YES! Patreon knows how much she's earned through them and they can certainly see, like anyone else who bothers to look, that ZERO has been done there relative to the amount of money that Patreon account has brought in - and then on top of it, she asks for a Grift a Star campaign because she "doesn't have the money" for renovations of the chapel! When I factor in the push by Brenda Gibbons to say it's out of the goodness of Stephanie's heart that she continues to earmark the Patreon money for renovation, but is under no obligation to do so, and you look at the timing of that, I can't help but feel it's centered around this somehow. If I were in charge of Patreon, this would be what I'd look at.
While I have no clue what this issue with Patreon is or was, I have a difficult time thinking it is "bullying". That is something that can be very easily remedied by a creator on Patreon when notified, if the creator doesn't have enough moral compass to root it out themselves without being nudged to do so. Bullying would take no time at all to suss out, notify Stephanie, have her remedy it. But two weeks? That seems too long for a bullying claim to be researched and some sort of remedy agreement to be reached. Lastly, if it was some bullying allegation, Stephanie wouldn't have hidden for two weeks, not answering questions about where the Patreon video is. She could have easily put out a statement on her Patreon page asking people to be nice, delete the offending posts and move on. While the bullying, technically, isn't her fault (although allowing it to continue is her fault), she would have nothing to hide from there, as it was others doing the bullying.
I sometimes have to remind myself that this is Patreon, though, so who knows? Like I've said, I don't have a ton of faith in them.
Morning everyone, so here goes another thread already flying in the speed of the light and I am finding a little difficult to decide which post to quote about the Patreon debacle.
Thank goodness the infallible
@ComtesseRose for keeping the threads coming and
@Lady Avonlea for the creative titles. You both definitely deserve your own badges.
My opinion about Patreon is that they are acting to protect both their profits and their exposure to risk.
Patreon, the same way as market places like Etsy, eBay and other sites, make money via a percentage of business of buyers/patrons. Those kind of sites, all of them, have a clear rule: don’t sign to sell here and then invite your viewers/patrons to do business outside our platform.
Do you all get what I am saying?
For example, Etsy clearly forbids shop owners of poaching the buyers (that came to them via Etsy) to go buy the same product cheaper in another website. It is not allowed even if Etsy allows their shop owners to link their own websites from Etsy. Tricky thing.
Does Etsy do that because it wants to keep all the fees involved in the sales of products via their platform? Yes. But not only that, above all, Etsy wants to protect Etsy from buyers who were scammed by websites run by their own shop owners. Buyers will go find those websites because they went to Etsy and because they were linked from Etsy platform.
Even if Etsy eventually may not be found responsible of any irregularity committed by one of the thousands of websites connected to Etsy platform, Etsy doesn’t allow shop owners to take buyers away from Etsy platform. Not openly. By doing that they are trying to control their level of liability.
So, many people may go outside Patreon to buy or order something from a creator, the same way a buyer may go to the website of a Etsy shop owner, because they trust Patreon and Etsy and EBay and think those companies will be vouching for their partners. But they are not. Anything, any deal or purchase made outside the main platform, is at the buyer/patron own risk.
Fanny used a safe and regulated platform (Patreon) as “guarantee“ to attract her patrons to buy (adopt) her scamming goods on her risky website, which can disappear from the internet tomorrow.
This is, in my opinion, the source of her Patreon problems. But Patreon must be interested in finding a way of settling with Phony. As far as I know, they seem to like her far too much. Wasn’t Phony one their embassators?