Selena Gomez

[account70032]

Justin definitely is no an angel and seems like hard work in his own way. Sometimes he sounds like an immature teenager and like he never fully grew up. Getting married when you haven’t dealt with your issues but thinking would fix it is an immature thing to do. Of course I’m sure they argue as a couple but whether that’s a normal amount of arguing after being married for 5 years or whether it’s toxic it’s hard to really know as we don’t see behind closed doors but of course there are moments in public he doesn’t come across well and needs to grow up.

He seems very done with being in the spotlight which I get he had his years of enjoying it and lost interest whereas Hailey seems to be loving it and that’s cause he built his career had his years of fame and she’s only starting so she is enjoying attention with paparazzi so maybe that affects their relationship who knows but they’re married and that’s something Selenas super fans and even Selena at times can’t seem to get over.

Her and Justin weren’t good for each other mentally or physically they are better apart and I hope Selena truly has accepted that cause she should be wanting her name to be associated to what she’s achieved with work but like someone else said on here she seems to always want to talks about breakups, relationships and marriage like that’s what she sees her worth in it’s sad . End of the day all these celebrities can have their faults and weird behaviours so why some people idolise them I don’t understand.

 

[whatstheteab]

Couldn’t find a separate thread for Selena and thought it would be interesting to make one with the release of her new documentary.

Any thoughts?

 

[Yupyupyup]

Don't blame her for sticking up for herself tbh

I do when she knew that her doing that online would cause a hate mob for girls that have nothing to do with it other than being associated with Justin.
My point wasn’t that she shouldn’t stick up for herself, but that if she’s aware this is how her fans pounce and attack other women then she should make the conscious and responsible decision to direct the anger elsewhere like a therapy session or to her good friends. She’s not totally innocent in the bashing brigade.

 

[account70032]

Do you think Selena is pissed she didn't think of the lip gloss holder phone case first?

Seeing as she makes herself a permanent victim in every situation I wouldn’t be surprised at all if she found a way to be pissed or upset about the lip gloss holder which would be ridiculous and she would probably need to declare another 8 minute break from instagram to get over it.

 

[ggukxo]

Yes Francia gave her a kidney but she/everyone else shouldn’t get to throw that in Selena’s face for the rest of her life. She chose to do it and could have said no.

Halfway through the documentary at the moment and Selena comes off as very immature. It’s almost like she is stuck in her teens and doesn’t know how to respond to things like an adult

 

[Kiwi_Paddy]

Early social media when celebs didn't filter what they say was different lol
That thread actually makes their relationship adorable. They started at as young friends and grew together. Selena is the only one in the situation who hasn't moved on nor grown up. No one wants to see your drama publicly posted online. If she wasn't famous she would be considered weird and cringe.

And Hailey has not moved on either. She is is like the girl who got the star quarterback after his heyday in high school and still is obsessed with his cheerleader ex. Quite pathetic.

 

[TalkOfTheGram]

I was a MASSIVE Bieber girlie back in the day, but couldn't take to any of the Disney stars like Miley, Demi or Selena so never followed them despite them being constantly shoved down everyone's throats. I've never understood the Selena hype because to me she's a terrible singer. She's always come across as sickly sweet and trying to hard ro be perfect. Her and justin seemed like an odd couple at the time but I guess being older now and looking back it's easy to see that they were 2 young very famous people in probably their 1st serious(ish) relationship.
Justin needs to tell people to leave Hailey alone, it's his wife after all. Selena needs to stop adding fuel to the fire, tell her fans to leave both Justin and Hailey alone and then not comment on anything further. And Hailey probably needs to leave Justin and find out who she is herself, and stop doing petty things on the Internet. That sort of stuff is for a group chat or private friends only accounts.
I think in different ways they are all loving the attention this brings them. Hailey probably thinks she has 'won' because she's married to Justin after very clearly being a fan and him choosing her over Selena. While Selena probably can't accept he quickly married her and thought/hoped the marriage would be over by now.
The entire thing is embarrassing, they are all adults. Imagine people where you lived behaved like this.

 

[account70032]

I agree with some of your points but one thing isn’t being talked about enough is how Justin has escaped all of the scrutiny, he could also shut a lot of this down and stick up for his WIFE. Maybe I’m reaching and have spent my sick day in bed on tik tok but Selena had a song ‘ghost of you’ and then Justin years later brought a similar one out when he was already married to Hailey. If I was Hailey, I’d be like wtf. It’s like coded messages.

I get that it’s a PR dream that their songs are meant to be like ping pong (if you get me) but he doesn’t help by releasing music that would make the fans start to speculate. There’s also lots of footage on YouTube of how he treats Hailey, some of it may be angled that way but he’s problematic. What I’d love to know if I could have the answer to any question is why did he get married to Hailey so fast after breaking up with Selena?

How on earth justin escaped so much scrutiny confuses me too. All the hate goes towards his wife and maybe in his mind he prefers her to get the hate so that he gets away with things or doesn’t have to speak out. Yeah for years some of the names of songs or lyrics do sound like coded messages and if they are their way of speaking to eachother its weird because selena will never move on if she does that and also he’s married so he should know certain things he says are going to look a certain way and come across disrespectful. That whole situation between the three of them is weird.

So many other celebrities have been in relationships with someone for years and it ends and they move on and they don’t associate with their ex anymore or do/say anything that would involve their ex or make people talk about the ex but with these three the drama is always back and forth. They can’t put out songs and interviews talking about their ex etc and then not expect fans to feel a certain way or talk about it. Exactly I get with artists nowadays they write these kind of songs as it’s like the PR dream and these songs with drama can be popular but it’s not healthy and it fuels drama so then when celebrities complain about drama they need to take accountability for what they’re putting out there.

Obviously no relationship/marriage is perfect so I’ve no idea what their relationship is like behind closed doors but I also think he’s problematic , immature and hard work. She signed up for that marrying him cause she knew being his wife would give her more of a career but I can imagine he’s not easy to live with.

If Selena or Justin could actually publicly say why him and Selena ended things in 2018 and why he got married so fast right after to Hailey maybe then the world would have answers and the whole situation could end. Writing songs hinting about things and doing interviews implying things but not actually saying what happened of course fans are going to speculate and they probably always will. Yeah people can say that’s their private business they don’t have to share the reasons but they’ve no problem sharing everything else. I doubt we’ll ever get an answer for that question. Also Selena following Hailey is not good for her mind cause now she’ll be seeing all these posts of Justin and Hailey loved up which might spiral her again so I don’t get why she isn’t looking out for her mental health.

 

[Maccat123]

Someone take her phone off her this is embarrassing View attachment 2616810

Apparently she’s already broken this “break”

 

[ls240898]

She was on the early access episode of the podcast Smartless with Will Arnett, Sean Hayes and Jason Bateman. And they were gushing about how well she handles her mental health and fame - haha! I know this would’ve probably been recorded before her Benny Blanco rant/episode but it’s very ill-timed. One thing I will say is it made me realise how much she’s done career-wise and she’s only 31 so it was nice to think positively of her for once haha

 

[Yel]

That crying scene you’re talking about really didn’t seem genuine. Was she even actually upset cause it sounded like she was putting on a sad voice trying to force tears while knowing the camera was filming her. I don’t think that documentary was that good it seemed too staged in certain parts and not natural like she tried to make out like it was. Before anyone even tries to say you’re hating on her you’re a Hailey fan lol I’m not hating on anyone or an obsessed fan of either of them but I just think there’s things Selena does that are weird and wrong which she should be called out for cause anytime anyone tries call her out for something or tell her she’s wrong she plays victim and her fans don’t want to accept the woman isn’t an angel.

Quite a lot of the documentary seemed more like scripted reality like the hills. Often felt like a producer had just said we need tears or we need a conflict and a contrived scene then plays out.

"I just want to be a philanthropist", well don't we all hun. Having purpose and giving makes you feel good. She must have felt great going on a charity holiday thing, most A listers love doing it as they've had all the holidays and material things they could ever want.

Her music career reminds me of someone like Rita Ora. Very little artistry or distinct sound. You just get the impression that she gets bought sessions with hit makers and makes a small input to get a song writing credit.

I was surprised Taylor Swift was besties with her as she's so professional and well put together, but I can see that Selena must be totally unthreatening and there'll be trust with a high profile friend.

 

[Ronlonglegs]

Thank goodness for the thread.

I know sod all about either of them but my tiktok fyp is blowing up and it's 99.9% team selena and it actually scares me how much hate there is for Hailey. From what I see Hailey may have done a few aimed petty tiktoks recently BUT the whole time she's been with JB , jelena stans have just been tearing the woman down, it seems to me like she finally bit back a little and now somehow the Jelena stans have taken over the world with their views and everyone is jumping on their team even people I see as intelligent rational beings. I really do fear for hailey

 

[Yupyupyup]

I know there will probably be a filter on this but I wish she’d lay off the filler. That chin filler is awful! She’s naturally pretty there’s no need to mess with her face.

 

[Yupyupyup]

Don't know what to say

Selena gomez nip is not what I wanted to be seeing this Sunday afternoon

 

[Yupyupyup]

She gets away with it because the most vocal fans at the minute are the generations brought up by the new wave internet that get offended by absolutely anything, spread toxic positivity, and can’t understand not everything has a dark sinister ulterior motive. Fair enough if someone is saying something genuinely discriminating, but they don’t understand the difference and will rally to attack and destroy anyone who doesn’t like their fave. You should be able to have a innocent chinwag and gossip without worrying you’re going to be called ableist, racist, misogynistic, etc. when you’ve said nothing of the sort!

 

[account70032]

I think, if the blind items are to be believed, her substance and alcohol abuse would have been toxic as fuck. Coupled with Justin's own addiction issues. He very likely knew that no matter how much he loved her at one stage, they were terrible for each other. She would have kept welcoming him back with open arms if he hadn't moved on and god knows where they'd both be at now if he hadn't. I believe Hailey and Justin are the real deal while I know many do not. He's the most stable he's been for years in his personal life by all accounts and he seems to want to stay largely out of the spotlight. Selena does not and never will.

Also, people like selena who make a career out of being a mental health sufferer and a victim are glamorising mental illness and I cant be told otherwise. My 13 year old daughter thinks it's bloody cool to be mentally ill because of people like her in the public eye making a dime off of their trauma.

Yeah I agree with you completely that’s a good point too and I remember seeing a video of her and Justin in 2017/2018 in some building that is known to sell drugs apparently and why else would two celebrities of all places be in that area in that building acting all suspicious it’s a bit weird. Not hating on anyone for having an addiction that can happen to anybody it’s sad but like you said if those blind items are true aswell as other things that have been posted then her substance and alcohol abuse aswell as any addictions he had would of just made them even more toxic for each other instead of them getting help they would of just been helping bring each other down. So true they would of continued that toxic cycle and maybe he had to push himself to fully move on so there was no way back. I’m not saying he did it the right way I don’t know how exactly they ended things between them and I’m sure she was hurt by it all but it has been years and from all I’ve seen I don’t think she’s over him at all and I find that embarrassing.

Not saying Hailey and Justin are innocent and have never done wrong but I don’t think it’s fair for anybody to say he doesn’t love her cause nobody is in his head nobody knows how he feels or what their marriage is like and although I get people can look at things she’s done and say she was obsessed she was desperate to be with him and marrying him helped a lot to give her the career she has now thats true I get that his name helped her a career a lot but the fact is regardless of all that he married her and they’re still married years later so there has to be love there even if it was friendship at first he was ok to lose Selena to be with her.

I agree cause yeah mental illness is nothing be ashamed of and raising awareness of help out there is good but when some celebrities glamorise it or use it as way to get away with things playing the victim I don’t like that. In interviews from right after she had her kidney transplant I know this will sound bad but sometimes it was like she was loving the attention and getting sympathy from Justin running back to her at the time. There’s just something very off about her and I don’t like it.

 

[whyhellothere83]

The video that taylor swfit posted..

Selena claiming ‘im soooo happy’ - Either Selena is drugged up or botoxed to death cause she looks anything but sooo happy!

no one can convince me she didnt settle for the first guy who was willing to propose to her, and thats after all the chasing she did to get him ( according to them)

She looks completely drugged up

 

[GrilledCheese]

To be fair Justin has been through the fame ringer since his mid teens, I think he’s a home bird now and doesn’t like leaving the house/being anywhere paps are/out and about for that reason alone. It’s clear to see the whole fame thing makes him very anxious now, which would make anyone unhappy when they can’t go anywhere without having a camera shoved in their face or hidden in a bush.

Also, I maybb remembering wrong but I’m sure both Hailey and Justin have debunked the “argument” videos, as well as the fact it would be absolutely absurd to think a married couple of 5 years never argue. Also, the general couple don’t have a camera following them whenever they’re out of the house. If a camera followed me and my partner out and about whenever we bicker and no one ever got to see what happens behind closed doors I’m sure everyone would say we shouldn’t be together either

I'm talking about the arguments that aren't rumours but confirmed through videos. They're all over YouTube. Of course a married couple would argue but the way Justin treats her sometimes is horrible

 

[EllaBella89]

“Kill em with kindness” but she doesn’t have the kindness in her heart to make a statement to her fans to stop pulling apart the appearance of Hailey over an alleged tiktok about her and instead just adds fuel to the fire? Hailey is quite literally being dragged through the mud and bullied right now and it’s all people doing it in Selenas defence. All it would take for a lot of them to back off would be a post from Selena saying it’s all out of hand and no one should be bullying Hailey over this. People are draggin up pictures of her as a young teenager and basically calling her ugly for christ sake, and we wonder why young women are so insecure that they feel the need to get all these surgeries!
Don’t really care for or follow any of the girls involved, but Selena needs to step up here and SPECIFICALLY (no name avoid or beating around the bush) call out what’s happening here and put a stop to it.

I agree. I think they all need to grow up though. Selena does have a responsibility as a mental health ambassador to call out this disgusting behaviour and set an example. I have relatives with bipolar and it’s not an excuse to be an asshole and you have to continually check yourself and it’s advisable to avoid social media if you’re having a rough time as you may act out of character and cause unnecessary drama for yourself and others. It’s not fair, but it’s life, and when you have a huge following and audience you need to use it to set a good example and stamp out bullying and all this childish mean girl shit

 

[Yupyupyup]

Haven’t kept up with her much but whatever she’s doing to her face is having the opposite effect of what she wants! You could tell me she was in her 50s and I wouldn’t argue with you!