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Great post. It makes me so mad that literally all they have to do is self promotion so that they can keep what they have, yet all they have to do is get one of their arselicking lackeys to say how disappointed they are for everyone to jump to their defence. As an institution they are indefensible. Their entire purpose is the continuation and advancement of The Windsors. All the guff about their ' duty'. They were born into incredible and unearned privelege and all they have to do in return is shut up and turn up to some charitable appointments. Lots of actors/ singers/ tv personalities do charitable works alongside their actual jobs, as do many 'ordinary' people. Their only purpose is as the sosp opera that they are.
 
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Vikka, I nestled in with a cup of tea to read your postings and so enjoyed them.
Would love to read more of your insights and views
 
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So I’m rewatching series 1 of The Crown and I like to look up the people on Wiki while I watch. I’ve just skim read about Porchy (Lord Porchester, the Queens friend) and I think he has a look of Prince William! I’ve read before rumours that Andrew is Porchys son (can’t remember where) but if there’s some truth to it, maybe the similarities in looks ring true? Pic attached of Porchy where I think he looks like William.
 

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I honestly don't believe the "Porchy's Andy's dad" gossip, I don't even know where it originated??
Even if that were true, he wouldn't look like Will, Andy's Will's uncle after all.

Will looks a lot like his mum and interestingly he and his cousin Peter (Anne's son) look like twins separated at birth, one became blond, the other brunette.

Genetics/inherited looks are a fun thing. Some people don't look like they're related at all (eg Bea & Eug (& their parents), though they resemble Vic & queen mum loads!) and others look like carbon copies of each other (the Camb kids, esp G & L (who take after the Midds)) and yet some see the exact opposite!

The pic's a good find!
 
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I was hoping you would reply @vikka, I’m enjoying reading your posts
He does look like Peter, you’re right, so maybe he takes after Anne and The Spencer Family. I was unsure about the rumours too but I love a good rumour rabbit hole!
 
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I was hoping you would reply @vikka, I’m enjoying reading your posts
He does look like Peter, you’re right, so maybe he takes after Anne and The Spencer Family. I was unsure about the rumours too but I love a good rumour rabbit hole!
LOL please, you're not the only one
We all love some good gossip, it's what we're all here for!

Some believe the Porchy rumour, incl. on this thread, but I just can't believe it, don't see how it could/would be true and would love to know the origin of it. Physical resemblance isn't the greatest marker (unless you talk about Boris Becker and his lovechild Anna, back then he wanted a paternity test and it's like, bloody heck, all you need is to look at the child!).

@vikka loving your posts. Please keep them coming
Thank you both!
Or rather thank you all!
 
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I didnt think HM would bec so stupid as to get pregnant by someone els, and that she loved Phil despite his indiscretions, but someone said something on this thread that made me doubt myself. They thought it was plausible that her and Phil were going through a rocky patch, she got pregnant and insisted on having it. Andy is so different looking from his siblings and there is something that is being kept secret for 100years. Still implausible I think but intriguing
 
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Certainly intriguing, ultimately we don't know. I mean if we're going to go by physical resemblance, we'd have to go a bit through Phil's ancestry and compare there as well, e.g. Bea & Eug don't look like either York, but bear a strong resemblance to women in their tree a few generations back.

That type of reasoning would make sense, but at the same time there are plenty of couples who go through rocky patches and still have ("oopsie") kids.
If we're to stay with the Windsors, Diana said Harry was their "miracle child", as apparently there was nothing happening in the bedroom that year and it took so little to become pregnant..

There might be a secret kept embargoed for X time (is this from death or from which year?), but a secret like an illegitimate child would be kept secret forever. Revealing that there's a cuckoo in any family would be shocking, but in this family it has dynastic and political repercussions. The scale is just much bigger and a whole different ballgame. So by that alone I'd say even if it is true, it'll never be publicly admitted to.
Also Andy is allegedly Liz's favourite, she wouldn't risk him and his daughters lose so much by such a revelation. Even the Epst. stuff didn't waver Liz, she's thrown her support behind him with all she's got (there's never going to give a statement, she does this by appearances and those have been crystal clear).
100 years is a long time, esp if after passing. It would be best to look up what the average time is of things being kept secret, might be that 100 years is normal for monarchs.

Edit: I also think that some rumours are always popular, regardless what century and whether it's about royalty or celebrity. E.g. cheating and cuckoos have always been popular and these days it extends to surrogacy. "Kate used a surrogate 3x", "Meghan used a surrogate"... those are the most BS to me. Micro analyzing pics for "proof".... Oh and people having "secret children", like "Charles and Di's "secret daughter"" or also now popular: "Meghan gave birth before"...
It is also always been rumoured that Phil cheated, no real proof, but that one's believable in my books. (there are accounts by mates which imply Phil "having fun" along with the rest of the guys, most if not all married men...)
I also think it's more likely that Phil has an illegitimate kid somewhere than Liz.
 
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Yes that's true. I think it was due to be kept secret for 50 years and that was extended to 100. I think it may be something to do with Phil and the Profumo scandal, but that's much less juicy
The surrogacy rumours are put out about anyone who wants to disparage women who have had the audacity to marry certain celebs. Benedict Cumberbatchs wife gets the same. As if infertility is a personality flaw, or that women who are not as ' pure' as these people think they should be are punished by infertility, or that women over 35 are infertile or that these poor trapped men cant possibly be having sex with their wives but get forced into impregnating a surrogate somehow.
Why would Charles and Di have a 'secret daughter'? It makes as much sense as Kirsten Stewart and RPatz ' 4 secret children'. No one explains why they would be kept secret
 
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LOL exactly! Another typical piece if disparaging gossip I loathe is "X is at least 5 years older than they say!" And by "they" I really mean "she", because it's always a woman who is accused to be older than she really is, even women who grew up in the spotlight get treated that way in comments sections and forums!
Kate haters claimed Kate is older than she said (and used a bogus paper as source & proof, forgot the paper's name but they always publish outrageous shyte) and I read the same about Meghan. It's also always the women who marry in who are accused of all these things, at least most of the time. (there is that guy in Oz or Africa I think who fancies himself being Margaret's son and that guy who claims he's Charles's and Camilla's lovechild).
 
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I love your posts.
 
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Aren't there rumours that he has one in Australia?

It's interesting that he's passed his build and looks on so strongly. Even Anne has that rangey build, as well as Edward, and Charles is only shorter from his mother. As Harry has got older, the more he looks like Charles and Philip around the eyes and high narrow bridge to the nose. I noticed it in George's christening photos when I thought that if you turned Harry's hair grey he'd look so like Charles.
 
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Agreed, he looks far more Windsor than William who is all Diana looks wise
 
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Not sure, but Oz is possible, for sure as he took a whole year off and went sailing around the world with his mates and had "fun", leaving behind Liz and the kids. Quite dodgy behaviour for a married father of 2 (or 4 by then? don't remember). There were native women on camera for a docu giggling about the encounter with Phil and his friends...

Yes, I agree, Will is mostly all Diana and Harry mostly all Charles. Esp their faces. Charles and Harry did a tour together, a few days, before Meghan, and the similarity between them was apparent, how anyone could still say after that that Harry isn't Chuck's is beyond me.
Harry didn't just take face-wise after his father, but on that tour their mannerisms were the same, their poses, all body language. It was crazy. I have seen fantastic pics of that tour, Harry came across like Chuck's clone.
They also have both the close-set eyes passed down from Mary to her sons to Liz to Charles, Eddie, Anne and Harry, Zara and Louise.
 
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I'm not sure now if the DM are just trolling Royalists now. They have one of the Queens cousins or someone complaining that the story about the Bowes Lyon sisters in The Crown was made up. It was well documented after an expose by The News of the World in the 80's! The women's nurses say no one visited them and they were recorded as dead. The cousin reckons that was a genuine mistake! A mistake that was made twice, and one that remained for 50 years or so! He said he spoke to them several times, never that he visited. The only false bit of that story was that Princess Margaret gave a stuff about them! What idiots these people are. They are only complaining because their secrets are not just confined to people who read Royal biographies but are being globally exposed and they are being found wanting.
 
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Precisely, correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I can recall no one's made this much of a fuss over s1-3. Some, yes, esp. the implication that Phil cheated and Liz was with Porchy and some other stuff, but the protests about s4 are off the scale. Must've touched a nerve (esp as it's more recent history with clear effects on today (eg C&C&D)).

To go out and complain about things so well documented with witnesses confirming the story/stories is just.. brain dead. Must be all the inbreeding showing once again that family's intellectual capacity.

You canNOT "accidentally" mark someone as dead; and when you have a specific date as date of death, that should make you think, no?
The audacity....
 
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I think WIlliam looks like a younger Zac Goldsmith but that opens up another can of worms entirely...

Also, re Australia - doesn’t Captain Mark Phillips have a child there who was conceived whilst he was still married to Anne?
 
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I think WIlliam looks like a younger Zac Goldsmith but that opens up another can of worms entirely...

Also, re Australia - doesn’t Captain Mark Phillips have a child there who was conceived whilst he was still married to Anne?
Yes, he does. With that family, many a road seems to lead to Oz...
Affairs galore in that family

I know of the Goldsmith rumour, it's also been discussed on tattle, but if we go by looks alone... Why are Peter and William so similar?
Also Diana, her brother Charles and their father all look very very alike. I find the similarity between Charles and Diana for whatever reason particularly now extremly striking, as Charles is older.
The 3 Spencer sisters don't look too alike on the surface, but when you compare them over the years you can also clearly see the family resemblance.
And it has seeped into the next generation, e.g. Diana's niece, Sarah's daughter, Celia McC. looks a lot like Diana.
Everyone talks about Kitty Spencer, as she seeks the limelight, but Kitty takes entirely after her own mother, Victoria.

When you google their pics, esp through the years, a family/DNA link is undeniable and voids the whole Goldsmith rumour.

I don't buy the Goldsmith fantasy for one second. I'd say cuckoos are far more rare than most would think and especially so before an "heir" (Charles is the youngest, the wife was not to "step out" before securing an heir).

Also, if Diana had been a Goldsmith, that would've been used in the divorce. Even Frances's own mother was against her, because John was the one with the title and influence. What better way to prove Frances to be an awful mother and human than throw an affair at her?
 
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