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ChubClubThug

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Absolutely agree with the above comments. I was with them in the very early days and they are unrecognisable how they behave these days. Involving that awful company when there was really no need to, has deffo killed it for me. They used to give it large how they lived in a tiny flat and had an ancient battered old car, because they weren't in it for the money 😄 ... not quite the same now you charge people £25 for a missed £6.99 dd huh!
 
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rememberwayne

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Exactly the same story.
Signed up in Feb. Shocking App. Shocking quality of videos. Facebook Lives lasting ages to get a simple message across.
Cancelled DD after a horrendous time trying to access the app.
Now Ashbourne is asking for £28 to cover the payment and their fee. When it bounces again next month, will they demand another £28?

Thankfully on James Smith Academy now and learning (and losing fat) so much more. On his live video yesterday somebody asked if he gets on with Team RH. He said no. They have blocked him from all platforms without any explanation despite no interaction.

Anyone with any advice around Ashbourne not affacting my credit score? Took years to improve and now rosea nosed twat is ballsing it up for me. 😡
James Smith is lightyears ahead of Team RH. His book is great where he described having 100k followers a few years ago and had a party to celebrate, 2 days later when he went to jiu jitsu, he was back to wiping the mats after others who are higher ranked belts than him.

My other half just went through the process of sign up and at no point was it made clear the contract was locked in.....
A friend of mine drafted up a letter for a person I know who was being refused a refund. my friend ripped the terms and conditions apart. What happened was they just blocked her and did not refund. Are their followers so blind? Can they not see this disgraceful undercurrent?

I can't believe how awful they have turned after listening to how much they wanted to help people and it wasn't about money. 🙄
Maybe the plan afterall? So many places even James Smith has their bad reviews or people with bad stories, but they have way too many bad things going on to be no smoke without fire.
 
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flibble123

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I know , last week i was on te fb group every 2seconds panicking or posting but now ive gone quiet on there and not really looking. Richie just seems so aggressive and lacks common sense - and hes not interested in uncovering why people feel eating unhealthy is cheaper of pressurising the government to change things, no hes just slagging them off. Really annoys me.


It really is. They preach no food is banned and i really fancied a kfc. Been wanting it for 2weeks and posted on geoup that i was gonna have 1. A few members wers nornal and said enjoy, 1 said i shouldnt have treats until i nail my macros and once i nail my macros i wont want kfc anyway. So bottom line is i ahoulsnt have kfc. I did anyway.

I think to be fair some of the barshit advice comes grom menvers not rh but surely as an admin its his role to stop those discussions? When someone is stepping next to their sleeping child surely its down to him to say enough is enough? When someone is obsessed with getting their steps even when injured he should say something? He shouldnt be encoursgung people to get up earlier or go to bed later for steps - sleep is important!! When members post aboyt considering white rice in shite allowance he should say something, and when someone says they struggles with steps they shouldnt be called lazy! Ill do around 11k today. I had a day off and a lie in. I walkes to and from supermarket and its started to snow. I might go for a walk before bed as it calms me and is healthier than wine. Im gonna try and be more realistic- ive been drawn into members saying to step during lunch, step at break, step step step, that my work productivity has actually gone down and i hate myself for lying in and not going for a walk before work. This week im putting work first. Ill still do walk in lunchtime and after work but i aint gonna stress. Last week i went walking in the snow for 'steps' and almost broke my neck lol.

There are some supportive people too. What i dont like is being told to weigh wraps, crackers, breads, chocolate bars etc rsther tjan entering 1 slice or whatever. I understand weighing cheese etc but weighing out a ham sarnie yogurt snd can of coke individually just takes twice as long.
I do also think his tough talking as he calls it has a place but he takes it too far. Rather than mentioning chocolate starfishes 🤢 and calling us all lazy and deluded, he could make a post about how eating healthily can be seen as more expensive but hefes tbe benefits, some people spend xxx on takeaway, nd heres some tips if ypure on ypur uppers/cant afford leccy/ link to jack monroe, while acknowledging if you live a life of poverty not to feel guilty at seeking comfort through food. He (and many posters) come across as middle class people whove not had to struggle too hard; certainty bet RH has never walked 2miles in rain to and from ahop with screaming children, got ome and soaked lentils in a freezing flat only to have the kid refise to eat it and then cry at bedtime as theyre hungry. He just comes across as ignorant - yes all us fatties waste cash on takeaway and whine at the cost of blueberries arent we knobs ha ha ha.

Their protein powder isnt fab eiher. I bought a pack as struggling with protein and the fb group would have us believe its better than cadburys. I mean its alrigjt, and its not awful, but it tastes like those cheapo powders you use to make instant hot choc..certainly not as good as cadburys.

The plan i do like, but i think rh attitude is way off and he needs to take responsibility for what goes in the group too as it is dangerous
Also, because he sits back and doesn’t say anything he can’t take the blame. But he is spearheading it all. He’s also hired all ex members as coaches despite them not having proper fitness or nutrition qualifications. When I messaged them and said I’d had disordered eating in the past and was struggling “just follow the rules” when I said I had anxiety and had had a panic attack “send us a video of you using the callipers” vile. I smashed them up! Haha
 

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Diagoras20

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Peter is lovely! Signed up myself last weekend and he was really helpful. Comes across like a proper gentleman.
 
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Educated and composed.


It’s awful isn’t it? I’ve wanted to work in fitness and nutrition before and these are the types that have always put me off.
I've been in fitness a long time both as a PT and teaching group exercise, there's alot of great instructors and trainers who genuinely care and aren't complete assholes like this. Unfortunately at the moment the total idiots seem to get the most social media airtime and biggest followings for reasons I have no idea why 🤷‍♀️
 
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theeyeroller

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This is what I’ve done with Preece. Lost nearly two stone and now just try to exercise regularly and be a bit more mindful when I eat. I’ve stayed in the group as it’s a nice, supportive place to be.
Glad to hear there is hope if you’ve managed to lose two stone and are maintaining, well done hopefully it’ll be the same for me eventually!
 
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rememberwayne

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Or because people can have more free speech in the calorie club and it’s more difficult to censor them? 🤔 Clearly they just want everyone to be a sheep in their cult!
They delete any ''moaning'' from their group and have admins on the ready to delete any posts of ''negativity''.
 
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ChubClubThug

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Totally agree, I think people only need to worry about macros if they’re nearing their goal weight and/or weight loss has plateaued, or if they are particularly interested in fitness or a specific sport. I can’t believe they charge £6.99 a month and their app doesn’t even work most of the time! Apparently he cut corners with the app but he makes out he paid top dollar for it. Wouldn’t trust anything he said now!
And that's another reason why he cannot hold people to these ridiculous contracts. They are not getting access to what they are paying for. That is a a stipulation of a subscription service, you must receive a decent quality of goods. He can swivel the app is crap. You get sod all for your money, just some links to his SHOP....🤫
 
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bikerbabe

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Urgh boke! I made the mistake of looking on his profile and he’s shared a video of one of his team talking about help with eating disorders. He bloody contributes to them! I feel sick now. I’ve permanently blocked him.


I bought them, and they are just plastic, I have another set from Amazon which is much the same. Both made in China.


Hiya! I know who you are, we’ve chatted. Well done for speaking up here. ❤
i thought i knew you but didnt want to assume. So pleased to hear you are sorted out and in a much better place. :)
 
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Diagoras20

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He would go to the website/forum owner to get this thread pulled, he would not publicise on his page what has been mentioned on here incase people actually start to put 2 + 2 together from what has been said.
I don't think he'd be able to help himself, once he gets his righteous indignation on there's no stopping his mouth. Someone should tell him about this thread 🙈
 
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ChubClubThug

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Apparently his mum lives nearby, but I don’t know what’s true and what’s not. He uses it as a convenient sob story now and then. I was raised by my Nan too. I’m not abusive because of it.
So was my best friend, he's the kindest person you could ever meet, he's never even met his mother so I know full well it isn't to blame for any odd behaviour.

I can't remember him ever mentioning his mother? Deffo not his father, only his grandad. He comes across as having some sort of anger issues towards family (apart from his nan) though as you say, I wouldn't trust him to tell the truth because he is too much of a manipulator
 
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theeyeroller

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I haven’t been a member of the group so can’t comment as in depth as some on here but I’ve always followed his page and it’s pretty clear they know nothing of real life! Don’t have anyone else depend on them and therefore only themselves to prioritise! Life gets in the way and we can’t be perfect all the time. In fact it doesn’t even get in the way, life is just life! Who sits on their death bed saying oh yeah I’m so glad I stuck to 1400 cals a day. I’d be a lot slimmer if it wasn’t for my love of takeaways but what can you do 😂 I’d rather that than regain an ED.
He’s even harsher within the group, it’s very uncomfortable to see him calling someone a lazy excuse maker when they could have all sorts going on in their lives that he couldn’t possibly understand. I’m so glad I left! I wonder if they’ll realise one day how difficult it can be if they end up having children or if their business hits the skids and they have to go back to real jobs?
 
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KerChing

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Exactly, you sound like superwoman to me but they just think because people haven’t hit their steps or macros they’re not worth their time, regardless of the reasons why. A bit of empathy and compassion goes a long way but he definitely doesn’t have any!
It was short-term! I didn’t get a lunch break as I did school hours so it’s a short day. They just seemed to think everyone worked a standard 8hr day with 1hr break, or shifts etc. I didn’t ever watch telly at that time so I wasn’t wasting stepping time or anything 😂 I felt I didn’t fit in there.

Natalie & Liam! That was them. They both seemed very down, lots of ‘issues‘, and they were one of the poster couples for the diet.
 
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Jossylovesmoss65

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It is totally beyond me how people havent seen through him?
I find him absolutely disgusting! Hope it all goes tits up for him, i really do!
 
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flibble123

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Finding this thread has been eye opening, I thought it must just be me that was the problem. I’m loathe to post as he’s just using this forum for content ideas (as a side note, content has taken a nose dive since they got all the January diet crew in, no videos, no graphics ripped off from The Fitness Chef etc), but I feel others might also find it and save themselves the heartache of exposing themselves to this.

I joined in 2019 and my eating is now so disordered, I’ve fucked my mindset up so much - AND I’m 1.5 stone heavier thanks to all the binging I’ve done. I stress so much about macros, steps, nutrient dense etc I don’t know what to eat any more and I spend everyday getting stressed about it and binging as I think fuck it. Don’t get me wrong, calorie deficit works. Of course it does. But, not everyone can cope with that level of obsession - as an all or nothing person, being told to weigh every slice of bread, cold tablets, vitamins, weigh food you’d left on the plate to remove from your total, eat your calories even if you’re not hungry (the one that he really pushes) just made me completely neurotic. People being told if they’re not hungry but have calories left, eat a packet of ham, make a shake. What about just don’t eat as you’re not hungry?!. In a past life, I was a healthy weight, I ran marathons. Then I was hit by a car, recovered, then had a baby. My body has taken a literal beating and I just wanted to get healthy, now I’m worse than I’ve ever been and can’t see a way out.

I also struggle with the inconsistencies and the bad advice. Weighing everyday, sure I get that taking an average and just seeing it as data can be useful, but I also didn’t want to weight myself in front of my 1 year old daughter every morning, what kind of message is that giving her? When I said as much I basically got told to weigh at night “if it is such a big deal”. It really upset me as I don’t want my daughter thinking she needs to assess her body every day of her life, she doesn’t need to see this obsessive shit so early yet I’m basically lazy/an idiot if I don’t.

Another fun fact. At my calories, 1700, if I add 3 workouts a week it bumps to 1800 but protein goes DOWN. Someone rightly questioned this as surely you’d need more protein for muscle repair - but asked if maybe the additional carbs were for energy. Basically a solid nutritional reason. There isn’t one.
It’s basically because that’s the way MFP percentages work. So their nutritional advice is based on a one size fits all computer generated number, not what is best for your body, or the circumstances you’ve entered. Comments on that post were shut down, obviously, can’t dare point out the obvious.

Criticising Slimming World, then making some disgusting cottage cheese, weetabix and flavour drops combination - that is exactly what they do at SW!! Why is it any better if you’re doing it under the guise of macro obsession? Eat mad food combinations just to hit the numbers.

Having meltdowns and rants while telling his members that no one cares how hard their life is. Showing these ridiculous drawings of penis trackers. I mean.... I’m not a 15 year old boy. It’s crazy I gave this company money. Sorry for the length of this... so much anger right now.
Oh darling. This was my biggest fear for people. This was where I felt I was heading. I was literally sobbing because I didn’t know how to eat anymore as I couldn’t get the callipers readings right. I ended up panicking and thinking I just don’t know how to eat anymore. Since the weekend, I just stopped tracking and stopped “smashing the weights” and started doing workouts I genuinely enjoy from boxing and bubbles, pop sugar etc and I’ve actually lost a pound. I’m just desperate for my periods to come back after starving myself for so long.

That penis tracker was vile. I think they really appeal to the lowest type of people. It’s juvenile. I agree with the setting a bad example. I’m all for my son seeing me workout but not the weighing everything including myself. I was doing it in secret before he woke up 😔

I’m trying to take elements from it, more protein and fibre in my diet, but just trying to eat what feels right. Not pushing myself to stuff food in when I don’t want it, not having a day where I consume a huge amount of carbs. Just eating what feels right for my body. I hope you can find a way to come back to yourself.

Finding this thread has been eye opening, I thought it must just be me that was the problem. I’m loathe to post as he’s just using this forum for content ideas (as a side note, content has taken a nose dive since they got all the January diet crew in, no videos, no graphics ripped off from The Fitness Chef etc), but I feel others might also find it and save themselves the heartache of exposing themselves to this.

I joined in 2019 and my eating is now so disordered, I’ve fucked my mindset up so much - AND I’m 1.5 stone heavier thanks to all the binging I’ve done. I stress so much about macros, steps, nutrient dense etc I don’t know what to eat any more and I spend everyday getting stressed about it and binging as I think fuck it. Don’t get me wrong, calorie deficit works. Of course it does. But, not everyone can cope with that level of obsession - as an all or nothing person, being told to weigh every slice of bread, cold tablets, vitamins, weigh food you’d left on the plate to remove from your total, eat your calories even if you’re not hungry (the one that he really pushes) just made me completely neurotic. People being told if they’re not hungry but have calories left, eat a packet of ham, make a shake. What about just don’t eat as you’re not hungry?!. In a past life, I was a healthy weight, I ran marathons. Then I was hit by a car, recovered, then had a baby. My body has taken a literal beating and I just wanted to get healthy, now I’m worse than I’ve ever been and can’t see a way out.

I also struggle with the inconsistencies and the bad advice. Weighing everyday, sure I get that taking an average and just seeing it as data can be useful, but I also didn’t want to weight myself in front of my 1 year old daughter every morning, what kind of message is that giving her? When I said as much I basically got told to weigh at night “if it is such a big deal”. It really upset me as I don’t want my daughter thinking she needs to assess her body every day of her life, she doesn’t need to see this obsessive shit so early yet I’m basically lazy/an idiot if I don’t.

Another fun fact. At my calories, 1700, if I add 3 workouts a week it bumps to 1800 but protein goes DOWN. Someone rightly questioned this as surely you’d need more protein for muscle repair - but asked if maybe the additional carbs were for energy. Basically a solid nutritional reason. There isn’t one.
It’s basically because that’s the way MFP percentages work. So their nutritional advice is based on a one size fits all computer generated number, not what is best for your body, or the circumstances you’ve entered. Comments on that post were shut down, obviously, can’t dare point out the obvious.

Criticising Slimming World, then making some disgusting cottage cheese, weetabix and flavour drops combination - that is exactly what they do at SW!! Why is it any better if you’re doing it under the guise of macro obsession? Eat mad food combinations just to hit the numbers.

Having meltdowns and rants while telling his members that no one cares how hard their life is. Showing these ridiculous drawings of penis trackers. I mean.... I’m not a 15 year old boy. It’s crazy I gave this company money. Sorry for the length of this... so much anger right now.
I can recommend following all of these for self love and deprogramming some of the bullshit advice.
 

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