Yeah it's weird, there's loads of over there. Women of a similar age as well and they're just largely ignored.I'm kind of surprised with how much publicity she has got tbh, with everything else going on...
Yeah it's weird, there's loads of over there. Women of a similar age as well and they're just largely ignored.I'm kind of surprised with how much publicity she has got tbh, with everything else going on...
Well she alone chose to give an interview when discovered, and an absolute car crash it was, minimum remorse, maximum entitlement.I'm kind of surprised with how much publicity she has got tbh, with everything else going on...
Yeh, and with everything about Ukraine, economic crises etc I thought she would have just ended up forgotten about tbhYeah it's weird, there's loads of over there. Women of a similar age as well and they're just largely ignored.
Well she alone chose to give an interview when discovered, and an absolute car crash it was, minimum remorse, maximum entitlement.
And at that point she became a media figure and public opinion split into two camps. Those that felt sorry for her and felt that she was “a victim too”. And sane people.
Unfortunately it is the victim too camp who will not let it lie. And let her rot. Because you can’t reason with people on a righteous crusade…..
That's suspicious in itself imo...She also said in an interview that she was terrified of the other women in the camp, yet is giving interviews (from the camp ) where she's apparenly going against ISIS and all that they stand forYeah it's weird, there's loads of over there. Women of a similar age as well and they're just largely ignored.
No way on this earth can she be terrified of the other woman in the camp the way she gives out interviews left right and centre. She’s scarier now she’s older then when she was 15. She’s older, seen more, experienced more, knows the wrong people ect. No way can she be allowed back into the UK.That's suspicious in itself imo...She also said in an interview that she was terrified of the other women in the camp, yet is giving interviews (from the camp ) where she's apparenly going against ISIS and all that they stand for![]()
Correct me if I’m wrong but is going against the grain something you’d do if you were living in fearNo way on this earth can she be terrified of the other woman in the camp the way she gives out interviews left right and centre. She’s scarier now she’s older then when she was 15. She’s older, seen more, experienced more, knows the wrong people ect. No way can she be allowed back into the UK.
I believe she is one of a number of women who have abandoned the strict Islamic rules, for example they wear western clothes and use make-up. That group are subject to attack from the women who remain more 'faithful' to ISIS and are segregated and protected by the camp guards.That's suspicious in itself imo...She also said in an interview that she was terrified of the other women in the camp, yet is giving interviews (from the camp ) where she's apparenly going against ISIS and all that they stand for![]()
Who is paying her legal team I wonder?I believe she is one of a number of women who have abandoned the strict Islamic rules, for example they wear western clothes and use make-up. That group are subject to attack from the women who remain more 'faithful' to ISIS and are segregated and protected by the camp guards.
In my opinion, it is an understandable that she gives interviews etc and that news about the possible death sentence is highlighted in the media because she has to try to elicit some degree of sympathy and public opinion that she should be allowed back into the UK while she continues her appeal. Almost certainly a lost cause, especially with this government but I think her legal team feel they have no other choice.
Could be pro bono lawyers, though one article suggests it is legal aid which is controversial given she's not in the country and on the edge of losing her British citizenshipWho is paying her legal team I wonder?
freemovement.org.uk
She has already lost her citizenship but she qualifies for legal aid to challenge the decision.Could be pro bono lawyers, though one article suggests it is legal aid which is controversial given she's not in the country and on the edge of losing her British citizenship
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Shamima Begum, legal aid and access to justice - Free Movement
On 19 July 2020, Boris Johnson announced that the government would review legal aid rules in light of a Court of Appeal judgment requiring the government tofreemovement.org.uk
Do you think they could have a case if they play on the trafficked story, seems a bit suss that it’s appearing now.![]()
Shamima Begum: Spy for Canada smuggled schoolgirl to Syria
Mohammed Al Rasheed says he shared her passport details with Canada as UK police hunted for her.www.bbc.co.uk
BBC now appear to be white knighting Begum.
You are a monster Shamima. And a religious bigot.
The job of the barrister is to represent their client. They will be pursuing the “trafficked” angle like a Pitbull on a meaty leg. Of course it depends on the definition of trafficking. There can be little doubt she used intermediaries to get to Syria, but “trafficking” implies that she did not consent, didn’t know where she was going, for what purpose, and was held there against her will. None of these apply to Begum as far as I know the background of the case.Do you think they could have a case if they play on the trafficked story, seems a bit suss that it’s appearing now.
What “intervention” do you think was appropriate?Denying Begum a trial in a British court is a win-win for the British government. Putting feelings about Begum and her crimes aside for a minute, consider this; we already have information (albeit limited) that the police were aware that students in Begum's school. And without a doubt, there was a litany of failures’ by the local council, police and school in the lead up to the Bethnal trio's departure for the Islamic State. If this case was heard a British court of law, it would be reasonable to presume that the defence would dig deeper into these failures, presenting indisputable evidence that the authorities failed to intervene on several occasions. It would put the actions (or lack there of) of British counter-terrorism policing into the spotlight, highlighting failures & incompetency whilst undermine any credibility that the unit has.
By denying Begum an opportunity to defend herself in a UK court, the Government has won the support of the British public who are (understandably) angry at Begum's actions AND they can also avoid having their own failures scrutinised in front of a wide audience.
She hasn't been denied an opportunity to defend herself in a UK court. Through her lawyers she has and continues to mount an appeal against deprivation of her citizenship in UK courts. She has been denied the opportunity to return to the UK.Denying Begum a trial in a British court is a win-win for the British government. Putting feelings about Begum and her crimes aside for a minute, consider this; we already have information (albeit limited) that the police were aware that students in Begum's school. And without a doubt, there was a litany of failures’ by the local council, police and school in the lead up to the Bethnal trio's departure for the Islamic State. If this case was heard a British court of law, it would be reasonable to presume that the defence would dig deeper into these failures, presenting indisputable evidence that the authorities failed to intervene on several occasions. It would put the actions (or lack there of) of British counter-terrorism policing into the spotlight, highlighting failures & incompetency whilst undermine any credibility that the unit has.
By denying Begum an opportunity to defend herself in a UK court, the Government has won the support of the British public who are (understandably) angry at Begum's actions AND they can also avoid having their own failures scrutinised in front of a wide audience.