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Yupyupyup

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If anything the turning of the tide proves pretty privilege really is a thing. When she was young, fresh faced, and gorgeous she was seem as lovely and sweet. Now she’s busted people are opening their eyes to her questionable, mean girl, victim complex ways.
 
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KYLIE

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She’s rumoured to be dating Zayn Malik. If true, she really knows how to pick them doesn’t she 🥴
thats been a ”stan ship” for years now, so I doubt it’s true.. it’s randomly been shipped more at the moment (hate that I know that lol) so I am assuming the only reason people think it’s true is because a random pop culture Twitter account posted it.

No photos, no proof, just a random fan sending in a “tip”. you’d be suprised how easily people take it as gospel. You think one of the highest profile celebrities can casually date Zayn Malik and not get pictured in the city… please…

Same as deuxmoi, people send in stuff that’s a blatant lie all the time for attention etc.

I think honestly for a healthy and lasting relationship, Selena needs to do what Ariana Grande did, date someone on the outside of the direct Hollywood circle with a more “normal” life (i.e. not a singer, actor)
 
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anon411

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i also grew up watching & admiring selena but this drama on both sides seems off, the selena doc left a weird taste in my mouth + now this i just think despite being “open” theres stuff she wont cop to like she wants to be seen as gentle and kind but she is still acting like a mean girl?
 
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ls240898

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This documentary and its promo is turning in to a PR nightmare.

Her fans trying to justify that she was only talking about the music industry doesn’t even make sense because she’s still good friends with Camila Cabello.
This, and off the top of my head Billie Eilish, Olivia Rodrigo, Camilla and Miley Cyrus attended Selena’s 30th not long ago. So even if it was a music industry related comment, it doesn’t make any sense.

I did post above that it was only meant to apply to the music industry but the article I had read that said that was misquoting the original Rolling Stone comments so apologies for that!
 
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account70032

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Selena Gomez is the biggest attention seeker in the world so dramatic yet again and making everything about herself.
 
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GrilledCheese

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I don't think Justin seems happier. He seems closed off from everything. All the videos of Justin and Haileys arguments are very telling

I also don't think he would get a divorce even if he didn't love her like he thought he would. He said marriage didn't fix all his issues like he thought it would, and he's also said that he wants to make his marriage last for the sake of his siblings, so they can grow up and see a marriage can last without divorce
 
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account70032

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I think the differences between disagreements and arguments is how respectfully you handle the others opinions. And of course not being aggressive or yelling at them.
And I can disagree with my partner at times (and we will deal with that privately not on public walks) but that doesn’t translate to the outbursts we see in public and the way he behaves isn’t very respectful to her at all. If he thinks it’s okay to act up in public I dread to think how he treats her behind closed doors.
Honestly Selena dodged a bullet - Justin honestly seems like trash to me.
Completely agree with you
 
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Bowbow82

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In your posts you made great points too! I think threads like these are good cause we can see different sides to things and see why this situation is so weird and never ending drama between them all when there doesn’t need to be.

Hailey should start being mindful of what she posts. She should just use social media to post things about her skincare or any work she’s trying to promote and photos/videos of people in her life. If I were her I would not post any tiktoks that could come across as being bitchy or things on stories that could be misconstrued. She’s 26 she’s not 16 and she’s in the public eye so she should learn to use social media for the right reasons like for business or sharing photos. She should not speak about or refer Selena to anyone cause there’s absolutely no reason for her and her friends to speak about her husbands ex which I’m sure they have after seeing things her friends have posted over the years aswell as Hailey going on that podcast talking about Selena. Hailey is married to him she should be focused on their marriage. I doubt their marriage is as perfect as they make it out to be online cause he seems toxic but that’s for them to deal with. If her friends or people who know her want to say hateful things or throw shade towards Selena then they’re not the kind of people she should want to associate with.

As for Selena I’m sure Justin moving on getting married so fast was painful for her. I know it’s easier said than done to just move on and forget things but so many people go through the same thing and are able to move on. She is 30 she should also know better at her age that certain things she posts, songs she puts out and things she says in interviews are going to lead to speculation , people talking about her and Justin and some people like Hailey will get hated on . If she doesn’t want people associating her with her ex anymore then she needs to be careful with her behaviour and words.

If anyone says anything hateful about her weight I get that would hurt her and she has the right to stick up for herself but sometimes assumptions can be made by her fans or her about something that wasn’t hate towards her at all and sometimes even if something was hate and bitchyness towards her it’s really not worth giving attention and energy to cause if we all spent our time giving attention to every bit of hate it would be never ending. She has a career she’s doing well in so she should not let anything take away from that. No amount of drama is worth getting involved in when she should not want to be associated with the biebers at all. Ignoring them might be hard but it’s the best thing to do. Justin seems like the type of person deep down that doesn’t want Selena to forget about him and get over him so she should not want to give him or Hailey any attention anymore no matter what she needs to rise above drama and move on with her life. Following her ex’s wife I don’t think is the best move for her mentally.

As for Zayn Malik hopefully they are just working on a song together and nothing more. He’s had a lot of issues and yeah people can change but I don’t know if that would be healthy for her to be involved with him.
I love how you’ve summed this whole drama up. That was a refreshing read to be honest, unbiased and raised fab points. I feel like an English teacher saying that 😂 but I agree with everything you said. Kudos for mentioning the trolling about Selena’s weight, that was uncalled for from trolls
 
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whitesand

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A lot of the internet is very angry with her rn, it’s interesting to see. Apparently if you dislike Selena you Stan Hailey Bieber, funny because I’ve never once even looked at HB’s content or make up products or whatever they are.
 
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OmgObsessed

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I was thinking do you guys know any other A list celeb that seeks out compliments? I can't think any other that call themselves gross etc. It's actually quite messed up to use fans that way.
 
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Folkevermore

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I still can’t get over the video of Justin slamming the car door in Haileys face.
I hope that was a one off and he treats her better day to day.
She deserves more. Justin seems like a dickhead.
 
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Mishmash1207

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No idea why they broke up, but I wonder if she’s really over Justin.
I get the impression that they were still emailing/text etc., however, I think Hailey getting pregnant probably put an end to that.

She seems really happy and stable in her new relationship.

Something about Hailey is off to me. I get strong rebound vibes.
 
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account70032

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Selena always posts old selfies of herself and pretends she just took the photo. Fan pages of her and people who are big fans of her even leave comments saying she posted this years ago , I’ve this pic of her saved from when she posted it years ago etc and I just find it odd that Selena acts like it’s a recent photo of herself. Of course she can post what she wants not a big deal but at the same it’s just an odd thing she does a lot is it cause she’s that insecure? some other people have noticed her eyes and nose looks different now and her eyebrows are different now too so it’s easy to tell she doesn’t look like that anymore.

Don’t get me wrong she’s allowed get work done that’s her choice but I really think she’s very insecure and is desperately using social media more and more for validation. Constantly posting selfies constantly needing an ego boost in a way is sad. Yeah everyone who uses social media posts photos of themselves I get that but I think she comes across addicted to instagram like she’s unhappy within herself and uses the app to make her feel better which I think can be an unhealthy thing to do. As much as there’s thing I don’t like about her she’s not going to ever feel better mentally if she is using social media for validation. I’ve said it a lot but I think it would be better for her mind and reputation if she wasn’t on it that much cause I find myself when I’m not on it that much it helps.
 
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Folkevermore

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Justin & Selena's relationship happened naturally whereas Hailey's was all based on spying/stalking 🥴 he basically married a fan
He did. Their whole relationship is weird to be honest, I don’t get the vibe they’re that into each other.
I don’t think Selenas actions are reasonable at all, but the people who are acting like hailey is some angelic child is bizarre.
She’s a 26 year old woman who acts like a mean girl, is rude to fans and treats hospitality staff like crap. saying Selenas oldest when comparing a 30 year old and a 26 year old is completely redundant - we all have fully developed pre-frontal cortexes by those ages. People are acting like Selena is 40 and Hailey is 13, they way they keep going on about Selenas age.
Her eyebrow video was clearly mocking Selena too, and she’s made many videos with very “coincidental” timings in the past.
It’s the typical kind of bullying you see in mean girls in high school who do it subtly and then act all innocent because technically you can prove it.
 
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Folkevermore

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Even if that's true does it give the world permission to pile on?
I would have more sympathy for hailey if she didn’t come across as such a raging bitch tbh. Every story I’ve ever seen of someone meeting her has said she’s incredibly rude. That video of her pretending to throw up at the sound of Taylor swifts name is purely pathetic behaviour for a fully grown adult.

I do also think her “coincidental posts” that coincide with things Selena has said happen way to often for it to actually be a coincidence.

They both need to grow up but I don’t think Haley is any better than Selena
 
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account70032

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She wants people to listen to her when she’s going on and on about her past relationship with Justin bieber and wants to talk on repeat about how she’s single but when other people including fans of her ask her to show support or speak on something she will play victim and make everything about herself to get sympathy it’s bizarre how she does it. Yeah she doesn’t hold the power to stop what’s going on in the world and yeah a post can’t stop what’s going on people understand that but she has a huge platform and huge influence on people of all ages and this could of been an opportunity to use her platform for a lot of good.

All she had to do was educate herself on what’s going on and there’s so many people she could of asked to educate her and then she could of spoke about everything in some way but the way she words things is very bad and it’s just her making it all about herself. People are just surprised by her silence for so long on what’s happening when this is the woman who said she wanted to be remembered for talking about , fighting for , speaking up and spreading awareness on serious things like this that are happening in the world. Maybe that was just an act she put on her in documentary to look perfect and nice. Liking Amy Schumers posts was not a smart move.In one way it might of been better if she said nothing at all and didn’t go near her phone because what’s she’s said has only shown how she plays the victim.
 
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Yupyupyup

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Are Selena fans even really her fans? Why do they ship her with the most horrifically toxic men?🤣 It’s like they never want her to know peace
 
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Folkevermore

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Not a single person is saying Hailey is an angel, no one involved in this is an angel.
Yet you keep mentioning Selenas age if Hailey is a child, as if her age makes her so much more innocent.
Everyone involved is a fully grown adult so keep mentioning Selena being older (26 vs 30 isn’t much difference) is kind of bizarre
 
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account70032

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Is that about the awkward video of her going around
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Yeah she’s annoyed people are turning her into memes. I get that if you’re being recorded and your face naturally has an expression when someone else is singing, that people making assumptions about you then yeah that might be annoying but it would be easier for her to just ignore it cause all of that will be forgotten in a few days not a big deal but I think she enjoys playing victim wanting people to feel sorry for her. As for other memes being made about her that are funny or cause no drama I don’t see the issue cause memes have been around forever and sometimes you have to be able to take a joke.
 
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