Can this please not turn into a police bashing thread.
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You don't always need forensic evidence if the circumstantial case is compelling. It usually takes longer to charge without direct forensic evidence though.
Confessions, despite what people think, are fairly rare especially in murder cases and tend to come later or just before trial (when the defendant realises how much evidence the police have on them)
This makes me so angry. That poor woman woman did 'everything right' but even if she was sashaying down the road in a bikini she should have been safe. Men wear what the hell they want and would never be attacked, groped, followed or cat-called by a woman.
The standard reaction in the press seems to be to expect women to batten down the hatches even further on curtailing their behaviour when no one ever seems to collectively say 'what the actual duck is going on when 50% of our country's population are, with good reason, scared to be out'.
Every woman has a tale to tell of something that has happened to them so it's far far more men than a tiny minority.
The standard reaction in the press seems to be to expect women to batten down the hatches even further on curtailing their behaviour when no one ever seems to collectively say 'what the actual duck is going on when 50% of our country's population are, with good reason, scared to be out'.
Every woman has a tale to tell of something that has happened to them so it's far far more men than a tiny minority.
The thing is, ALL men get to experience the privilege that comes with being a man. They have never had to worry in the way we do. Women have a constant life long curfew, we cannot be on our own past a certain time. It’s terrifying.
The police do a fantastic job under the very difficult circumstances.
This individual does not represent the Police.
Yeah, I am sure there are ways of passing the tests and presenting as 'normal.' That is really scary. I have a feeling that a lot more is going to come out about this guy; gut instinct tells me that this was not his first crime.
I agree, there was a thread on here a couple of months back called what is something you’ve never shared with anyone or something like that and the number of stories people posted on their regarding being sexually assaulted by men was so shocking and upsetting to read
I don't know her name :-/
This story has really hit me hard, it’s horrific and so tragic.
I often walk home from work very late at night and it’s scared me now.
I feel so sad for her family I can’t imagine the pain they must be going through
I often walk home from work very late at night and it’s scared me now.
I feel so sad for her family I can’t imagine the pain they must be going through
I wasn't having a go at you or wanting you to apologise - I was actually trying to be nice about it!
But yes, three months intensive training with then another nine months on the job training, accompanied by a dedicated mentor IIRC from The Secret Policeman, doesn't seem that long before you can apply to go into firearms does it?
I honestly don't think it's a case of him slipping through the cracks. The vetting procedures are extremely stringent. If he had no previous, no links to anyone with a criminal record and nothing that stood out financially or on his medical records, then there would literally have been nothing to flag him up as unsuitable.
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if more horrific stories are later linked to this man. Luring a woman alone at night in the middle of the city into your car possibly abusing your status as a police officer is a hell of a first crime.
The not all men argument is ridiculous. I would struggle to name a woman in my life that hasn’t been assaulted or followed once if not multiple times in their lives. If you’re a man and you feel you’re not part of the group doing that, why don’t you step up and help? When you see a strange man approach a woman at night, stick around, watch what happens, take a picture, intervene if you feel it’s safe to do so.
Personally I’m frustrated with the laws around self defence kits in the U.K., of course you can get creative and use something nearby IF you have the range of motion in your situation and the time. Surely if you have a can of pepper spray that fits in your pocket or a sharp key ring you have a better fighting chance.
The not all men argument is ridiculous. I would struggle to name a woman in my life that hasn’t been assaulted or followed once if not multiple times in their lives. If you’re a man and you feel you’re not part of the group doing that, why don’t you step up and help? When you see a strange man approach a woman at night, stick around, watch what happens, take a picture, intervene if you feel it’s safe to do so.
Personally I’m frustrated with the laws around self defence kits in the U.K., of course you can get creative and use something nearby IF you have the range of motion in your situation and the time. Surely if you have a can of pepper spray that fits in your pocket or a sharp key ring you have a better fighting chance.
I also think the police do an amazing job, and don't deserve half of the hate they get. I've seen a lot of people online discussing their distrust for police now and it's a real shame because we need the police more than ever and how was anyone to know what this man would turn out to be?
It's so distressing to realise a young woman has lost her life and that could have been any of us, any of our friends, our family, coworkers, just anyone we could know
Sorry! Just a bit shook up with this whole case
It's so distressing to realise a young woman has lost her life and that could have been any of us, any of our friends, our family, coworkers, just anyone we could know
He obviously came across well, until he didn't and he decided to watch the light go out in a woman's eyes. Murderers can be charming.
How a human being can do something so horrific to another human being is just incomprehensible. I know bad things happen every day, to people we know, people we don’t. Bad people could be our neighbours, even our friends. It’s just so horrific when it’s close to home, it could be any one of us.
Her poor, poor Mum and Dad. They’re daughter, baby girl, child, has been snatched from them from someone who is pure evil. How dare he. May he rot in hell and their family and friends eventually find some sort of peace. God rest her soul.
Her poor, poor Mum and Dad. They’re daughter, baby girl, child, has been snatched from them from someone who is pure evil. How dare he. May he rot in hell and their family and friends eventually find some sort of peace. God rest her soul.
When I was about 9 I was walking home from school across the park with my mum and saw a man with a bloody nose surrounded by a group of teenage boys. My mum and some other school mums got involved and sorted it and it turned out he'd exposed himself to girls in school uniform from the High School and they'd seen it. Details a bit hazy but he was an off duty police man. My mum gave a statement then his lawyer ran her to give evidence for him. She said no not for a pon * He was found guilty.
Also women are appearing more as sexual predators in crime statistics as they are male identifying as women being referred to by their chosen pronouns. A woman had to refer to her rapist as "she" in court. There are receipts but I'm meant to be working so need to get back but they are easily available
* didn't say ponce
Also women are appearing more as sexual predators in crime statistics as they are male identifying as women being referred to by their chosen pronouns. A woman had to refer to her rapist as "she" in court. There are receipts but I'm meant to be working so need to get back but they are easily available
* didn't say ponce
I still have respect for the police, no doubt this guy is a bad apple amongst a bunch of good ones, but I can’t help feeling like I’d feel more comfortable talking to a female officer over a male. I’ve seen men in positions of power/trust use their position to abuse women too many times. It’s just how I feel.
Does anyone else think that there is more to this? How did he randomly pick her and then do this? It’s not the kind of crime someone randomly does either as their first time.
It will be pretty terrifying if he turns out to have randomly picked her. Not sure if by now they would of released to the public whether she knew him. The family say no, but I am so confused as to how this could happen randomly?! If you wanted to pick a random target there are lots of places you could go with no CCTV etc.
I have been thinking about this case non stop and hoped she would be found safe and well
It will be pretty terrifying if he turns out to have randomly picked her. Not sure if by now they would of released to the public whether she knew him. The family say no, but I am so confused as to how this could happen randomly?! If you wanted to pick a random target there are lots of places you could go with no CCTV etc.
I have been thinking about this case non stop and hoped she would be found safe and well
The impact of this is going to be huge i feel. Just reading the comments here highlights how uneasy, fearful and pissed off this will make woman.
We have a right to walk the streets. We have a right to walk those streets wearing whatever the hell we want.
I'm going to stop there or else i might go off on a rant but yes... This hopefully might bring about some kind of 'movement'
We have a right to walk the streets. We have a right to walk those streets wearing whatever the hell we want.
I'm going to stop there or else i might go off on a rant but yes... This hopefully might bring about some kind of 'movement'
Similar to how a lot of women would feel safer seeing a female doctor
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