If you don’t buy 100% purebred breeds won’t they eventually die out? Genuine question, I’ve never had a dog before but always wondered this.
Oh, I’m glad to hear that some vets are still doing this, as this is really the only way to stop unwanted litters ending up in Shelters.I have seen the local vets offer neutering for free for people from certain postcodes, though they seem to be going around the whole area slowly so there is that
My friend from London said that they have a similar scheme but he had to prove that he was under a certain income which seems a bit unfortunate tbh, he wasn't exactly 'well off' either
Yes I can imagine that must be frustrating but it’s unfair to say that EVERYONE who purchased a puppy in the past 12 months falls into that category.oh no the tiring bit is arguing with customers who’ve purchased a dog that get defensive if they called out on it.
And how are the vets affording to do this FOC?I hope so, as it always seems to me that cats get largely forgotten in the microchip arguments. I also remember a time when certain vets would neuter cats free of charge, not sure that happens anymore which is sad imo.
They don't answer questions that they don't like. Similarly they didn't answer my question, if dog breeding stopped where would we be in 10 years.Yes I can imagine that must be frustrating but it’s unfair to say that EVERYONE who purchased a puppy in the past 12 months falls into that category.
Out of interest, what do you within the pet/animal sector? And you didn’t answer my previous question earlier in the thread; do you have any pets and if so how did you choose them?
I think breeding can serve a purpose. There's been historical evidence of breeds nearly dying out until breeders made an effort to re populate the breed again. Would it have been better to let that breed go extinct?if dog breeding stopped where would we be in 10 years.
I can understand questioning people who work from home for the last year and bit who got dogs as it was handy to have as they were always at home and then thinking what do I do when I have to go back to work and didn’t think that far aheadYes I can imagine that must be frustrating but it’s unfair to say that EVERYONE who purchased a puppy in the past 12 months falls into that category.
Out of interest, what do you within the pet/animal sector? And you didn’t answer my previous question earlier in the thread; do you have any pets and if so how did you choose them?
Exactly. A lot of breeds are in serious decline in numbers as it is.I think breeding can serve a purpose. There's been historical evidence of breeds nearly dying out until breeders made an effort to re populate the breed again. Would it have been better to let that breed go extinct?
I know I’m quoting myself but if @Oohthedrama or someone with similar strong views could give some insight that would be really helpful. I do think that breeding should be stricter because I’ve seen dogs with such pushed in noses or there was that one dog at Crufts who have such a low back. That seems so cruel to the dogs.If you don’t buy 100% purebred breeds won’t they eventually die out? Genuine question, I’ve never had a dog before but always wondered this.
8 hours a day is not acceptable for any dog? I honestly don’t know why I bother posting about this. It’s a miserable excuse for a life.This is making a huge generalisation on owners that do work long days and then presumably don’t have the time to walk their dogs or play with them tbh.
At the end of the day, there’s going to be some numpties who neglect their dogs needs and are probably not good owners to begin with. Others who work 8 hour days and come back home to spend time with their dogs and walk them as appropriate. Some dogs are fine with being alone and others aren’t but it all comes back to the choice to adopt potentially not being the one for that specific person.
No it’s not at all like adopting a child.Yes there are many pitfalls and it can be sadly very unethical. However the idea that you should get a rescue animal is down to personal choice and dependable on your circumstances and experience.
It's like saying well adopt a kid rather than have your own which lots of people wouldn't do.
8 hours is generally the maximum time a dog can be left alone. I mean by some of the people’s standards for time on this thread over half of the population probably wouldn’t be able to have dogs in general.8 hours a day is not acceptable for any dog? I honestly don’t know why I bother posting about this. It’s a miserable excuse for a life.
No it’s not at all like adopting a child.
Every well bred purebred dog i have gotten was from a `home breeder`where the dogs and puppies are in the home, dogs all health tested, titles, even with dogs who are World Winners. You think a reputable breeder is only good is they have dogs in kennels or what do you mean? Cause i am a bit confused about the term home breeders?There are also definitely a few home breeders that get their dogs tested and ensure their welfare and the like, at the end of the day to become a reputable breeder will require you to have some sort of experience.
Some of my extended family now run kennels and are reputable for breeding dogs and having experience with show dogs, but at the end of the day they started out as 'home' breeders who happened to be into the whole show dog business. I'm sure that business is also shady as hell, but I can testify on all accounts that they're wonderful owners, and from what I have heard from the likes of Crufts in Britain a lot of the owners are pretty good. I think it all just comes down to the breed standards being enforced/encouraged by these sorts of competitions which ultimately result in poor health.
In my country that would not be possible.. you cant breed dogs that are closely related to eachother.Even with reputable breeding it doesnt always guarantee a good healthy dog.
A lot of breeders okay-ed by the KC are inbreeding to get that 'perfect look' for the breed but the dogs back end is never right.
Is breeding ever 'ethical' I do wonder and I have a dog. This is just a pondering from me.
Four hours a day is the maximum recommended time for a dog to be left alone. It’s going to be a miserable life for a sociable animal left eight hours a day, then expected to sleep eight hours at night. I think half the population probably shouldn’t have dogs- you are correct. Might cut down on puppy farming too. Double win.8 hours is generally the maximum time a dog can be left alone. I mean by some of the people’s standards for time on this thread over half of the population probably wouldn’t be able to have dogs in general.
I know plenty of people who are at home the whole day and barely walk their dogs if at all, just as I know people who work 6-8 hours a day and do the very same thing. At the same time I also know people who genuinely care for their dogs no matter how many hours they work, and at the end of the day it depends on the dog and the owner.
Yes, my breed was almost gone in the 60s. In 10 years there were only about 3 dogs registered. So they brought the breed back by using look-a-likes. Still a rare breed, but there are a bit more breeders. People are upset about like certain wildlife animals getting extinct. For me a dog breed going extinct is just as bad. They are part of history. Every country should just have stricter rules about what is needed before you breed a dog.I think breeding can serve a purpose. There's been historical evidence of breeds nearly dying out until breeders made an effort to re populate the breed again. Would it have been better to let that breed go extinct?
What about breeds of dogs dying out of you don’t breed them and people only adopt dogs?THANKYOU! And then they get devastated when all the problems come from having puppy and kitten farmed pets. All for the vanity of having a special breed tiny animal for clout.
Adopt don't shop you selfish pricks. It's people like them that keep the cruelty going.
Adopt or shop responsibly. Reputable breeders always take a dog back if needed, they are not the reason for the dogs in the shelter. Backyard breeders, puppymills and the dumb owners who buy from those places are. Focus your hate on those `breeders`.THANKYOU! And then they get devastated when all the problems come from having puppy and kitten farmed pets. All for the vanity of having a special breed tiny animal for clout.
Adopt don't shop you selfish pricks. It's people like them that keep the cruelty going.
I’d say “home” breeders would be classed as a backyard breeder that is a lot more responsible than a backyard breeder. Seems that the kennel groups do their own inspections or some sort of vetting process on the breeders they recommend and most websites define reputable breeders as those that are highly experienced in their breeds or have a good record with breeding.Every well bred purebred dog i have gotten was from a `home breeder`where the dogs and puppies are in the home, dogs all health tested, titles, even with dogs who are World Winners. You think a reputable breeder is only good is they have dogs in kennels or what do you mean? Cause i am a bit confused about the term home breeders?
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