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Yupyupyup

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People are making up entire fan fics about what happened, she might’ve just been clearing out her following list
It’s honestly so scary and unhinged. Twitter and tiktok are terrifying places to be. MCR weren’t joking when they said teenagers scare the living shit out of me 💀
 
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Bowbow82

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There’s no winners in this scenario. No matter what either of them do it’s scrutinised.

Personally, I don’t care much for Hayley, I think she’s weird. There’s too many stalker type things I’ve seen on TikTok but I do feel sorry for her because I’d hate to have that doubt if my husband would prefer to be with his ex.

Also Selena is everywhere right now, that must be a massive head fuck.

Justin is nowhere to be seen though, I wonder if he thrives on the drama?
 
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whatstheteab

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Who doesn't get drunk and stumble about once in their lives. There has been multiple times I've been off my head and I don't rely on alcohol to get through
The difference is that Selena had a kidney implant and has lupus. Getting that drunk can be extremely dangerous but she clearly doesn’t care.
 
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Yel

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Don't really know much about her other than who she hangs out with.

Saw the documentary and found it very eye roll inducing. Like when she starts crying because she's apparently worried that she didn't do her sing good and the exec would be disappointed that he signed a dumb Disney kid. Then half a dozen people and the exec reassure that she did do her sing good. Didn't seem genuine.

Presumably her team had sign off on it all (unlike the epic totally Scott Lee).
 
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Lotte92

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I dont think fans help situations like this. Especially as many of them are so young. They have tunnel vision. Everything is black amd white to them their idolis perfect and anyone that offends them even slightly is evil and must be taken down.
 
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redstraw16

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I remember seeing a thing years ago when she was the most followed person and she said she hated being the most followed person on Instagram, so I don't blame her for wanting to come off for a bit
Yeah I think breaks from social media are healthy for anyone. It’s just all I see are tweets/comments comparing her and Kylie, or her and Hailey, I’d sack it off too if I was her.
 
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GrilledCheese

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I like her but she needs to get a grip. Which popular singer hasn't been turned into a meme?? She should just avoid Instagram if she's going to take offense to a light hearted joke
 
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Yupyupyup

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Is that you Hailey, like why do you care so much about a nepo baby, who has done nothing other than have a famous dad and marry a famous guy? Am not invested in either but at least Selena had made her own money without relying on daddy.
I don’t. I was actually a big Selena fan and still am a fan of her, but I also think having a go at some random celebrity just because she’s married another celeb who so happens to be the ex of Selena and someone who she was a big fan of in her teenage/young adult years is absolutely ridiculous.

Also, literally on a gossip site and gossiping in a relevant thread? So your “why do you care” argument is complete redundant 🤣
 
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Bowbow82

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Anyone who would body shame Selena or anyone is wrong 100% and there has been unkind things people who are friends with Hailey have said about selena which is so messed up and not needed. I understand wanting to defend yourself and feeling hurt and like I said before the eyebrow post from Kylie and Hailey aswell as some other posts could easily be see as them being bitchy towards selena and shame on them if that’s the case cause selena didn’t deserve that.

of course she has the right to feel hurt or defend herself and her friends but she’s not always innocent in all this every single time yet her fans try to make her out like she is and sometimes she needs to take accountability for things is the point I was making.

after 5 years of not being with an ex I would be moved on and not write songs about the ex about him replacing me with a girl , not give interviews for years talking about the ex replacing me and not commenting on TikToks that are hating on my ex’s wife encouraging the hate. I would like to think I would be moved on with my life instead of giving any time and energy to irrelevant people who are no longer part of my life.

Selena has a successful makeup brand , her career is going well and thankfully her health seems to ok at the moment to so she should be so focused on all of that instead of being on social media getting involved in drama I’d just ignore all of it’s stupid and pointless not worth my time cause I’d be so moved on. Hailey is probably worried about her skincare brand losing business so is hoping Selena posting all that will make Hailey look good again but if I were Selena I never would of gave my time to any of the drama. Selena needs to think about her mental health and her reputation. She’s built a career for herself she’s achieving things that other celebrities are jealous they haven’t achieved the same success. If I were Selena I would be distancing myself so much from Justin and Hailey not talking about them , not following Hailey. Selena should want people to think of her career when they hear her name not her ex and Hailey.
I agree with some of your points but one thing isn’t being talked about enough is how Justin has escaped all of the scrutiny, he could also shut a lot of this down and stick up for his WIFE. Maybe I’m reaching and have spent my sick day in bed on tik tok but Selena had a song ‘ghost of you’ and then Justin years later brought a similar one out when he was already married to Hailey. If I was Hailey, I’d be like wtf. It’s like coded messages.

I get that it’s a PR dream that their songs are meant to be like ping pong (if you get me) but he doesn’t help by releasing music that would make the fans start to speculate. There’s also lots of footage on YouTube of how he treats Hailey, some of it may be angled that way but he’s problematic. What I’d love to know if I could have the answer to any question is why did he get married to Hailey so fast after breaking up with Selena?
 
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account70032

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I just think Selena tries to force herself to look like she’s happy with her life and pretend she doesn’t care about Justin but I think it’s obvious she’s not over him and the situation that happened between them. Sometimes it comes across like she’s bitter things didn’t work out the way she thought. Anyone who has constantly has to go on about how happy they are and how nice their heart is usually isn’t as nice as they make out to be. We’re all human we have our faults but Selena wants to always act innocent. Hailey has done some weird sly things in her own way over the years but she was immature and insecure probably and she owed selena no loyalty and the past can’t be changed unfortunately so Selenas fans hating on her for things what do they expect to get out of it?

Hailey is not worth the time or energy to think about but Selena is so consumed by what happened between her and Justin that it’s like she can’t let it go. If Kylie or Hailey wants to copy Selena or make fun of her without saying her name then clearly they’ve too much time on her hands. Same with Selena commenting on TikToks to encourage the hate she knew exactly what she was doing. Unfortunately it’s one of those situations when Hailey might not of been shading Selena at all but people assumed she was or maybe she was doing it purposely and if that’s the case that’s just sad but no matter what hate Selena tries get sent Haileys way it won’t change the fact Hailey and Justin are married.

None of these people are innocent perfect people. If Justin led Selena on in 2017/2018 then yeah that’s wrong of him but sadly that happens in life to a lot of us. It’s shouldn’t happen, it hurts but you can’t spend your life being bitter about it you have to learn to let irrelevant things like that go or else you’ll never fully be happy in life. She needs to move on with her life and put her focus into things like her career and things she wants in life. Being on social media is not good for Selena at all it doesn’t have a good effect on her cause it brings out a mean , attention seeking and weird side to her.

In all honesty majority of these celebrities crave attention and it’s not healthy. Hailey posts some misleading weird things sometimes too but if Selena had truly moved on she wouldn’t notice or care and then her fans also wouldn’t give hailey and Justin the the time of day . There also is probably times people read too deeply into what Hailey is posting. If Selena stayed off the internet it would do her so much good.
 
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account70032

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What a great post 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻, you make some really good points.

Now I’m thinking what will happen in the future? Do you think Hailey and her friends will stop with the sly digs now they’ve both come out trying to appear they’re being cordial?

Also, I read before she’s possibly dating Zayn? Is Justin going to have a meltdown or is he over her?
In your posts you made great points too! I think threads like these are good cause we can see different sides to things and see why this situation is so weird and never ending drama between them all when there doesn’t need to be.

Hailey should start being mindful of what she posts. She should just use social media to post things about her skincare or any work she’s trying to promote and photos/videos of people in her life. If I were her I would not post any tiktoks that could come across as being bitchy or things on stories that could be misconstrued. She’s 26 she’s not 16 and she’s in the public eye so she should learn to use social media for the right reasons like for business or sharing photos. She should not speak about or refer Selena to anyone cause there’s absolutely no reason for her and her friends to speak about her husbands ex which I’m sure they have after seeing things her friends have posted over the years aswell as Hailey going on that podcast talking about Selena. Hailey is married to him she should be focused on their marriage. I doubt their marriage is as perfect as they make it out to be online cause he seems toxic but that’s for them to deal with. If her friends or people who know her want to say hateful things or throw shade towards Selena then they’re not the kind of people she should want to associate with.

As for Selena I’m sure Justin moving on getting married so fast was painful for her. I know it’s easier said than done to just move on and forget things but so many people go through the same thing and are able to move on. She is 30 she should also know better at her age that certain things she posts, songs she puts out and things she says in interviews are going to lead to speculation , people talking about her and Justin and some people like Hailey will get hated on . If she doesn’t want people associating her with her ex anymore then she needs to be careful with her behaviour and words.

If anyone says anything hateful about her weight I get that would hurt her and she has the right to stick up for herself but sometimes assumptions can be made by her fans or her about something that wasn’t hate towards her at all and sometimes even if something was hate and bitchyness towards her it’s really not worth giving attention and energy to cause if we all spent our time giving attention to every bit of hate it would be never ending. She has a career she’s doing well in so she should not let anything take away from that. No amount of drama is worth getting involved in when she should not want to be associated with the biebers at all. Ignoring them might be hard but it’s the best thing to do. Justin seems like the type of person deep down that doesn’t want Selena to forget about him and get over him so she should not want to give him or Hailey any attention anymore no matter what she needs to rise above drama and move on with her life. Following her ex’s wife I don’t think is the best move for her mentally.

As for Zayn Malik hopefully they are just working on a song together and nothing more. He’s had a lot of issues and yeah people can change but I don’t know if that would be healthy for her to be involved with him.
 
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Kiwi_Paddy

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Holy hell I aim to be as calm and collected as Hailey. This just proves further she isn't a bad person. Selena literally started the drama and Hailey calmly reached out. Then Selena still tries to play like the victim.


Man imagine dealing with an alcoholic bipolar person not seeking help obsessed with YOUR husband and yet you're the bad guy?! "Bless" Hailey.


I agree I'm tired of this narrative and Kardashian nonsense too. I'm honestly like who gives a shit?? Plus I'm tired of videos glamouring true crime. Drama channels just keep recycling the same nonsense: Selena vs. Hailey, racist J* talking, that TikTok makeup girl, Kardashians. They all title their videos the same too.
It really does not matter about who said what and who started it as the real victims are the young girls following this drama and thinking this is acceptable behaviour. Selena has the best PR as she has a career and reputation to protect where as Justin should be helping Hailey with this.
 
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Yupyupyup

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Why do we think Selena is an alcoholic? I don’t not believe it I just want the tea and cannot locate it on the internet.
I’m not sure if it’s just rumours but there was birdies talking about that’s the reason she went to rehab and that’s why her kidney died off a lot faster than it should have for someone suffering with lupus. It’s also rumoured that that’s the initial reason her and her donor fell out because she was posting about drinking and having drinks after the donation and apparently her donor said something about it which rubbed Selena the wrong way (because she was to be surrounded by yes men!).
 
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monepierce

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I’m after remembering how insufferable she was in her single era and constantly reminding everyone about it, my biggest nightmare is turning out like those girls who think their relationship status is a personality trait
 
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account70032

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I wonder what her bestie thinks of this vile behaviour...
Wtf 😳 I wonder what Selena thinks of that but it wouldn’t surprise me if Selena and her friends don’t like Gigi anyway because remember there was rumours for a couple of months that Zayn and Selena were dating and then all of a sudden selena unfollowed zayn and Gigi at the same time , it might of been nothing but it’s odd of all people those two got unfollowed the same time. There’s been many people posting about supporting Palestine which is good and yet of all peoples posts , Selenas friend picks Gigi’s post and says something vile like that? sounds personal.
 
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Yupyupyup

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Houseinhabit shared a great reel showing Hailey copying all of Selena outfits and it was quite obvious. To be honest it really doesn’t matter who has Justin now, they will be replaced with a younger model in the next 10 years.
Sorry but I don’t class “copying” (they both have very very basic looks anyway, I don’t see anything stand out unique about either of their fashion that could be definitive) outfits from someone as them “not moving on”. Moving on from what exactly? 🤣
 
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