I.e she’s never acknowledged that Star’s death was caused by someone else (not her) - she’s always maintained it was an accident (I think!!)
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I wouldn’t want to be grilled by Kath Goddard. She’s very good at her job and doesn’t exactly look kindly.
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One thing that doesn’t appear to be have been discussed in any detail is SB saying that FS was still in her PJs when she arrived with the kids that fateful day. SB said she would make a coffee and then watch the kids whilst FS had a shower.
It doesn’t sound like FS had time for a shower in the end. She has just said in court that her pad had leaked and she had blood on her legs so I assume blood was on her PJ bottoms too. There is no mention of her getting changed into clean clothes. This must mean she went to hospital in the ambulance in blood soiled PJs, mustn’t it? I recall they had to hand over their clothing to Police whilst at the hospital. If FS handed over soiled PJs, this would account for her being on her period. Did the hospital then give them some clothing to change into and go home in? Or did FS get changed into clean clothes in those 11 minutes before calling an ambulance?
Apologies if the clothing / PJs / shower situation has already been discussed and I have missed it completely. It is just something that has been bugging me since SB told the court that FS was still in her PJs when she got there.
It doesn’t sound like FS had time for a shower in the end. She has just said in court that her pad had leaked and she had blood on her legs so I assume blood was on her PJ bottoms too. There is no mention of her getting changed into clean clothes. This must mean she went to hospital in the ambulance in blood soiled PJs, mustn’t it? I recall they had to hand over their clothing to Police whilst at the hospital. If FS handed over soiled PJs, this would account for her being on her period. Did the hospital then give them some clothing to change into and go home in? Or did FS get changed into clean clothes in those 11 minutes before calling an ambulance?
Apologies if the clothing / PJs / shower situation has already been discussed and I have missed it completely. It is just something that has been bugging me since SB told the court that FS was still in her PJs when she got there.
Maybe she changed her position on where they were in the living room.
Or it could have been the armed police comment?
Or it could have been the armed police comment?
That wasn’t new today - that was in ZAs speech yesterday.
Intimidating, jargony ways
Definitely not going to be any leading questions from her that’s for sure. Only questions that will make FS’s head spin
I think we’re going to see more of this tomorrow, today was just a taster.
It’s very unfair actually. Guilty or not, everyone is entitled to a fair trial. And it’s hardly fair if they’re putting statements and questions to her that she genuinely doesn’t understand.
Ahhh okay…. Do you have a legal background as you seem to be 100% on the detail. I’m envisioning you in front of a whiteboard with lots of lines and post it notes!
KG is going to tie FS in knots so she gets confused.
So that's why KG wanted to raise a point of law, she has changed her story today about SB in the room the documents KG mentions are
Defence Case Statement (DCS)
A proof of evidence is a written statement containing details of what it is intended the witness will say at trial. ... (a) the nature of the defence, including any particular defences relied upon; and. (b) the matters of fact on which the defendant takes issue with the prosecution;
I wonder if/when Mr Ali knew she was going to change her story today? As a very experienced QC he must have known what an issue it would cause and I cant imagine he would have advised it
Defence Case Statement (DCS)
A proof of evidence is a written statement containing details of what it is intended the witness will say at trial. ... (a) the nature of the defence, including any particular defences relied upon; and. (b) the matters of fact on which the defendant takes issue with the prosecution;
I wonder if/when Mr Ali knew she was going to change her story today? As a very experienced QC he must have known what an issue it would cause and I cant imagine he would have advised it
That SB was in the living room with Star while FS was in the bathroom ?
I think if KG is too harsh it could go against her - the jury may feel FS was put under inappropriate pressure. Let’s hope she’s fair.
No we’ve already heard that before. I’ve definitely read one version of events where SB was in the living room first (SB herself to Dr Taylor on the day of death) and SB was asked about this by ZA or AM.
Nothing
to get confused about if she's telling the truth
Day 5 - Yvonne’s account of that phone call.
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Could it possibly be that SB’s defence weren’t expecting Frankie to say that when she got into the living room SB was sat on the sofa with Star?
Except we know that when your brain is in fight/flight/freeze mode, memories are not stored the same.
I think what many people are saying is that it would be easy to get confused if you don’t understand the questions that are being put to you.
Surely FS will just be able to say if she doesn’t understand, and have it explained? FS managed to make perfect sense so far.
I was just going to say that the pads in the bag could have been older ones too.
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