Serial Killers?

[Prodcon21]

The Rettendon Range Rover Murders facinate me too.. i think because a lot of places the victims worked at went are places i know or went as a teen.
My husband remembers Tony Tucker being the bouncer at Hollywoods nightclub in Romford, old work colleagues ex got on the wrong side of Pat Tate and had to go into hiding.
Have you read Bloggs 19 book by Darren Nichols ? Its quite a good read although slightly unbelievable in places !
There is theory the police shot them as Leah Betts Dad was ex firearms officer!

Also fascinated by this case. Have read a few books - Nichols, O’Mahoney and Leach to name a few.

Have enjoyed all the films and documentaries too - Rise of the Footsoldier was good (the sequels not so much!)

I don’t think it was Whomes and Steele though....

 

[Gembo]

Just watched the Netflix documentary on this

Thank you for reminding me about that Im going to give it a watch. It baffles and terrifies me that someone could do this to their family

 

[Prodcon21]

do you mean mae west? im getting it for christmas.

Yeah - I’m that’s the one

 

[iloveanimals]

what channel was this on? I might give it a watch.
they should have never been allowed to be around each other, both so evil and they probably got thrills from that.

it was itv should be in the catch up

 

[Mememe9]

The Rettendon Range Rover Murders facinate me too.. i think because a lot of places the victims worked at went are places i know or went as a teen.
My husband remembers Tony Tucker being the bouncer at Hollywoods nightclub in Romford, old work colleagues ex got on the wrong side of Pat Tate and had to go into hiding.
Have you read Bloggs 19 book by Darren Nichols ? Its quite a good read although slightly unbelievable in places !
There is theory the police shot them as Leah Betts Dad was ex firearms officer!

I personally believe it was the police. They were too much of a drag on society so the police did it to get rid of them once and for all. Took the word of a self confessed liar and put Steele and whome in prison so they took the rap for it. Perfect cover up. There are videos on YouTube where you can hear the calls going into 999 and the conversations between the police are very strange considering what had just happened. Worth a listen. As awful as this sounds if you google there’s a website where you can see there bodies in the mortuary. Absolutely horrific and I just thought these kind of pictures would never be accessible. Another reason i am led to believe the police were involved

 

[Lulu Goss]

I read about the Jeffrey Dahmer case for the first time last week and couple believe it. That poor guy (child?) who died because the police believed they were just having a “lovers tiff”...

I’ve always been interested in the Fred and Rose West case, although it seems such a grim thing to be interested in. Can anyone recommend any books?

 

[zooping]

Ohhh love this thread!!
Just finished the Chris watts documentary last night, I’ve listened to a lot of podcasts on it so knew all the info and it still brought me to tears, disgusting man.

i think i first realised I had an interest in serial killers when we had an assembly at school with Richard McCann, he was the son of one of the Yorkshire rippers victims. My boyfriend ended up living in a uni flat on the same street as one of the attacks of the Yorkshire ripper too, he wasn’t impressed when I told him!!

 

[Dont swipe up!]

It’s on sky documentaries In the UK, I watched it on NOWTV but sky may have a catch up service. Looks like in America it’s a ‘showtime’ show, available on amazon through that.
“Active Shooter: America under fire” is the full name of the series

I’m from the UK so will try sky thank you x

 

[Gembo]

Is he still sticking with the story that she killed the children and so he killed her?

No he confessed to killing them. He said one girl watched him kill her sister then ask if he was going to do the same to her. Unbelievable that people like that walk amongst us, he’s the definition of a monster. Still hasn’t shown any remorse from what I can gather.

 

[Dont swipe up!]

Not serial killer as such but for anyone with a morbid fascination I recommend ‘active shooter’ - it’s on NOWTV May be on YouTube.
I’ve been obsessed with serial killers since I was about 8 years old and found my uncles true crime magazines, they also lived just by Cranley Gardens where Dennis Nielsen had been so I’m pretty unfazed at this stage.
‘Active shooter’ is frankly fucking horrific. It’s Fascinating and a good reminder that these are real people with real victims and it’s not about entertainment or curiosity but understanding (or not) the human condition. I recommend the one in the Pulse Nightclub shootings particularly.

That said, and I guess it is for entertainment, Casefile podcast is excellent. The Moors murders one is very comprehensive. ‘They walk among us’ is good too for more UK based cases.

Where can I watch active shooter please?

 

[Prince fan 1999]

Yes. Fascination with Fred and Rose West and Jeffrey Dahmer.

Oh and Brady and Hindley. The Levi Bellfield murders happened near me so have that connection.

 

[CrazyGiraffeLady]

I am obsessed with serial killers x

 

[Little Baby Nothing]

Oh wow!! Thanks so much! Iv been toying with the idea for so long but feel like I wouldn’t be clever enough and maybe abit too old to change my career. I’m 35 and I’m cabin crew, but with all this uncertainty Iv been thinking a lot more about changing career. My partner fully supports me in wanting to do something else but I wasn’t sure if I would be capable of doing it, and to be honest didn’t know where to begin. I did look at OU courses but they all seemed so expensive that it put me off. But I will look into it more!! Hope you are enjoying it all!
You should be extremely proud of yourself for just going for it and having the courage to change career, I salute you! Xxx

Thank you.
Definitely never too old, I graduated at 38. The Open University undergraduate courses are exactly the same as university now so student finance will pay the fees with no means testing, not many people realise that. Or if you can afford to drop down to part-time actually going to university is an option, I managed to fit in a part-time job, child and university.

 

[Prodcon21]

i'll have to check out the books by O'Mahoney and Leach - Thanks ..
Rise of the foot soldiers is much better than Essex boys films...Do think that Carlton Leach made Tony Tucker nicer in the film than he was in real life but I suppose you sometimes see good in friends when in reality they are sometimes the opposite!

Bernard O’Mahoney’s ones I’d recommend: Essex boys, Wanna be in my gang and Essex boys the new generation.

He also wrote another good one called The dream solution, but that’s a different topic altogether.

 

[littlepup]

Not serial killer as such but for anyone with a morbid fascination I recommend ‘active shooter’ - it’s on NOWTV May be on YouTube.
I’ve been obsessed with serial killers since I was about 8 years old and found my uncles true crime magazines, they also lived just by Cranley Gardens where Dennis Nielsen had been so I’m pretty unfazed at this stage.
‘Active shooter’ is frankly fucking horrific. It’s Fascinating and a good reminder that these are real people with real victims and it’s not about entertainment or curiosity but understanding (or not) the human condition. I recommend the one in the Pulse Nightclub shootings particularly.

That said, and I guess it is for entertainment, Casefile podcast is excellent. The Moors murders one is very comprehensive. ‘They walk among us’ is good too for more UK based cases.

 

[tsuyu]

Oh yeahh this thread!! hahaha, I was so edgy as a kid, my mum got me a book on serial killers instead of an easter egg one year as I don;t really like chocolate

David Parker Ray (toy box killer) fascinates me, the audio recordings are particularly eerie to listen to.

BTK killer Dennis Rader is another serial killer who interests me, and to think he was caught because of data on a floppy disk linking back to him. I think the case was cold for 10+ years and he tried to stir some interest up within the media by sending them notes which they were able to trace back to him.

 

[CMACJF]

For anyone who might like a read, the whole Chris Watts police file, approx 2000 page, every statement taken etc

Christopher Watts REDACTED FINAL | DocumentCloud

www.documentcloud.org

 

[grumpy-nosy-cow]

Also fascinated by this case. Have read a few books - Nichols, O’Mahoney and Leach to name a few.

Have enjoyed all the films and documentaries too - Rise of the Footsoldier was good (the sequels not so much!)

I don’t think it was Whomes and Steele though....

i'll have to check out the books by O'Mahoney and Leach - Thanks ..
Rise of the foot soldiers is much better than Essex boys films...Do think that Carlton Leach made Tony Tucker nicer in the film than he was in real life but I suppose you sometimes see good in friends when in reality they are sometimes the opposite!

 

[Spider12]

Great thread! Serial killers petrify me but fascinate me. I am a little like some of the posters on here though who say they can’t detach themselves from it and get too emotionally invested. So I probably shouldn’t be on this thread but here I am Currently obsessing about Dennis Neilson after watching Des. Also if anyone is interested and not already on there, this thread is really good to get your brains obsessing. Not directly about serial killers but really interesting....

Missing people or murder cases you want to be solved

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[chandlercheesecake]

One that creeps me out is the Long Island Serial Killer.

I remember reading a "Creepiest thing that happened to you" thread on Reddit, and someone wrote a story of when he and his friends were drunk and walking along Long Island beach in the dark, and they walked past man hauling a large bag or something covered in tarpaulin, the same length as a human body. Not sure how true that was, but it gave me the heebie-jeebies. Especially as I read it at about 1/2am.