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petitspois

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It would be interesting to see more non standard ways of living that weren’t strange. I think my ideal would be a cross between the Golden Girls and somewhere like Centreparcs so you owned property with female friends but had your own privacy and space.
 
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shadowcat5

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On the topic of friends giving up all of who they are when they're in a relationship. I've never known that happen with a man. It always seems like they carry on as normal. Same with having kids. It seems like women give up everything but men can still go to the pub twice a week, football on saturday, golf on sunday like they did when they were child free.
 
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sleepflowers

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I think I can kind of put myself as 50% single by choice, 50% not! I have never had a serious relationship, been on dates here and there but I find the whole thing deeply uncomfortable, like I feel really nervy if a man gives me attention - which is very rare anyway. All these dates have been from dating apps - no one has approached me IRL ever. I am generally a very independent person, mostly because I haven't had a boyfriend and have lived away from friends so I've had to get used to doing everything on my own. I like my own space and go a bit mad if I can't have that alone time to keep to my routine. And that's not even getting into the absolute state of men nowadays! I genuinely don't fancy many men. They're lazy slobs and put no effort into their appearance.

Yet at 30 I am of course surrounded by friends getting married and having long term boyfriends etc. They can say otherwise but people do absolutely prioritise men over their friends all the time. I do feel very left out and like a massive loser when talking to other women my age as I have nothing to contribute, and I would love someone who genuinely appreciates me. I'm not that bothered about having kids but a dual income and some moral support would be nice!! People think you're really weird if you get to this age without ANY experience. I know I'm an acquired taste though, and most men don't want the 'baggage' of dealing with someone who has been single their whole life at this age...it's hard finding one who wants to go slow.
 
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sleepflowers

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I have what some people think is a pretty radical view that romantic love is a complete fraud and lie for most women because there simply aren't enough good men to go around for all of us to have. As you all say, I know a few people with great partners. But I know those men pair off quickly and most do not match up to them, so there's none left for the rest of us. It's all very well saying 'there's someone out there for everyone' but IMO that's a false platitude.
 
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AshMay

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I live with a friend who is absolutely wonderful but obsessed with dating and is never not on the apps, in talking stages, or seeing someone. And then she'll always be talking about men or texting them constantly even while spending time with me/others. I admire her persistence and get that she wants to find her person and have kids etc, and sometimes it's fun to get the gossip since I don't actively date myself.... but overall I just don't get it?? 😭 I don't find it interesting talking about mediocre men all the time or it infringing on quality time. Plus I like home to feel like a sanctuary so I cba with random men being in the house ruining the energy 😂 (as much as I appreciate it's her home too). But yeah, I just don't get it when people centre men so heavily!!!
 
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newtoyou

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I like how this is extending to people who just like being alone in general 😂 I know a couple of people who can’t stand to be alone, I feel sorry for them. Someone I know recently spent their first night alone in their house in 30 years!
 
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Zenchick101

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ladies as I am currently enjoying peacefully building my little dream life by myself I thought this recent tinder experience might be worth reposting here:
I just learned last night that one of the guys I hooked up with last year has a long distance girlfriend he cheated on twice last year (once with me). This is someone who is attractive, physically took care of himself, paid for the date without flinching, and who apart from the surprisingly really bad intimacy, I would have thought was an all around decent dating option. I am not the kind of person who does this stuff, I don't know that guys girlfriend.. (no way to tell her). This is not the first time someone has tried to cheat on their girlfriend/wife with me (last year I found two gems like that on Tinder).

I'm just saying being single - not so bad. Love yourself first and foremost.

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Personally last time I was in a relationship? I had to sacrifice everything, what I ate, couldn't only have the food I wanted in the house, I was treated like a slave, he was the dirtiest person around and didn't clean up to extreme levels, he cheated a bunch, he was abusive, I needed a therapist afterwards.. 3 years later I'm in my career, I've exponentially grown financially, lost 25 pounds, grown back hair (I had bald spots from being abused in my mid twenties), skin looks refreshed, I have more friends, I sleep peacefully, I travel. No one asks me to cook, clean for them.. My stress level is down.
 
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Sunflower91

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I feel a lot more at ease being single.
When I was 15 I started dating, my first bf and I dated two years and he didn’t treat me well- there was a lot of mind games. Once we split up I had a couple of dates and then met someone at 18- we dated almost 6 years and he was a mentally abusive arsehole who proposed to another girl whilst with me. After that I went on a couple of dates but it made me so anxiety ridden I decided to just work on myself for 5 years. I met someone last year and we dated 6 months but he was probably one of the most covertly selfish people ever, always hot and cold so I never knew where I stood. We split up and to be honest since then I haven’t been bothered to date. I think in part it’s an anxiety/ fear of getting hurt thing but also I don’t feel like I’m missing out on anything. I have friends, my own house, family around me and so much flexibility to do my own thing without having to run it by someone or feel like I’m compromising on my me time. I like my own company. It does get awkward with family that don’t understand though- I’ve had questions about my sexuality, tell me my clock is ticking etc and that bothers me a lot more than being single.
 
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BanditHealer

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Last night while watching TV, I had a brief thought that I'd like a partner to bring me snacks and drinks while I sat down, but then I realised that I actually want to win the euromillions on Friday and have a housekeeper and personal chef.
 
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Zenchick101

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I don't know.. relationships are weird man. I got out of something earlier this year with a man who initially pursued me when I didn't care about being in a relationship. That relationship happened when I swore to the universe I was prioritizing myself and done actively looking for someone. The relationship was great till he started taking me for granted and mistreating me which seems like a common theme in heterosexual relationships. But coming out of it it's like the rose-colored glasses are coming off and I'm remembering how I actually enjoy focusing on me and my time alone. I'm not opposed to being in a relationship but I'm not actively looking for one. I have goals and interests I want to pursue more.
 
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mousey

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It’s so refreshing to see so many like-minded people. I’m reading every post like “yes, YES, me too!”
 
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hehehe

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It would be interesting to see more non standard ways of living that weren’t strange. I think my ideal would be a cross between the Golden Girls and somewhere like Centreparcs so you owned property with female friends but had your own privacy and space.
They have this in South Korea -- single women communities. Financially secure mostly young women, but all ages welcome. It sounds perfect.
 
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qqwertyy

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I saw a post from someone saying that she’d fallen a bit too deep into hating men and it was blocking her energy from manifesting a good partner.

I do kind of get it but at the same time, it feels like we’re blaming ourselves again when we’re just responding to men’s behaviour. The ‘man-hating’ hasn’t come out of nowhere, it’s a consequence of their actions, and it’s generally more fear - not just physically, but fear of being hurt, cheated on, emotionally damaged etc. - than hate.

I wish I didn’t dislike men but time and time again I am shown why I do, even though I do know some lovely men.
 
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Wynonna

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I feel more at peace and I sleep better when I'm single or don't have a romantic interest.

It upsets me when I hear stories about women whose husbands have cheated, left them for someone else or just simply walked out with no warning.
I also hate hearing about women whose boyfriends/partners string them along for years without getting engaged, then they split and he marries someone else 6 months later.

I still believe in true love and romance, but I think that is sadly rare, especially in this modern world. I will just stick with the fantasy of old romance films, books and songs, etc.

Since I was a child I have always dreamed of living alone in a seaside town.
I even used to daydream being a single mum at one point. Not sure what that says about me. I think it's because my own parents used to argue and cheat all the time. A life without all that drama sounds more peaceful and happier for myself and especially the child.
 
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dinosaursideways

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Guys, I feel only you would understand how stupid this is. Long story short I was on this free counselling site talking about the fact that I think I’ve developed feelings for someone for the first time in my life (it’s a no go btw). I explained that I’ve never had these feelings and had been happily single forever. And the person replied “you need to get married” (not to this person I like, just in general). And “it’s the only solution” 🤣 Great, thanks.
My (way past retirement age, white, male) GP said nearly the same thing word for word when I had an appointment with him to discuss my deteriorating mental health due to past and recent trauma. "I just want to see you back here in a year's time married and with a baby". 🤢🤬 a year later and I am not, in fact, married and pregnant and am, instead, diagnosed with complex PTSD and on the waiting list for Step 4 NHS mental health care. A relationship/children was not the solution I was in need of.

Happy to have been signposted to this thread from the dating one and find some solidarity!!!
 
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Wolfshead

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I second the dating fear. I am useless socially anyway so there's that but it's also the whole who pays thing i cba with.

The only time I would want a relationship is at the weekend. I do enjoy doing everything alone but it'd be nice to have someone to do something big with. Exploring ne w places and day trips are great alone but it'd be nice to do something with someone sometimes (I don't have friends where I live, they all live far away). The other thing is it'd be nice to have someone to share my day with once I'm home from work. I like going home to the peace but it would be nice occasionally to go home and offload to someone. Then I think about having to tell someone what I'm doing or having to bend to someone else's schedule and I'm like yeah never mind. As nice as it'd be to have someone to spend the odd weekend with, the thought of having to give my weekend to spend at weddings or family parties and shit is a no lmao.
I think the best relationship I ever had was a weekend one. I'd look forward to seeing him on Friday nights, we'd have a lovely weekend together and then I'd very happily see him off on a Sunday night or early Monday morning. Seeing him every day was a big mistake and basically ended our lovely relationship. I need a LOT of alone time!

I had no idea that a thread was created!

Reading everybody's stories when it comes to men further confirms my will to stay far away from them.

Since I work in a male dominated field I have no problem to meet guys but I am always sick to see the difference in terms of maturity. Their homes are disgusting, they have poor hygiene, have alcohol or drugs problems.

At this point, dating a guy would literally destroy some women's quality of life.
Count me among them!

To be honest, while I agree with the general sentiment about most men being gross, I have quite a high proportion of non-gross male friends and still haven't ever dated any of them. With some there's an obvious reason for that (gay, married, too old/young), but even with the single ones where I love them very much and there's enough mutual attraction to have a FWB relationship I just don't feel any particular desire to move into a house with them, meet their families, insist they don't shag anyone else etc etc. I like spending the occasional evening snuggling on the sofa to watch a film together, but that's about as far as it goes in terms of romatic feelings 🤷‍♀️
I completely agree. In fact, I think that not only is a "conventional" relationship not for me, but I think many people (especially women) would be much happier without the whole marriage/kids/dog/white picket fence myth. The trouble is, especially for older women, men tend to want a housekeeper cum slave rather than a partner. To quote a woman I once met in an airport (she was in her 80s and was returning from a hiking holiday in the Himalayan foothills) "All men want a mummy they can f*&%". Her other memorable quote was, "I still feel like I'm 15 - imagine my surprise when I catch sight of myself in a mirror!".
 
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Tell.A.Tale

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I’ve deleted my accounts on the apps today. I’m still not sure if I’m single by choice BUT I am starting to care less what people think about it which I think is a step in the right direction!
This was a big realisation for me. I didn’t like being the “single” one. I also felt I got left out when there were couples dinners and couples weekends away. I realised I wanted a relationship for the social aspect and because that’s what society expects. I didn’t actually want one though. When I dipped my toe in, I felt so drained by it. By all of it: Their presence in my space (physical / emotional / mental). The obligation to message daily and call and fain interest in their jobs and lives.

I am genuinely so much happier on my own, in my own space. And I’m not a hermit. I’m a very social person. I feed off others (postive) energy. I just don’t want a relationship. I mean maybe one where we see each other once or twice a week and never live together. I could *maybe* see the appeal in that but then, I have completely lost all interest in sex. Not sure if it’s age / perimenopause but could think of nothing I would rather do less, so really I don’t think my once or twice a week / not live together / not have sex criteria is going to appeal to anyone! And I am actually 100% ok with that.
 
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