I don’t think he is dead
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not-a-medical-Dr Jessica Taylor monetising the Russell Brand and David Walliams news is disgusting. She forced her vulnerable employees to sign an NDA to stop them whistle blowing. She threatened survivors of sexual abuse to sue them for “every single one of their assets” if they spoke up. She is one of the most dangerous people in the VAWG sector and does so much harm to women and girls.
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Depends on your view on the Government. I feel pretty confident not one of them knows their a from their elbow let alone has the best interests of the country in hand (in anything they do). Bunch of self-interested chances.
I'm not sure IS is in a position to 'take action' against her in Syria. She's in the Al Roj camp which mainly houses women and children many of which are foreign nationals in the same position as she is. Even so it was reported that some of those who have stopped wearing the niqab etc have been attacked and rely on protection from the guards.Isn't it odd that IS are aware of her change of heart ,even speaking out against their regime and yet have taken no action against her
Legally a Home Secretary can revoke someone's citizenship. It has been done many times.
I haven't watched the interview but I assume that she feels she has intelligence that could help the UK government not that she will become a member of MI5! In truth I very much doubt that she knows anything that the UK government doesn't know already. As Sajid Javid said today it was intelligence about her activities that made revoking her citizenship an easy decision.
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Tbh I think IS can do what they like when they like, I've seen them taking a leather strap and beating a poor woman ( in public ) for showing too much ankle ,if they wanted Begum she's there for the taking.
She is a risk. How can you ever be sure she has lost those ideals and would overcome what she did and saw? She can stay there.
I haven't watched today's interview either but just wanted to add that on the documentary I watched about the camp a lot of the women housed there were apparently hard line Isis members (Hesba) who policed the camp and punished women who now denounced Isis, they set tents on fire with people in them which killed people including children which is horrific so I do find it a little odd that Shamina is there in her vest and make up begging to come back, if genuine she is putting herself in a very dangerous position. I wonder if that's possibly the point - to get to the point where she needs to be "saved"?
But where is IS? Not in North West Syria.
Interview on the BBC too.
www.bbc.co.uk
Looks like a coordinated charm offensive to me. Who is backing her and arranging the interviews for her?
Former IS teenage bride Shamima Begum offers to help fight terror in UK
The 22-year-old, who left London at 15 to join the Islamic State group, says she could be useful.
www.bbc.co.uk
Looks like a coordinated charm offensive to me. Who is backing her and arranging the interviews for her?
this is the main issue imo, proving what she did/fdidn't do is so hard
She seems to be saying things she thinks the British public want to hear. We see straight through it. If she was honest she might have a chance. If she said, yes, I was influenced, thought it was exciting, glamorous, grown up, getting attention from adults when I was being ignored and treated like a kid at home. I knew they were killing innocent people before I went there but only realised the horror when i was there in reality.
I don't think she has the intelligence to cause harm in Britain on her own but the problem is she can be used by terrorists, maybe without even fully realising. And maybe she doesn't have the capacity to feel empathy, many people don't. Maybe that's why she didn't care about being a terrorist.
I wouldn't be surprised if some mega lefty stumps up the cash to get her a top lawyer.
I don't think she has the intelligence to cause harm in Britain on her own but the problem is she can be used by terrorists, maybe without even fully realising. And maybe she doesn't have the capacity to feel empathy, many people don't. Maybe that's why she didn't care about being a terrorist.
I wouldn't be surprised if some mega lefty stumps up the cash to get her a top lawyer.
but not someone who has no other citizenship, they have sent people back yes, but not someone who has not been borrn elsewhere
WHY does she want to return anyway? It’s not as if she’ll have any quality of life. She might get by with a new identity but I doubt she’d maintain it. Why wouldn’t she approach another country where she’s less known, less hated and start over there, humbly and peacefully?
My guess, along with all the publicity currently happening, she wants fame. She wants the book deals and documentaries. I think she’s m a complete narc and knows exactly what she’s doing.
My guess, along with all the publicity currently happening, she wants fame. She wants the book deals and documentaries. I think she’s m a complete narc and knows exactly what she’s doing.
Yes there is undoubtedly a proportion of women in the camps loyal to IS ideology, they are run by the Syrian Defence Force. Begum isn't the only inhabitant of the camp to reject IS and the niqab etc and presumably they are segregated within the camp.
I agree, I worked in this area (of islamic terrorism) for a whille and tbh I think there HAS to have been some element of her extended family/friends/wider network either totally naive/ complicit or just not explicitly condeming groups like ISIS
Yes it’s against human rights to make someone stateless, which javid has. I understood she was appealing it and haven’t heard the outcomes of that? I assumed she’d win since it’s obviously illegal to make her stateless
I think in criticising her I think we do need to remember she’s very young, with little idea how the media works, but also no idea what is genuinely being said about her here, and what public feeling is.
If it is a charm offensive it’s a immature and obvious one because what else can she do? She hardly has the skills to execute a successful PR campaign to change public opinion.
She has certain opportunities and she may not be using them the right way, but she’s not then polished media trained person we are used to seeing on tv. She’s clueless.
I think in criticising her I think we do need to remember she’s very young, with little idea how the media works, but also no idea what is genuinely being said about her here, and what public feeling is.
If it is a charm offensive it’s a immature and obvious one because what else can she do? She hardly has the skills to execute a successful PR campaign to change public opinion.
She has certain opportunities and she may not be using them the right way, but she’s not then polished media trained person we are used to seeing on tv. She’s clueless.
Who is IS you mean! They’re everyone from young kids to the elderly, anyone that’s a sympathiser is a risk .I remember reading about Kurdish authorities fearing these camps were breeding grounds for a new generation of militants where their mothers were feeding them nothing but propaganda ,using dolls to show how a beheading is carried out, their home countries don’t want them back because of the danger they pose the kids have been so radicalised.If Begum were truly speaking out against them she’d be at more risk in that camp than she would be on the outside, something doesn’t ring true about it all .
But the UK government's position is that she did have other citizenship i.e. Bangladeshi citizenship through her parents. There is a legal basis for that position as the UK government has both won and lost other appeals on deprivation of citizenship on the same facts that they are now relying upon. Begum is of course still seeking to appeal the overall decision to revoke her citizenship but the 'statelessness' argument has already been rejected by SIAC and her lawyers chose not to appeal that finding.
I think it's because the family she left behind are still here.
Her and her two friends weren't the first from her school to be radicalised, another girl called Sharmeena Begum went a few months before them - she was close good friends with Kadeeza Sultana (one of the other two girls who died) apparently they were all radicalised by the Sisters Forum. Sharmeena is also missing presumed dead - i would think that while the Sisters Forum was the instigator the girls probably then radicalised each other to an extent in the way that teenage girls do.
My understanding of the legal position is that legally the Home Secretary can't revoke citizenship if it leaves an individual stateless. However Ms Begum has an alternative citizenship with Bangladesh, and the fact she doesn't want that citizenship is legally irrelevant. She has the opportunity and is in effect not stateless. Basically the UK moved before Bangladesh.
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