Poor star 
imagine the pain she was in with her leg, heartbreaking
imagine the pain she was in with her leg, heartbreaking
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Frankie should have picked her up. She was an inadequate mother thereâs no doubt about that.
But really how dare you sit through the footage of SB beating a baby, through her smirks and smiles during questioning, shouts of âbe strongâ from the gallery and then have the audacity of crying watching a video of a baby crawling up the stairs crying.
Ugh duck off.
But really how dare you sit through the footage of SB beating a baby, through her smirks and smiles during questioning, shouts of âbe strongâ from the gallery and then have the audacity of crying watching a video of a baby crawling up the stairs crying.
Ugh duck off.
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Frankie, when she gets out of jail should do something similar to what Kayleigh Haywoods parents do. Go around schools telling the story to educate young people about these predators (different scenarios but still). Not saying she's entirely innocent in
In Kayleighâs case the parents were not involved so itâs different to FS who in some peoples minds will always be guilty of Starâs death directly or indirectly, regardless of what she is convicted of. She would get abuse from people if she did this sort of thing. Some members of her family could do but most people would not want to re-live the pain and trauma.
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Frankie, when she gets out of jail should do something similar to what Kayleigh Haywoods parents do. Go around schools telling the story to educate young people about these predators (different scenarios but still). Not saying she's entirely innocent in
In Kayleighâs case the parents were not involved so itâs different to FS who in some peoples minds will always be guilty of Starâs death directly or indirectly, regardless of what she is convicted of. She would get abuse from people if she did this sort of thing. Some members of her family could do but most people would not want to re-live the pain and trauma.
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So basically all weâve got from today is that her relationship was unpleasant, the mouth injury at the reservoir story isnât just from SB, SB and FS have questionable ideas about driving standards, FS lied a bunch of times about how things were with SB, FS claims Holly Jones is a liar and says âI donât know,â âI canât remember,â or blames SB telling her to abuse Star whenever it comes up yet can recount the way SB treated her perfectly.
Brockhills family are just savages. Simple as. Any normal family would be disgusted and distance themselves if a family member was accused of child abuse and child murder, never mind stand proudly in court watching them batter the child, then proceed to fight with people online and then vandalise the poor childâs grave.
I fully understand what your saying. Like someone else said maybe if something like that ever did come about it would be better coming from her grandparents/other loved ones.
Vandalise her grave? WTF???
Itâs so heartbreaking to think about Star having to climb stairs and be dragged around town with a broken leg. Poor little thing, she deserved so much more.
But it seems like she didnât actually really suspect her of anything until the weekend before at the recycling plant and she never let her have Star alone again after that!
Multiple times apparently
I was 20 years older than Frankie when I had my first child. As a new mum I had people telling me (as âadviceâ) what I should and shouldnât be doing at various stages. A lot of conflicting advice and I found it overwhelming at times but being in my 30s I was more confident than I would have been as a teenager in making a choice about my parenting style.
I can totally understand how a teen mum, whoâs fallen in love with someone nearly ten years older, who seemed to have a lot of experience looking after other peopleâs kids would just take their word on what they should be doing to bring the child up. Thatâs without even taking DV into account.
I think KG is clutching at straws a bit. Whilst I think in todayâs world many people would agree it was cruel to do what FS did to a 16 month old, I donât think it means it lead to her murdering her. I just canât seen any evidence so far that FS would have escalated in that way. But itâs clear as day with SB.
do jury members have to justify their decision? Or can it be as simple as saying itâs what you believe?
I can totally understand how a teen mum, whoâs fallen in love with someone nearly ten years older, who seemed to have a lot of experience looking after other peopleâs kids would just take their word on what they should be doing to bring the child up. Thatâs without even taking DV into account.
I think KG is clutching at straws a bit. Whilst I think in todayâs world many people would agree it was cruel to do what FS did to a 16 month old, I donât think it means it lead to her murdering her. I just canât seen any evidence so far that FS would have escalated in that way. But itâs clear as day with SB.
do jury members have to justify their decision? Or can it be as simple as saying itâs what you believe?
Yeah I think I read that SBs family smashed up the grave
Crying because they know itâs all going down the pan for tough girl Savannah. I hope that family deserve everything they get. Vicious bullies.
I imagine theyâll make life hell for Starâs family when this is over.
I imagine theyâll make life hell for Starâs family when this is over.
SB did not have time alone with Star after that though or am I getting mixed up? It looks she was alone with Star after that on the day of the murder. I think no reasonable person would expect a child to be murdered in minutes while they pop to the loo. Unless you are referring to another time?
The fact that she didnât let her have her alone counts for nothing, FS said herself that SB is way bigger and stronger than her and can easily overpower her. Weâve seen what happened despite them not being alone together.
Sheâs tough in public because she hangs around stupid, weak and easily manipulated people, and has her scummy criminal family to back her up. When she is in prison sheâs gonna meet her match, When she is in prison I hope sheâs battered to the degree she battered Star daily!
For context, itâs known locally and what some of Stars family have posted that some things have been stolen from Stars grave and things have been knocked over. Itâs rumoured to be SBs family but no one knows for sure.
I want to believe that FS didn't know Star had a badly injured leg. FS did tell SB that Star was crying when her leg was touched, saying she was going to take her to the Dr, but SB said Star was 'petting' and telling FS not to pick her up. Maybe FS really was that gullible and went along with everything SB said about child care.
Apart from a load of rambling twists from KG what I picked up from today was that pre SB, FS had loads of help with Star, possibly a bit misguided in that Anita said just leave her with us to sort yourself out, which kind'a gave FS a free pass to behave like an immature teenager and free reign to get to know SB better.
No one really helping FS to bond and how to care for for Star, just taking Star off her hands and if you have the time why not, she was obviously a delightful child to have around. Then, enter SB, they 'co-parent' Star but to SB's agenda, FS cut off from those who care about them both and doesn't have a clue how to care for Star, she parents as instructed by SB.
Left to her own devices they have moments of loving play but when it comes to misbehaving (like toddlers do) FS hasn't got the skills, eg: distracting with a toy when she's pulling clothes out of a box, instead she punishes as instructed by SB because by this stage SB is the only person in her life as Grandparents have been cut out.
No one really helping FS to bond and how to care for for Star, just taking Star off her hands and if you have the time why not, she was obviously a delightful child to have around. Then, enter SB, they 'co-parent' Star but to SB's agenda, FS cut off from those who care about them both and doesn't have a clue how to care for Star, she parents as instructed by SB.
Left to her own devices they have moments of loving play but when it comes to misbehaving (like toddlers do) FS hasn't got the skills, eg: distracting with a toy when she's pulling clothes out of a box, instead she punishes as instructed by SB because by this stage SB is the only person in her life as Grandparents have been cut out.
Yes I mean FS leaving Star alone while she popped to the toilet. She suspected SB of harming Star, I think this means she has some responsibility because she failed to protect her. Not murder, but the lower end of causing or allowing a death.
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