I think her Dad is busy looking after Kai
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Lol I actually don’t care what other people think she’s done and don’t judge them for it I don’t know you from a bar of soap so couldn’t care less this forum doesn’t have an impact on my life it’s literally gossiping
. And again stop assuming people haven’t had similar experiences not everyone likes to post personal experiences on the internet 
I’m a little confused….. if all this is really going on why are they all (including his girls and her boy) following each other on the gram??? I think they are playing with the Tattle 
I don’t think they’re playing with us. There is obviously lots of drama. But I think it’s weird they’re still following each other. I’m less surprised about her still following him but she deserves an unfollow from him. Hit that button Andrew!I’m a little confused….. if all this is really going on why are they all (including his girls and her boy) following each other on the gram??? I think they are playing with the Tattle
Also where is she heading? What’s CH?
I assume church? But could be wrong.
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Yeah why in the duck do they still follow each other? That's one part I can't explain. At first I figured it is to avoid divorce speculation but now Andrew is following divorce lawyer and narc recovery pages the writing is on the wall. If he thinks she ended his babies short life for no reason other than spite surely he would unfollow, block and delete
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Ps was Nathan following Papi earlier? As he is not anymore but Papi still follows him. Same as Triniti with the one way follow. It makes me wonder if Sophie is spreading a narrative
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Ps was Nathan following Papi earlier? As he is not anymore but Papi still follows him. Same as Triniti with the one way follow. It makes me wonder if Sophie is spreading a narrative
She will definitely be spreading a narrative. She will be saying andrew is the narc and the abuser. And look, he may be also. It’s just that she is a bigger one.
If she’s saying Andrew assaulted her prior to Europe hence the DV allegation then it’s no wonder triniti and Nathan don’t follow him.
I feel triniti is easily manipulated by loaf as her cash flow from ch, happyway ect are and extension of loaf, and Nathan is probably keeping peace for the twins sake
I feel triniti is easily manipulated by loaf as her cash flow from ch, happyway ect are and extension of loaf, and Nathan is probably keeping peace for the twins sake
I can’t remember about Triniti, but I’m sure her not following Andrew has been spoken about in here before? I don’t think Nath has ever followed him though.
They would still be following each other to keep up appearances l. If they unfollowed each other I’m sure they’d get a lot of messages etc and then the gram would know they’re not together. They’re just keeping up the appearance and most likely so it doesn’t look like they’ve split up over pixie’s death. I’m sure he would face an extreme amount of backlash and it could possibly be detrimental towards his business too.
What on earth for?Well if that's the case, i hope he does take her to court.
What she (allegedly) did was objectively wrong but him taking her to court for exerting autonomy over her own body doesn’t make things right.
It’s too much of a grey area; if this were a car accident for eg. caused by a drunk driver, I think there’s a precedent where the at fault could be charged with the death of an unborn baby beyond 20 weeks (please correct me) but at the end of the day, we as women deserve the right to make decisions about our own health too.
My opinion on Loaf remains unwavering, I think she is a dangerous person who should be charged for fraud/scamming/etc, and an insufferable bleep but sadly we can’t have one rule for one and different for another. As someone whose pregnancies personally created severe mental health concerns (that disappeared the moment my babies were delivered) I would still want to have options if it threatened my life.
I don’t think ANYONE said she claimed DV. What was said was that if you mention DV to your healthcare team records are further protected or ‘sealed’ as someone mentioned she made sure her records are sealed therefore people have assumed she’s claimed he was violent against her. Medical records are private and confidential in the first place. I cannot stand Sophie but she hasn’t once said there was any DV.
Maybe more so taking Loaf to court to find out the actual truth on what happened and if it was a MT?
So he has some clarity.
I agree, we as women deserve the right to make the decisions for our own bodies but considering how “happy” they were until he went away with his girls I find it sickening and gross she didn’t even tell him or let him see pixie. Like it makes me feel sick inside how someone could be that vindictive and cruel. Again, I hope papi has learnt the biggest lesson from this - less going for size 6 blonde barbie dolls with absolutely zero substance and that drop their kids at the drop of a hat for a man and who use sex as a form of love bombing and more for a woman of substance andrew 
Oh please don’t misunderstand me, I absolutely agree with you! She is disgusting and her behaviour is deplorable. Theres no excuse for it. She’s a terrible person for what she has done, I’m not for a moment giving her any grace.I agree, we as women deserve the right to make the decisions for our own bodies but considering how “happy” they were until he went away with his girls I find it sickening and gross she didn’t even tell him or let him see pixie. Like it makes me feel sick inside how someone could be that vindictive and cruel. Again, I hope papi has learnt the biggest lesson from this - less going for size 6 blonde barbie dolls with absolutely zero substance and that drop their kids at the drop of a hat for a man and who use sex as a form of love bombing and more for a woman of substance andrew
I just feel that for women in general, we all deserve the right to make decisions without a man having say. It doesn’t make her situation okay, or that I don’t think he has a right to know, only that we all deserve confidential medical treatment and unfortunately for Papi in this instance he’ll sadly never get closure.
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I do understand what you’re saying but as unjust as it is for Papi, his closure really shouldn’t come at the expense of her medical in confidence (and not her specifically because she’s a bleep, I mean generally speaking).
I don't think there is any need for him to take her to court about not being listed as the father. Even if he has learned, or suspected it was MT, going to court doesn't change anything.
They can't bring Pixie back, him being on the birth certificate doesn't change the outcome. He knows he was the father, a piece of paper tying him and Sophie together forever is probably not helpful to him at this point. There is no child support or parenting payment he would be entitled too. The amount he'd be able to claim from the govt is minimal and he owns his business so he'd have to not work for that time.
The fact that she didn't let see him Pixie is heartbreaking, but going to court won't change that.
He is better off moving on and not dragging things out and slowing his own grief recovery.
And honestly - Sophie would thrive if he was taking her to court. Any attention is good attention for a narcissist. Him quietly going about his life, without her, is far more affecting to her.
They can't bring Pixie back, him being on the birth certificate doesn't change the outcome. He knows he was the father, a piece of paper tying him and Sophie together forever is probably not helpful to him at this point. There is no child support or parenting payment he would be entitled too. The amount he'd be able to claim from the govt is minimal and he owns his business so he'd have to not work for that time.
The fact that she didn't let see him Pixie is heartbreaking, but going to court won't change that.
He is better off moving on and not dragging things out and slowing his own grief recovery.
And honestly - Sophie would thrive if he was taking her to court. Any attention is good attention for a narcissist. Him quietly going about his life, without her, is far more affecting to her.
This is it! The public sharing of joy over the pregnancy and apparent planning for the future together with a baby to a MT is abhorrent. If the baby was an accident and not wanted and a termination was sought on this basis, no judgment. But to have it play out like this is sickening - especially if Andrew has been completely shut out from even knowing what has happened.I agree, we as women deserve the right to make the decisions for our own bodies but considering how “happy” they were until he went away with his girls I find it sickening and gross she didn’t even tell him or let him see pixie. Like it makes me feel sick inside how someone could be that vindictive and cruel. Again, I hope papi has learnt the biggest lesson from this - less going for size 6 blonde barbie dolls with absolutely zero substance and that drop their kids at the drop of a hat for a man and who use sex as a form of love bombing and more for a woman of substance andrew
Hopefully someone is.I think her Dad is busy looking after Kai
I think it's also important that DV claims stop being posted on here, as it literally was one person who claimed she "may have said it" to get her records kept private as a little side comment, but now lots on here are posting as though it is a real possibility.
Loaf has NEVER claimed DV, nor has there been any evidence stating it may be possible, so can we PLEASE stop with the DV speculation?? This is something that could run people's livelihoods if random, unsubstantiated gossip got out there into the wider public. Plus, it also can be triggering for people who have actually experienced DV.
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