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account70032

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She’s done a lot in her career and she can’t be faulted for that fair play she’s making a lot of money and rare beauty has done so well thats something for her to be proud of her but unfortunately her immature weird behaviour distracts from her career and achievements and a lot of the time the only person to blame for that is herself. She could easily not like things but she chooses to like shady stuff which makes her look like the obsessed ex.

She lives with a victim mentality and anyone who constantly says how nice they are and how pure their heart is usually isn’t that nice of a person cause they come across fake. Don’t get me wrong health wise she’s been through a lot and I think it would be hard for anyone to see their ex move on in 2 months and get married when he had been kissing you and all over you 2 months before plus there’s the toxic history of being on and off which can make an unhealthy attachment happen so I’m not saying that wasn’t hard for her to see him move on but it’s the fact that it’s 2024 and she still obsesses over him at times even if it’s out of bitterness she needs to let it go or at least talk to someone privately about it so she can let go and I do think she’s not over him with how much she constantly says she is and I do think she still feels bitter. In the beginning I understood it was hard for her but there comes a point when you have to move on as hard as it is.

It’s embarrassing to be liking shady stuff about your ex especially when she’s meant to be in a relationship now claiming she’s so happy so if that’s true focus on that , be private and mature and not online liking things about your ex. I don’t think she should have social media at all I don’t think it brings out a good side to her and it makes people associate her with Justin all the time with how she behaves online when she shouldn’t want that she should be doing her best to have all that in the past years ago and have people think of her accomplishments when they hear her name and not the constant drama she’s in which she causes a lot of the time.

I’m not fans of Justin and Hailey either I think they’ve all done weird things and I don’t care that they’re celebrities they’re not special. If only Selena would get rid of social media or let her management run it then maybe she can start to properly move forward with her life and help herself mentally.
 
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Yupyupyup

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Early social media when celebs didn't filter what they say was different lol
Definitely, I wish she had grown out of it though but still does it to this day to drum up drama. How so many people see her as completely innocent in all of this baffles me honestly!
 
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They look similar so yes she fits the role if we are just talking about appearance but personally I don’t think Selenas acting is that good I think at times her acting is quite bad but I guess I can’t fully judge her in this role until this film is made and released but in this film she is going to need A LOT of auto tune because Selena can’t sing and have you heard Linda Ronstadt’s voice?!
 
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Bowbow82

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How on earth justin escaped so much scrutiny confuses me too. All the hate goes towards his wife and maybe in his mind he prefers her to get the hate so that he gets away with things or doesn’t have to speak out. Yeah for years some of the names of songs or lyrics do sound like coded messages and if they are their way of speaking to eachother its weird because selena will never move on if she does that and also he’s married so he should know certain things he says are going to look a certain way and come across disrespectful. That whole situation between the three of them is weird.

So many other celebrities have been in relationships with someone for years and it ends and they move on and they don’t associate with their ex anymore or do/say anything that would involve their ex or make people talk about the ex but with these three the drama is always back and forth. They can’t put out songs and interviews talking about their ex etc and then not expect fans to feel a certain way or talk about it. Exactly I get with artists nowadays they write these kind of songs as it’s like the PR dream and these songs with drama can be popular but it’s not healthy and it fuels drama so then when celebrities complain about drama they need to take accountability for what they’re putting out there.

Obviously no relationship/marriage is perfect so I’ve no idea what their relationship is like behind closed doors but I also think he’s problematic , immature and hard work. She signed up for that marrying him cause she knew being his wife would give her more of a career but I can imagine he’s not easy to live with.

If Selena or Justin could actually publicly say why him and Selena ended things in 2018 and why he got married so fast right after to Hailey maybe then the world would have answers and the whole situation could end. Writing songs hinting about things and doing interviews implying things but not actually saying what happened of course fans are going to speculate and they probably always will. Yeah people can say that’s their private business they don’t have to share the reasons but they’ve no problem sharing everything else. I doubt we’ll ever get an answer for that question. Also Selena following Hailey is not good for her mind cause now she’ll be seeing all these posts of Justin and Hailey loved up which might spiral her again so I don’t get why she isn’t looking out for her mental health.
What a great post 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻, you make some really good points.

Now I’m thinking what will happen in the future? Do you think Hailey and her friends will stop with the sly digs now they’ve both come out trying to appear they’re being cordial?

Also, I read before she’s possibly dating Zayn? Is Justin going to have a meltdown or is he over her?
 
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LaraQ

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I watched his house tour on Architectural Digest a while ago and he seemed like a lovely guy and she really does seem to love him.
 
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TalkOfTheGram

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No idea why they broke up, but I wonder if she’s really over Justin.
I get the impression that they were still emailing/text etc., however, I think Hailey getting pregnant probably put an end to that.

She seems really happy and stable in her new relationship.

Something about Hailey is off to me. I get strong rebound vibes.
I can't quite put my finger on it but I get that about Hailey too. She also seems very smug in every tbing she does
 
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account70032

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I cringe at myself getting invested in this whole thing too and just seeing the whole world obsess over it but I think that’s what I find the most bizarre that this drama is never ending there’s always something new and I don’t get why it never stops all these years. If you try avoid it on social media people still bring it up and Selena needs to take accountability for that she literally started some drama and then decides to disappear playing the victim knowing her fans would go crazy and knowing people would receive hate for it which makes me think she enjoys all this. I honestly don’t think she’s well mentally at all because this behaviour from her at her age is an embarrassment and knowing what she’s like by the time she’s 50 she’ll probably still be acting the same way not over Justin. As long as someone keeps her off social media and away from her phone maybe the world can go back to talking about things of actual importance.
 
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I think I might be in the minority here but I had to turn off the documentary halfway through as I thought she came across really badly and the whole thing was infuriating me.

I completely understand that being in the public eye for so many can be mentally destructive and how important it is to show those issues, but I found it very draining the way she was complaining about every little part of her job, from the tour to the press and everything else! I might get backlash for posting this but I watching it I honestly thought… ok this industry is clearly taking a massive toll on you. So maybe it’s not the right industry for you? The girl has millions to her name, maybe it’s time to take a step back and prioritise her mental health as she clearly cannot stand the strain.

She seems like a nice girl but I thought the documentary did her no favours.
I completely agree. Aside from the actual content of the doc, it was just badly made I think. The little snippets of her in what seemed to be a photo shoot and had, I think, her speaking diary entries seemed so manufactured
 
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Heneghs

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Haven’t kept up with her much but whatever she’s doing to her face is having the opposite effect of what she wants! You could tell me she was in her 50s and I wouldn’t argue with you!
She can’t seem to speak, move her mouth or sing with whatever she’s done to that area, be it veneers, or Botox, it’s weird, she can barley open her mouth
 
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Yupyupyup

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430m followers?? I know she's probably the most followed person on insta but some must be bought right....she's not THAT influential
I don’t think bought but definitely a lot of dead/inactive accounts. If insta did another big clean out day I’m sure she’d lose a pretty huge chunk.
 
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Kiwi_Paddy

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Sorry but I don’t class “copying” (they both have very very basic looks anyway, I don’t see anything stand out unique about either of their fashion that could be definitive) outfits from someone as them “not moving on”. Moving on from what exactly? 🤣
From being a desperate Beiber fan. Got to love the internet, those videos are around forever!
 
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lilyannrose

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On one hand Ii do feel for Selena because she clearly has her struggles and is proof that money isn't always the road to happiness but on the other she seems like such hard work. I feel exhausted just from hearing about her daily strifes. Constant drama and she could quit the worst of it by, as the poster above me suggests, ditching social media.

I can't understand how people continue to be so addicted to it when it is actively harming them. It's another drug.
 
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account70032

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I think she’s jealous of some her friends who are in relationships/married. I know not everyone might agree or understand why I’m saying that but things I’ve noticed over time have made me think this. Selena and her team have used her name and fame to build rare beauty and shes doing well in her career she’s successful fair play and you would think that would be her focus instead of drama or seeking attention. It’s such a shame she’s insecure and can be so dramatic with how she acts online it’s a bit weird. I’ve said it before but her mental health and reputation would be a lot better if she wasn’t on social media. She could live a more private and secret life and you would only really see her if she’s doing something for rare beauty or acting.
 
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account70032

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Anyone who would body shame Selena or anyone is wrong 100% and there has been unkind things people who are friends with Hailey have said about selena which is so messed up and not needed. I understand wanting to defend yourself and feeling hurt and like I said before the eyebrow post from Kylie and Hailey aswell as some other posts could easily be see as them being bitchy towards selena and shame on them if that’s the case cause selena didn’t deserve that.

of course she has the right to feel hurt or defend herself and her friends but she’s not always innocent in all this every single time yet her fans try to make her out like she is and sometimes she needs to take accountability for things is the point I was making.

after 5 years of not being with an ex I would be moved on and not write songs about the ex about him replacing me with a girl , not give interviews for years talking about the ex replacing me and not commenting on TikToks that are hating on my ex’s wife encouraging the hate. I would like to think I would be moved on with my life instead of giving any time and energy to irrelevant people who are no longer part of my life.

Selena has a successful makeup brand , her career is going well and thankfully her health seems to ok at the moment to so she should be so focused on all of that instead of being on social media getting involved in drama I’d just ignore all of it’s stupid and pointless not worth my time cause I’d be so moved on. Hailey is probably worried about her skincare brand losing business so is hoping Selena posting all that will make Hailey look good again but if I were Selena I never would of gave my time to any of the drama. Selena needs to think about her mental health and her reputation. She’s built a career for herself she’s achieving things that other celebrities are jealous they haven’t achieved the same success. If I were Selena I would be distancing myself so much from Justin and Hailey not talking about them , not following Hailey. Selena should want people to think of her career when they hear her name not her ex and Hailey.
 
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Yupyupyup

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I don't think Justin seems happier. He seems closed off from everything. All the videos of Justin and Haileys arguments are very telling

I also don't think he would get a divorce even if he didn't love her like he thought he would. He said marriage didn't fix all his issues like he thought it would, and he's also said that he wants to make his marriage last for the sake of his siblings, so they can grow up and see a marriage can last without divorce
To be fair Justin has been through the fame ringer since his mid teens, I think he’s a home bird now and doesn’t like leaving the house/being anywhere paps are/out and about for that reason alone. It’s clear to see the whole fame thing makes him very anxious now, which would make anyone unhappy when they can’t go anywhere without having a camera shoved in their face or hidden in a bush.

Also, I maybb remembering wrong but I’m sure both Hailey and Justin have debunked the “argument” videos, as well as the fact it would be absolutely absurd to think a married couple of 5 years never argue. Also, the general couple don’t have a camera following them whenever they’re out of the house. If a camera followed me and my partner out and about whenever we bicker and no one ever got to see what happens behind closed doors I’m sure everyone would say we shouldn’t be together either 😆
 
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“All” is a massive stretch. Her cringe desperation for a boyfriend isn’t anything to do with her disability 🤣
Her desperation for a boyfriend , her desperation to get married, playing the victim constantly, has to let everyone know all the time that she’s so nice and so happy single but clearly isn’t cause that’s all she talks about , can’t sing and gets annoyed when people realise this , being an attention seeker , still in love with her ex not over him ( in my opinion) and has found any way possible to remind him of her, get her name still connected to him through drama, get hate sent to his wife probably cause she’s bitter towards him still so might feel good to her when anything to with his life gets hate ( yes Justin and Hailey are not perfect or innocent either, I’m sure things they’ve done have hurt Selena but right now I’m just speaking about Selena) and uses lupus and mental health as a way to get away with weird behaviour and anything she does wrong.

Not saying she isn’t allowed have her struggles cause life is tough but she’s very immature for a 31 year old woman it’s cringe. Yes she’s achieved success with rare beauty and fair play to her for using her fame and wealth in a smart way cause I’d like to think anyone in her shoes would do the same thing especially if you know you’re not that talented when it comes to anything else. I’m not saying she’s the worst person in the world I’m sure she has her good qualities and moments too but unfortunately that’s all over shadowed by the weird things she says and does. She can be sly and something very off about her but unfortunately not everyone realises this so she gets away with doing what she wants.
 
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