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Delighted to stumble across this thread! Took up running during lockdown and I'm hooked. Out of interest, I'm wondering if some of you could help or give me advice. I'm 29, 5ft 2 and 128 pounds. Wear an Apple Watch and resting heart rate is around 64 bpm. Have been analysing my most recent runs and max HR hits 185+. I seem to be spending a lot of my runs in HR zones 4 and 5. Not sure if this is something to be concerned about? A friend told me that I shouldn't really be running in HR zones 4 and 5.
Have you also checked your heart rate whilst running to see if it actually is getting that high. I'm sure an Apple Watch is pretty reliable, but best to check properly.

I think 185 does seem quite high though. For your age it should be 191, but not sure how accurate that calculation is (220-age). @nbx512 do you know if its a real thing? Or a random thing someone made up in the 60s like the 10000 steps 😂
 
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I personal find treadmill sprints help me increase my pace as I find it’s helps with my breathing & also helps me get into a good running stride
 
Delighted to stumble across this thread! Took up running during lockdown and I'm hooked. Out of interest, I'm wondering if some of you could help or give me advice. I'm 29, 5ft 2 and 128 pounds. Wear an Apple Watch and resting heart rate is around 64 bpm. Have been analysing my most recent runs and max HR hits 185+. I seem to be spending a lot of my runs in HR zones 4 and 5. Not sure if this is something to be concerned about? A friend told me that I shouldn't really be running in HR zones 4 and 5.
Just to add to the other posters’ comments, I have a running coach and he sets the majority of my sessions by HR. I always used to run by pace but whilst it’s quite good to do this sometimes (for races etc) I found that my HR changed too much depending on various factors plus I live in a really hilly area so training by HR some of the time makes more sense!

Max HR should be calculated by age (as another poster has said). I think the 220 by age is a bit misleading, I’m no expert but women’s HR goes higher than men’s naturally so I think a max HR for you sounds reasonable - depending on how old you are. I am 31 and my max is probably around 190-192 based on my Garmin which again may or may not be too accurate! I also don’t think (but may be wrong again 😄) that resting HR has any impact on max HR.

I have always been told that to get the best results from running and hit the sweet spot between training effectively and avoiding over training and injury you should try strike an 80:20 balance between ‘easy’ runs and hard runs. For example, I know that my ‘easy’ HR zone is anything under 150, so when I do a recovery run (I do 1-2 of these per week for 45 mins) I make sure my HR is around and about there. If this means that I take walking breaks during my run, so be it! Lots of elite marathon runners take walking breaks during runs - there is no shame in it ☺

Running in zones 4-5 is great for improving speed and fitness quickly but I definitely wouldn’t spend all my runs in those zones and you’d probably see more improvement doing intervals or hill reps where you spend less time in high zones with a recovery break in between.
 
Thanks for your replies @Saddlesoap and @orange club biscuit. I'm not part of a running club and generally run on my own but a friend had told me that running in HR zone 4 and 5 can do more harm than good so you've put my mind at ease slightly! I used to run 5k at a constant 'race' pace so I'm learning to slow down a little and I'm enjoying it much more. You both seem to be so knowledgeable so any guidance on building overall fitness is welcome!
 
Have you also checked your heart rate whilst running to see if it actually is getting that high. I'm sure an Apple Watch is pretty reliable, but best to check properly.

I think 185 does seem quite high though. For your age it should be 191, but not sure how accurate that calculation is (220-age). @nbx512 do you know if its a real thing? Or a random thing someone made up in the 60s like the 10000 steps 😂
There’s about three schools if thought re calculating max HR and they all end up within about 5bpm of each other. Also wrist based heart rate isn’t as accurate as the good old chest strap. What I would say is not to stress about scientific accuracy. You aren’t going to screw up a run if your watch HR was 151 when in reality it was 147 so use the zones the apply watch perscribes but make sure your easy runs (which should be about 80% of your total weekly volume) are in zone 2, max zone 3. This may seem ridiculously slow at first but what’s really rewarding is seeing your pace at those lower heart rates pick up as time goes by, that’s when you know you’re getting fit!
 
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Wow on the HR stuff. My resting rate is around 68BPM and average when I'm running is 176BPM. I'm 28, 5'6" and 156lbs (working on that number :rolleyes:) don't think I could run any slower if I tried seeing as I average 32 mins on a 5k. Feel like I'm mega unfit now :ROFLMAO:
 
Wow on the HR stuff. My resting rate is around 68BPM and average when I'm running is 176BPM. I'm 28, 5'6" and 156lbs (working on that number :rolleyes:) don't think I could run any slower if I tried seeing as I average 32 mins on a 5k. Feel like I'm mega unfit now :ROFLMAO:
Omg you can definitely run slower! My easy runs are like 6:15/km pace whereas my 5km PB is 21min! Try keeping your HR under 150. Start out for just doing 10 minutes and then run at your normal pace and then just keep increasing that time. Also, what you can always do is run to a time (e.g. 40 Min at Max 150 HR) so you're less fixated on distance and pace. It'll feel sucky at first but you'll get used to it. Also a lower HR is better at burning large if you're trying to loose some weight. Also easier running will help you get fitter faster and reduce the risk of injury, it's a win win win situation.
 
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Omg you can definitely run slower! My easy runs are like 6:15/km pace whereas my 5km PB is 21min! Try keeping your HR under 150. Start out for just doing 10 minutes and then run at your normal pace and then just keep increasing that time. Also, what you can always do is run to a time (e.g. 40 Min at Max 150 HR) so you're less fixated on distance and pace. It'll feel sucky at first but you'll get used to it. Also a lower HR is better at burning large if you're trying to loose some weight. Also easier running will help you get fitter faster and reduce the risk of injury, it's a win win win situation.
Thank you, I'll try my best. Probably be easier for me to try this week as I'm running on my own without my boyfriend a mile ahead of me making me feel like a snail anyway.

Wow 21 mins is amazing!! I'm always in awe of the people at parkrun who I pass on their way back when I'm not even half way there yet!! I'm just not designed for proper speed!
 
Thank you, I'll try my best. Probably be easier for me to try this week as I'm running on my own without my boyfriend a mile ahead of me making me feel like a snail anyway.

Wow 21 mins is amazing!! I'm always in awe of the people at parkrun who I pass on their way back when I'm not even half way there yet!! I'm just not designed for proper speed!
Honestly there's not one 'fast' body type. I've been active my whole life and have been running for about 5 years. In my teenage years I'd do a 5km on the track every few weeks and was always around 33-34 mins. Keep at it and you may just surprise yourself!

As ever (I'm just a big running nerd) I am MORE than happy to write you a program to give you an idea of different kinds of runs but also to help you get a bit faster 😊
 
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Honestly there's not one 'fast' body type. I've been active my whole life and have been running for about 5 years. In my teenage years I'd do a 5km on the track every few weeks and was always around 33-34 mins. Keep at it and you may just surprise yourself!

As ever (I'm just a big running nerd) I am MORE than happy to write you a program to give you an idea of different kinds of runs but also to help you get a bit faster 😊
Well. I went out for a run just after my last post and tried to slow it down a bit. For context of where I am today, the weather is bleeping grim :ROFLMAO: running on a mixture in parts of pavement, gravel and just pure mud.

Distance: 6km
Time: 41:02
Avg Page: 6'49"/km
.........Avg Heart Rate: 182BPM 😂😂😂

Did honestly feel a lot easier and I could have carried on tbh but needed to get back. I will try again to slow it down tomorrow and see if it makes any difference to my heart rate.

If it's no trouble and you want to that would be amazing, thank you :) I've never had any kind of plan written for me just taken ones off the internet. I only started running in 2018, but into general fitness since I got to about 23. Before that I was the image of bad health, not overweight (actually had an eating disorder in my teens so verging on the other end of the spectrum) but terrible diet and smoked from 14-23 🤮
 
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Well. I went out for a run just after my last post and tried to slow it down a bit. For context of where I am today, the weather is bleeping grim :ROFLMAO: running on a mixture in parts of pavement, gravel and just pure mud.

Distance: 6km
Time: 41:02
Avg Page: 6'49"/km
.........Avg Heart Rate: 182BPM 😂😂😂

Did honestly feel a lot easier and I could have carried on tbh but needed to get back. I will try again to slow it down tomorrow and see if it makes any difference to my heart rate.

If it's no trouble and you want to that would be amazing, thank you :) I've never had any kind of plan written for me just taken ones off the internet. I only started running in 2018, but into general fitness since I got to about 23. Before that I was the image of bad health, not overweight (actually had an eating disorder in my teens so verging on the other end of the spectrum) but terrible diet and smoked from 14-23 🤮
@nbx512 is spot on re the recovery pace, also running by time is a good tip too. Although I swear it sometimes makes the time go slower haha.

Did you say you are using an Apple Watch? Wrist hr (which I think someone said above) is quite tit sometimes and can pick up your cadence instead of HR, also am sure mine doesn’t work as well when I have cold hands cos it can’t pick up your pulse as easily? It’s slightly less scientific but some people recommend using RPE (relative perceived exertion )instead, which is what I defer to when I don’t like the look of what my watch is telling me 😂😂

side note, I miss parkrun so much, literally find it so hard to make myself try as much when I’m on my own (and also get out of bed for 9am on a sat)
 
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I wouldn’t worry too much what your HR says. You know how you feel more than your watch. I’ve had days where my watch has said my heart rate is really high, but I’ve felt amazing - and vice versa.

I judge my easy run pace as the pace I can run and comfortably sing. I don’t actually sing out loud, but it would be a good way to make sure people stay at least 2m away 😂
 
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@nbx512 is spot on re the recovery pace, also running by time is a good tip too. Although I swear it sometimes makes the time go slower haha.

Did you say you are using an Apple Watch? Wrist hr (which I think someone said above) is quite tit sometimes and can pick up your cadence instead of HR, also am sure mine doesn’t work as well when I have cold hands cos it can’t pick up your pulse as easily? It’s slightly less scientific but some people recommend using RPE (relative perceived exertion )instead, which is what I defer to when I don’t like the look of what my watch is telling me 😂😂

side note, I miss parkrun so much, literally find it so hard to make myself try as much when I’m on my own (and also get out of bed for 9am on a sat)
Yeah I am on Apple Watch. I'd never really thought about HR before apart from obviously it not being worryingly high. I did feel better today and not like I was pushing it to the very maximum.

Omg I miss it so much too! Can't wait until it's back on. I love trying to beat the previous week's time.
 
Haven’t posted for a while but on 3rd November I set myself a goal to get to running 5k by the end of this lockdown. 5 weeks ago I could barely manage 2mins & today I managed the full 5k in 46mins. So buzzing I didnt focus on time or pace just the distance. Now the gym are open I’m gonna work on my pace with treadmill sprints as find this has helped before a long with one leg day a week to build my strength. Aim is to improve pace this month then come jan set myself a new goal. Well done everyone else for just getting out there in this weather think is was 4 degrees when I did my run
Well done you 👏🏻👏🏻 I set myself small goals when I started running at the first lockdown and found that really helped me, keep doing what your doing 👍🏻

I got out this morning for a frosty run but loved it! Looking forward to getting back to the gym to spin/work on weights and aiming to keep to outside running as much as possible but use the occasional treadmill setting which slows you down and speeds you up to work on sprints!
It’s such a wonderful feeling being out running in the cold weather 😊 Iv been doing a bit of reading and they say strength work is important for running, I haven’t done any since March 😳 I tried to do some at home 🥴 but wasn’t enjoying it the way I did when at the gym so gave up 😒 looking forward to going back, I’m in Scotland and we are level 4 just now so all our gyms are closed 🥴
 
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Well. I went out for a run just after my last post and tried to slow it down a bit. For context of where I am today, the weather is bleeping grim :ROFLMAO: running on a mixture in parts of pavement, gravel and just pure mud.

Distance: 6km
Time: 41:02
Avg Page: 6'49"/km
.........Avg Heart Rate: 182BPM 😂😂😂

Did honestly feel a lot easier and I could have carried on tbh but needed to get back. I will try again to slow it down tomorrow and see if it makes any difference to my heart rate.

If it's no trouble and you want to that would be amazing, thank you :) I've never had any kind of plan written for me just taken ones off the internet. I only started running in 2018, but into general fitness since I got to about 23. Before that I was the image of bad health, not overweight (actually had an eating disorder in my teens so verging on the other end of the spectrum) but terrible diet and smoked from 14-23 🤮
I just tried to send you a message so we don't spam here but it won't let me. Would you be able to send me one please?

Well done you 👏🏻👏🏻 I set myself small goals when I started running at the first lockdown and found that really helped me, keep doing what your doing 👍🏻


It’s such a wonderful feeling being out running in the cold weather 😊 Iv been doing a bit of reading and they say strength work is important for running, I haven’t done any since March 😳 I tried to do some at home 🥴 but wasn’t enjoying it the way I did when at the gym so gave up 😒 looking forward to going back, I’m in Scotland and we are level 4 just now so all our gyms are closed 🥴
Omg I know! So I'm in Aus so we're pretty open now but my motivation for home gym work puts during our months long lock down was non existent. You can definitely do stuff from home though. I can point you in the direction of some resources if you'd like?
 
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Well done you 👏🏻👏🏻 I set myself small goals when I started running at the first lockdown and found that really helped me, keep doing what your doing 👍🏻


It’s such a wonderful feeling being out running in the cold weather 😊 Iv been doing a bit of reading and they say strength work is important for running, I haven’t done any since March 😳 I tried to do some at home 🥴 but wasn’t enjoying it the way I did when at the gym so gave up 😒 looking forward to going back, I’m in Scotland and we are level 4 just now so all our gyms are closed 🥴
Feel for you guys being shut! I have just rejoined (not been since March) and I’m already feeling back to my pre lockdown(s) self!
 
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I just tried to send you a message so we don't spam here but it won't let me. Would you be able to send me one please?


Omg I know! So I'm in Aus so we're pretty open now but my motivation for home gym work puts during our months long lock down was non existent. You can definitely do stuff from home though. I can point you in the direction of some resources if you'd like?
I couldn’t figure it out either so I went on forum business and there was an admin post from June saying they’d changed the rules so only long term members can send PMs 🙃 ah well xx
 
I just tried to send you a message so we don't spam here but it won't let me. Would you be able to send me one please?


Omg I know! So I'm in Aus so we're pretty open now but my motivation for home gym work puts during our months long lock down was non existent. You can definitely do stuff from home though. I can point you in the direction of some resources if you'd like?
Thank you, that would be great 😊
 
I couldn’t figure it out either so I went on forum business and there was an admin post from June saying they’d changed the rules so only long term members can send PMs 🙃 ah well xx
I can send them normally but it says your settings are super private. BTW you should be able to send them if you're over 200 posts. I got over that and still couldn't but asked in the help section and they enabled it.

Thank you, that would be great 😊
Done! Sorry I'm having a brain fart (very long work day) but did you want general gym or 'home gym' exercises? If it's the latter let me know what equipment you've got (e.g. A band, a backpack and some heavy books....)
 
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