1st world countries would have died 10 times over had they caught Covid in a developing country. I’m all for informed decision making as you claim to be so please include figures about short and long term morbidity when quoting stats to support your views. You lose credibility with every “spin”. As a healthcare worker who used to be a vaccine hesitant mom, I’m now interested in the white privilege/accidental racism inherent in the anti vax stance. Covid kill fewer white folks, even in developed countries. You have the coin and education to juice, see a naturopath, eat clean and although I know many folks who live the way you do who still got Covid and SUFFERED, we are way less likely to die.
Her: Sorry this triggered you so much. But this message and the anger and judgement behind it, is exactly the problem I was discussing in the story.
Me: No anger, or judgement, actually. Just feedback, given quite respectfully and unemotionally. As a domestic violence and child loss survivor I know a trigger when I feel one and this wasn’t. Labelling it as such and calling me “angry and judgemental” because I chose to share my perspective is disappointing to me. We women should be lifting each other up to share. I respect your confidence and unashamed outspokenness, even if I don’t always agree with you. You certainly don’t have to agree with ME and I’m glad you took the time to read my response. Your audience is subject to your opinions constantly. I wish you could see healthy discourse for what it is.
Her: Perhaps it was just how you wrote it. It definitely didn’t feel like a healthy discourse. You appeared to accuse me of “spin” and told me I was losing credibility. Your tone was very confrontational.
If your intent was a have a healthy and respectful debate, it didn’t come across that way. Just some feedback on your delivery.
How we deliver our message is crucial as to how it is received. To be a good communicator, delivery is crucial, as is not making the other person feel wrong or bad.
When someone is vested, their vested ness comes thru in their words. Your second message also felt “confrontational”.
I have no need whatsoever to be right. I have my opinion, I’m happy to share it. I don’t think anyone has access to all the information in this pandemic. We can only do then best we can do with what we have got. I’m glad you feel so passionately about it. But just be careful how you deliver your message, if you want it to be heard and received.
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This has made me so angry. She has absolutely no self awareness of how offensive she is. How people continue to follow her is beyond me. Everyone has a choice whether they have the vaccine or not, the Jews has no choice during the Holocaust. She actually disgusts me now more than I could every explain.Comparing people who are unvaccinated to Jews suffering during the most horrific of all human events in the history of the world.
Kim - there is a huge difference in being denied access to a nightclub compared to the monumental suffering of the holocaust.
Highly disrespectful, shameful, and quick frankly, in my opinion, disgusting behaviour.
Exactly! Also she is not “in her natural habitat”. I think it’s very obvious that she is completely out of place. Anyone who is used to being in such a store or in first class on a plane knows that you don’t take photos. It’s just not how you behave. Wealth whispers. She just continually shows herself up. Tacky, tacky!Didn’t think she wore face masks?
Flash Gordon was on the telly tonight then during the ads I seen Kim’s latest post.It's what we're all thinking...I promise I'm a nice person but she brings out worst in me!