This is all so hard for me to fathom. From central London to a woodland in Kent. So horrific and tragic, I couldn't even imagine such a situation in my worst nightmares.
RIP Sarah
RIP Sarah
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You’ve said numerous times about his upbringing. The only behaviour that matters is HIS behaviour last week. And you’ve just plucked from thin air about his upbringing anyway, there’s been no reports of any bad upbringing whatsoever so why’s it even being mentioned?No one is excusing his behaviour
Even if his mummy forgot to tuck him in 40 years ago it doesn’t make his behaviour okay or justified, he’s had many years to sort those issues and if he has mental health issues like that has basically tricked himself into the met too
It’s not necessarily blaming his mum. He might have had an abusive father, uncle, teacher, or someone else influential in his early development. People are understandably curious as to how and why this has happened. Your childhood experiences shape you as an adult.
This. Please let this be a catalyst for change. Please let this open up a new type of dialogue and please let action be taken. Women are being failed every single day. RIP Sarah and all the girls and women that have gone before - they deserved so much better.
It's inappropriate to be speculating at this time. Nobody really knows anything at this time. I'm not convinced it even matters.
There are no excuses. However mental health services are appalling in this country. Changes need to be made.
I will say it again. I am not excusing it. I am not saying it is ok because obviously it is NOT.
His behaviour has come from somewhere. Everyone here is speculating and that’s all that we can do until more information is released.
I think you need to back off and calm down.
I’m literally saying what they were discussing on loose women. Often mothers are blamed for their kids behaviour regardless of other things because mothers are supposed to be caring.
Edit to add - this is apparent from social media where parents are saying they’re going to speak to their sons, but it’s often women saying this NOT men. Therefore once again the blame falls on mothers for not doing enough.
I’m not speculating on him his childhood or his life I know nothing about him I am saying that it is unfair how once again women can be blamed for the actions of grown a men
His behaviour has come from himself.
Studies show that between 3-6% of men have grape a woman. 8% of rapes are stranger rapes, which are the type that concern women walking out alone. 8% of 6% equates to just less than 48/10000 men being a stranger danger, or 8% of 3% equates to 24 men in every 10000. That may well be a "tiny minority" of men, however, that also means there are dozens of potential predators in every town, and a couple even in tiny villages. Any of whom could be out specifically seeking a victim.
How far is that approximately?
His behaviour may not have come from anywhere. It's really not appropriate to start speculating.
Everyone learns as they grow up otherwise we would just be an adult with no ability to do anything. Positive and negative experiences shape people.
Then is this thread appropriate? Probably not
Many rapes also don't make the statistics because they have to meet certain criteria. They have to be reported, investigated and then actually verified.
I'm sure there are cases of grape where the woman has lied, but also there will be many many cases where nothing could be 'verified' due to a lack of evidence, or because the woman dropped the charge because the system for this sort of thing is very harsh on the victim
I’m perfectly calm. Don’t try and manipulate with ‘back off and calm down’ when my two replies have been perfectly calm.
Why are you so sure he has had an awful upbringing? You are literally plucking from thin air
Some people are just bad. Doesn’t make it anyone else’s fault
There is a map here. It's a considerable journey
Sarah Everard: Human remains found in Kent woodland
The 33-year-old disappeared while walking home in Clapham, London, last week.
www.bbc.co.uk
About an hour and a half drive
There's an interesting book called 'Without Conscience' that debunks a lot of that. He's what's called a high functioning or successful Psychopath.
Just to let you all know I'm starting the new thread x
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