Shamima Begum

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You cannot be groomed into finding beheading videos attractive.
Didn't this girl seek out this regime ? from what I know of her she lived a very normal life in the UK ,why would she go out of her way to educate herself unless she had an interest in it 🤷‍♀️ I thought her husband said she sought him out and not the other way round ..
 
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Is being part of an illegal organisation not a chargeable offence ? A guy that lives near me went to Syria and pics were posted on FB of him mixing with the wrong people( shall we say) and the minute he returned home he was taken into custody and a court case ensued but because they had no proof and he denied it the case was dropped ...Has she ever appeared on film admitting she's part of such an organisation ?
You can be charged with being a member of isis (it’s not, I don’t think, a massively serious charge compared to ie murder) but the police have already said its next to impossible to gather evidence from a war zone. Being a threat to national security isn’t always the same as being a criminal
 
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You can be charged with being a member of isis (it’s not, I don’t think, a massively serious charge compared to ie murder) but the police have already said its next to impossible to gather evidence from a war zone. Being a threat to national security isn’t always the same as being a criminal
Prison would probably be the cheaper option for them,think of the money it'll take to have 24 hr security for her .I couldn't see many welcoming her back ..
 
Didn't this girl seek out this regime ? from what I know of her she lived a very normal life in the UK ,why would she go out of her way to educate herself unless she had an interest in it 🤷‍♀️ I thought her husband said she sought him out and not the other way round ..
It’s a chicken and egg scenario. Living a “normal” life could be anything and is completely subjective. My normal is different to your normal, which is then different to joe blogg’s normal.

playing devil’s advocate, even if she did type “how do I find a husband that belongs to ISIS” on google, we can’t forget she was 14 years old and she fell through the gaps. If she did have an interest in it, I wonder why she had an interest in it? What happened for it to be on her radar? I suppose the husband would say she sought him out and it wasn’t the other way round. That’s his truth. I wonder what is her truth. No one will ever know the real truth.
 
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It’s a chicken and egg scenario. Living a “normal” life could be anything and is completely subjective. My normal is different to your normal, which is then different to joe blogg’s normal.

playing devil’s advocate, even if she did type “how do I find a husband that belongs to ISIS” on google, we can’t forget she was 14 years old and she fell through the gaps. If she did have an interest in it, I wonder why she had an interest in it? What happened for it to be on her radar? I suppose the husband would say she sought him out and it wasn’t the other way round. That’s his truth. I wonder what is her truth. No one will ever know the real truth.
Yeah it's strange how it all started for her ? how would she have come under the husbands radar in the first place, in the interview he did he said he didn't even meet her till she went to Syria and then she was asking for eligible men to view so she could choose a partner ? she seemed to have a normal upbringing in the UK that we know of, so why seek out that sort life .I grew up through the dark days of the troubles and I can safely say for us growing up we might have saw things that others would find hard to stomach, but we knew that violence was wrong from an early age and there was no sympathy for the taking of life ,unless that was your thing..
 
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Didn't this girl seek out this regime ? from what I know of her she lived a very normal life in the UK ,why would she go out of her way to educate herself unless she had an interest in it 🤷‍♀️ I thought her husband said she sought him out and not the other way round ..
That’s what I read. From what she’s said in her past interview, she went over there willingly because she wanted to marry and start a family, and her parents wouldn’t help her to get married in the UK at that time.
 
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That’s what I read. From what she’s said in her past interview, she went over there willingly because she wanted to marry and start a family, and her parents wouldn’t help her to get married in the UK at that time.
The husband was interviewed on the BBC and that's exactly what he said ,she was 15 and he was 23 he said she was of completely sound mind and knew exactly what she was looking for 🤷‍♀️ of all the places in the world to choose why go to Syria ????

She's British, born in Britain, therefore should be allowed to return, to face trial.
Trial for what ? someone said they can't prove anything in a war zone
 
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She foisted herself onto them. Also note the drug smuggling grandmother in Bali, they don’t want to give her back to the U.K.
She didn’t foist herself on Bangladesh though, did she? And that’s the whole basis the UK government has for revoking her UK citizenship; that she can get Bangladeshi citizenship and won’t be left stateless. She doesn’t and has never lived in Bangladesh so why should they be burdened with her? Doesn’t really seem fair to that nation, does it?

She did foist herself on a nation that has been torn apart by a brutal and bloody war. She can’t and won’t face justice there. UK should be taking her back and dealing with her here.

I don’t have sympathy for this person but It is not fair or right that the U.K. is doing this.

What’s the Bali grandmother got
To do with this case? It’s not, in any way, a comparable situation. Bali isn’t a war torn country, she committed a crime there and they tried her and sentenced her there. Why would the UK government intervene?

Don’t think I have great sympathy for her; if she could be tried fairly and sentenced in Syria that would be enough. But she can't. So she should be allowed back here and dealt with in our courts.
 
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The husband was interviewed on the BBC and that's exactly what he said ,she was 15 and he was 23 he said she was of completely sound mind and knew exactly what she was looking for 🤷‍♀️ of all the places in the world to choose why go to Syria ????


Trial for what ? someone said they can't prove anything in a war zone
23 and married a 15 year old. What a p
 
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The husband was interviewed on the BBC and that's exactly what he said ,she was 15 and he was 23 he said she was of completely sound mind and knew exactly what she was looking for 🤷‍♀️ of all the places in the world to choose why go to Syria ????


Trial for what ? someone said they can't prove anything in a war zone
For joining a terror group, while being in the UK.
 
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Nobody seems to mention, that she was groomed online, the school ignored the warnings, social services ignored the warnings. Let's use this as example, if someone was groomed by Epstein, went out and recruited more people for Epstein's grooming gang, would you blame the woman, or the person, who was doing the grooming?
 
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And they were victims of grooming
There was never any accusations or charges from either party so we can only guess like in this case..

Nobody seems to mention, that she was groomed online, the school ignored the warnings, social services ignored the warnings. Let's use this as example, if someone was groomed by Epstein, went out and recruited more people for Epstein's grooming gang, would you blame the woman, or the person, who was doing the grooming?
There was nothing to say she was groomed online like someone else said she wanted to find a husband that's why she left ? Begums words ..
 
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