Tattle Turds #2

[GoLibrarianPoo]

Mines the same, she’d happily glue herself to me if she could. She’s like a bag of elbows though so I can’t let her sit on me because it hurts too much!


That sounds lovely! I’m glad you get to make the most of it and also glad you don’t have too much travelling to do to the airport before the flight. If you don’t have a cooked breakfast without hash browns, it’s not worth it imo.

Yes he's all elbows too! And boney pokey feet that always end up getting you in the boob, stomach/bladder or even my personal non-favourite, the morning throat punch!

"Good morning Sausa....aack!"

 

[Caitlyn130]

I said in one of the threads recently that I don't have any friends in real life...I guess you can see why.

Spoiler: Friendship stuff

I saw this post and meant to respond to it.

I can actually relate to this a lot. I moved back to the UK from the US about 10 years ago and having not been to university here, but in the US, I didn't have that friendship group like most people. I made most of my friends through dance classes and for a while I had a nice little gang. But one by one they dropped off - moved to the suburbs and got married, moved to another country/their home country, just dropped off the radar altogether until only a small handful was left. Then I joined a dance company with extremely long rehearsal hours and that became my life (and my friendship group). I was so happy and having tons of fun. But after two years, the physical demand got too much and I left. And I never heard from one of those 'friends' again. Not a single one. When I left the company, I was disowned. Over the next few years, I struggled to maintain friendships, probably a perfect storm of ADHD, life stage, nature of living in a big city.

I have always found it a lot more difficult here than in the US. I'm still friends with my college friends. I have another group of American friends who I do a zoom call with every week and we do a yearly meet up. On my down days where I realise that I have close to 0 friends in London, I remember that I have a couple of great groups in the U.S.

I suppose it's a roundabout way of saying that I hope you don't feel it reflects on you as a person. Life circumstances sometimes just see us ending up with a small - or non existent - group. It's nothing that can't be worked on. I don't know how old you are and you don't have to say, but have you tried Bumble? They have a 'friend' version, it's not just for dating. There so many options to socialise, but it's like dating in a way - you have to put yourself out there and stay consistent, and not get discouraged when one or two fall through, just keep going until something sticks!

 

[Caitlyn130]

The comment was made on the MT a while back. I talked about it earlier in this thread though.

It's really upsetting to be told you don't get an opinion on children if you don't have any. I was really fucking angry at the time

Tbh I'm raging and gobsmacked that now that this is being used as a reason for coming over here... after defending a similar comment from someone else too!

Ah ok. Gotcha. I remember the comment.

 

[KindnessMatters]

Since @GoLibrarianPoo has me blocked she won't see this, but the last comment she complained about (where I addressed people not having to experience abuse first hand to know it was bad wasn't even a comment that was aimed at her. It was a generic post I made to no one in particular explaining that IMO we don't have to have children to know how children should be raised, and we don't have to have experience of abuse to have an opinion that either. I included it to show that has been my attitude all along. She said she never trusted me from my first post, which is her choice, but I have no control over whether people like me or not. If I've 'liked' posts that she or others don't agree with, that happens. Situations are multi dimensional, not black and white, and sometimes you like part of what someone says but not all of it. People have repeatedly said this isn't an echo chamber where we all pat each other on the back for having different opinions and getting along. It obviously isn't. So if you genuinely don't like me could you please do me the favour of saying why (so I can learn from it) and just let me know and I will leave.

 

[GoLibrarianPoo]

Apart from the humour, compasssion, interesting personal stories and all of A's wonderful wild shit, I have also learnt quite a bit about my self over these last months on here.

Some stuff has reasonated with me, some stuff has struck some of my preciously held 'value' nerves and some of it has been neither here nor there.

Spoiler: Sheet Music

Is KM actually Tallulah - the one of the low slung jogging bottoms fame?

I feel like I've wandered into some kind of Telenovela and I can't keep up
According to Kindnessmatters post outing themselves above yes Who knows Telenovela is right!

BIB I totally agree with you here! That's not been a bad thing for me as I can be a bit black and white in my thinking at times and could do with a bit more nuance to my opinions on some things

oOH Jensen

Mmmm yes he's a handsome man I loved that show but I can't remember what season I stopped watching, like season 489 when there was Purgatory maybe?

 

[Magpierainbow]

Oh I loved the X-files! Did you watch any of the new ones? I haven't seen them yet.

Toombes is a creepy scrote in the program and in real life though!

No not seen any new ones am worried it might ruin good memories do you recommend?

 

[KindnessMatters]

I've also been accused of being an FM. This would be strange since Alice blocked me after I told her not to bully people (after her interview with Kyle Sandilands and Jackie O.

And her FMs have me blocked

So if that doesn't prove I'm not an FM then I don't know what will. I don't know which FM you thought I was, but if it was Pfizer Marcia...then I'm speechless.
If you don't like me because you think I'm the "moral police" or I "get on your tits" then I guess there's nothing I can do about that. I said in one of the threads recently that I don't have any friends in real life...I guess you can see why.

 

[GoLibrarianPoo]

That's the one I did my Reddit write up about. The last straw for me. Poor girl had mental health problems and died on a trip to L.A., and Netflix dragged it out into an entire series.

Thank you for doing that! That's awful! I didn't know Netflix had done that That poor girl and her poor family

 

[KindnessMatters]

this

When I posted those comments the other day that was genuine, I don't like AE anymore, and when I posted on this thread about the comments someone had said to me here, and asking about friendship, they were genuine comments. Not used to manipulate anyone, just wanting some genuine advice and help. Saying that, if some people thought I was an FM from the start (or even still do, I understand) I can see why they might think my questions might be an attempt at being manipulative, but for what it's worth, they were sincere questions from someone who was feeling sad and hasn't been a supporter of AE's for some time.

Thanks for responding. You've said many things that I expected based on going through your tweets yesterday and today. I saw how things went down with you and Alice & Co and I'm not going to hold a grudge about things that were said before you got to know us. I think you'll find the vast majority of people here weren't aware of Alice's delete-tweets before joining Tattle so you're not alone there.

I do just want to ask about this tweet: as it's fairly recent, you had been active on Tattle for a while at this point, you're interacting with Lupine and asking if IG did anything to hurt AE. I would expect you to know that's not the case and I would also have an expectation that you don't interact with Lupine at all. I'd be concerned if anyone on the MT did.

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Personally I'm kind of over the whole thing. In my mind, you definitely were an FM. You called Bianca a bogan. But I do think your change of heart is genuine. There's absolutely no requirement to be anti-Alice to participate on the threads but it's the hiding it that gets people's backs up. I recognise I'm in the minority here though and more forgiving than most.

Thank you for your understanding, and I'm sorry for hurting people's feelings and betraying their sense of trust, as that genuinely was never my intention. That comment to Lupine was not my finest (or kindest!) hour, but I wrote it because he was trying to suggest IG had terribly abused AE in some way, which by this time I did not believe, so I thought I'd call him out on it because I thought he was being deliberately vague and thought if IG had really hurt AE then he'd come out and say it, but I didn't believe Ioan had, and true enough Lupine came back with a line something like "Oh he's hurt her in so many ways". I hoped this would make others who saw the comment question the truth about it and realise that Ioan hadn't hurt her as Lupine was suggesting. I don't know if it did help change anyone's mind, but that was my hope at the time.

 

[KindnessMatters]

I'm not sure if this is the right word but it feels a bit gaslight-y to have done that.

ETA: I don't think I'm being oversensitive about the comment the other poster had made because that's just an awful thing to say to anyone but particularly the childless not by choice as @clarkees said. I'm just not sure if I should just have kept my mouth shut about Kindnessmatters. If others have no issue with it I will keep quiet and not rock the Turdy boat any more

I don't know if you see this or if you have me on ignore. This is what I said the first time the issue of not having children was raised.

Then

And

So my stance was to give people the benefit of the doubt, and if it turns out they are targeting people, like me and you, who are childless, not by choice, then I would be hurt by their comments.
The latest person came on saying 'are you a parent?" and I gave them too the benefit of the doubt. I wrote to them explaining there are people here who are not parents (not by choice) and that we can use our imagination, we don't need to have had children to have opinions. They then made a point of coming back at me, sticking the knife in and turning it around. I give people the benefit of the doubt until they prove me wrong, this person went out of her way to prove me wrong, and I have every right to be hurt by this as you, especially as I was the one being targeted.

 

[GoLibrarianPoo]

If you can afford it, check out some of the cheaper phones online that specialise in extra storage. I wanted one with a good camera and a lot of storage to take photos of my boy, and my old one had such little storage that at 2 years old it was already full just from updates and I couldn't delete anything more. If you can't get a new phone, you can get flash drives or memory cards to add more storage.

Sending sympathy and hugs for the dreaded period!

I'm a bit ashamed but I can't be arsed with a new phone It's an iPhone 4... I think I'll just crack on with this one till it breaks It does everything I need it to, text, phone and internet. Facetime and imessage are helpful because best mate and family have iPhones too - I get free text and calls but some of them don't.

The only thing that's getting a little irritating is that I have to take pictures with facebook messenger and then save them to my camera roll Apparently there is space to do it this way... but not with the actual camera I don't take a lot of pictures anyway so it's all cool!

Ooh ta for the flowers and the chocolates! I get a sweet tooth around now and flowers are always lovely!

I've also been accused of being an FM. This would be strange since Alice blocked me after I told her not to bully people (after her interview with Kyle Sandilands and Jackie O.
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And her FMs have me blocked

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So if that doesn't prove I'm not an FM then I don't know what will. I don't know which FM you thought I was, but if it was Pfizer Marcia...then I'm speechless.
If you don't like me because you think I'm the "moral police" or I "get on your tits" then I guess there's nothing I can do about that. I said in one of the threads recently that I don't have any friends in real life...I guess you can see why.

I at no point have said I thought you were Pfizer
Emotionally manipulating people with comments like this BIB is not appreciated at all

That's me! No more reading your comments and replying from now.

ETA: ok I can't help myself for saying this but I'm actually really pissed off now...

I find it "interesting" that instead of talking about the points I brought up about misrepresentation you instead have:

Showing unasked for and unnecessary "proof" you aren't an FM/ of ID (can't be arsed checking that out at all sorry maybe someone else will be)

Hyperbolised what I have said by bringing the worst FM's name into this and ascribing a comparison/possible ID between you and her to me - which I have at no point even hinted at!

And then as I said attempted to emotionally manipulate those on this thread with the comment I bolded.

ETA: spelling and "* unasked for and unecessary/ of ID" from angry typing.

 

[GoLibrarianPoo]

No not seen any new ones am worried it might ruin good memories do you recommend?

Not seen them yet either but a mate watched them and enjoyed them

 

[GoLibrarianPoo]

I'm not sure if this is the right word but it feels a bit gaslight-y to have done that.

ETA: I don't think I'm being oversensitive about the comment the other poster had made because that's just an awful thing to say to anyone but particularly the childless not by choice as @clarkees said. I'm just not sure if I should just have kept my mouth shut about Kindnessmatters. If others have no issue with it I will keep quiet and not rock the Turdy boat any more

 

[GoLibrarianPoo]

In this thread? Or on the main thread?

The comment was made on the MT a while back. I talked about it earlier in this thread though.

It's really upsetting to be told you don't get an opinion on children if you don't have any. I was really fucking angry at the time

Tbh I'm raging and gobsmacked that now that this is being used as a reason for coming over here... after defending a similar comment from someone else too!

 

[GoLibrarianPoo]

2milliion per cent@GoLibrarianPoo is that same series or similar as one with Sean from happy Mondays?

Oh I'm not sure! I've not seen that series, I didn't even know Sean Rider did stuff like that That's awesome!

This one seems a lot like Ancient Aliens which was super cheesy, light on evidence and with lots of "experts" It was really good fun! As the series goes on one of the "experts" hair seems to get wilder and wilder, it's funny, like the bigger the hair the further into the series you are and more nuts the theories have gotten

 

[Caitlyn130]

Definitely time for me to quieten down again, I think. I’m not up for a pile on either as I agree, people change their mind, but I’m not ok with the expectation of emotional labour from people who’ve they’ve been cutting and talking badly about. It’s snake behaviour in my opinion.

I agree with you completely.

@GoLibrarianPoo I'm working on a response to your lovely post!

 

[KindnessMatters]

Thanks for responding. You've said many things that I expected based on going through your tweets yesterday and today. I saw how things went down with you and Alice & Co and I'm not going to hold a grudge about things that were said before you got to know us. I think you'll find the vast majority of people here weren't aware of Alice's delete-tweets before joining Tattle so you're not alone there.

I do just want to ask about this tweet: as it's fairly recent, you had been active on Tattle for a while at this point, you're interacting with Lupine and asking if IG did anything to hurt AE. I would expect you to know that's not the case and I would also have an expectation that you don't interact with Lupine at all. I'd be concerned if anyone on the MT did.

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Personally I'm kind of over the whole thing. In my mind, you definitely were an FM. You called Bianca a bogan. But I do think your change of heart is genuine. There's absolutely no requirement to be anti-Alice to participate on the threads but it's the hiding it that gets people's backs up. I recognise I'm in the minority here though and more forgiving than most.

Sorry, I meant to ask, when did I call Bianca a bogan? I don't recall it, but I certainly regret it if I did.

 

[House of Tea]

What breed is she @clarkees ? Apologies if you have said.

 

[KindnessMatters]

Spoiler: Friendship stuff

I saw this post and meant to respond to it.

I can actually relate to this a lot. I moved back to the UK from the US about 10 years ago and having not been to university here, but in the US, I didn't have that friendship group like most people. I made most of my friends through dance classes and for a while I had a nice little gang. But one by one they dropped off - moved to the suburbs and got married, moved to another country/their home country, just dropped off the radar altogether until only a small handful was left. Then I joined a dance company with extremely long rehearsal hours and that became my life (and my friendship group). I was so happy and having tons of fun. But after two years, the physical demand got too much and I left. And I never heard from one of those 'friends' again. Not a single one. When I left the company, I was disowned. Over the next few years, I struggled to maintain friendships, probably a perfect storm of ADHD, life stage, nature of living in a big city.

I have always found it a lot more difficult here than in the US. I'm still friends with my college friends. I have another group of American friends who I do a zoom call with every week and we do a yearly meet up. On my down days where I realise that I have close to 0 friends in London, I remember that I have a couple of great groups in the U.S.

I suppose it's a roundabout way of saying that I hope you don't feel it reflects on you as a person. Life circumstances sometimes just see us ending up with a small - or non existent - group. It's nothing that can't be worked on. I don't know how old you are and you don't have to say, but have you tried Bumble? They have a 'friend' version, it's not just for dating. There so many options to socialise, but it's like dating in a way - you have to put yourself out there and stay consistent, and not get discouraged when one or two fall through, just keep going until something sticks!

Spoiler: Friendship

Here's hoping this spoiler works because honestly 99 per cent of the ones I try don't! Thank you so much for sharing all that with me, it really means a lot. I'm so sorry you've been through a similar situation too because from every post of yours I've read you seem like such a lovely, bright, intelligent and bitingly witty person I never would have imagined you'd have any problem with friendships. I think part of my problem is similar to your experiences. I went to one primary school (grades 1 to 7) then 4 high schools, 2 universities and a thing we have in Australia called TAFE to study computing in one school, and film and television in another. And thought I made friends at the schools they never really continued after I left.
I always wondered what I do wrong because most people seem to have friends from childhood, or at least some social circle, and I've never really been able to maintain any. It sometimes feels like they just put up with me when they have to and don't think about me again when I'm gone. But as I said I can't ask them if that's the case because they've moved on, had lives, jobs, marriages, children. And I've had nothing. I got sick 18 years ago and have had to live in 'lock down' conditions since. So I've only had one job, got sick, I'm single so I never got the chance to meet someone and fall in love, get married and have kids and live happily ever after. I live like it's Groundhog Day, every day, for 18 years. I wake up sick, watch tv or hop on the computer, go back to bed, repeat again and again. So literally the only people I get to meet are online, and as you can see here, it doesn't seem to go very well. I wish so much that I knew if it was me, and what I could change about me, what I'm doing wrong. Or if it's just a ce like you've got, where it's not you, it's just bad luck. Do you mind if I ask what kind of dance you do? I did ballet as a little girl (and found out I had flat feet!) and did it again at Adult Ed for fun.

 

[Autisteuse]

I was watching Still Game as i am want to do and I was like I recognise that fella. Was a cameo by Martin Compston from Line Of Duty he's a massive fan and wanted to be in the final season. He flew over from the Line Of Duty set to film for a day.

I haven't watched it yet it's on my list but the list is long and I know it's fantastic so I will just binge the whole thing

Have you watched 'Bodies', another Jed Mercurio drama, on IPlayer? SERIOUSLY riveting; I'm watching the whole thing again from scratch