Sarah Everard #3

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That's the problem, isn't it?; whoever investigates them is almost certainly equally as corrupt.
It's common to call in other forces to go over failed investigations, investigate corruption etc.

Famously for the Met:
As the investigation proceeded, it began to emerge that the corruption was not limited to "a few bad apples" within the forces but was "historically and currently endemic" and "widespread throughout the hierarchical command rather than confined to those below the rank of sergeant."[6]
 
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The fact that tit show boss Cressida fool has not been sacked says it all about the home secretary, the police minister and the murky world of police and politics.
 
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The fact that tit boss Cressida fool has not been sacked says it all about the home secretary, the police minister and the murky world of police and politics.
I’ve hated her ever since I knew she was ‘in charge’ when Jean Charles de Menezes was killed. He was shot in the head after being wrongly identified as a person involved in the previous day’s failed bombing attempt. Shortly after it happened I was talking to a woman about it. Her husband was an arms carrying policeman officer and said what I’d heard on the news etc that he’d been wrongly identified etc - info was quite sketchy at that point and that he should never have been shot and the woman said to me, oh no, that would never happen.
 
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I have only just got around to reading her sisters statement & wow… 😢😢 this in general has just made me feel so heartbroken & worried as a young female! How awful!

I remember a few years back, I must’ve been about 14/15, waiting to catch the bus to go to school in winter at 6ish in the morning. (Very dark at that time, couldnt even see if cars were coming etc because of icy fog).. suffered awful anxiety & didn’t even like leaving the house.
This was just at 14 I’ve always had this absolute fear of something happening to me. & it very nearly did! Nobody else was at this bus stop as I live in quite a small town, but this white van drove up to me, put his window down & was telling me to get in his van & that he would drop me off.. I didn’t say anything as I was so anxious what could happen & he got quite aggressive verbally if that makes sense? I instantly fell sick to my stomach, I can imagine most of you know that awful anxiety panic/ fear that hits you right? I was so hoping someone would’ve drove past so at least if something did happen it wouldn’t be as if I was lying or no witnesses (i majorly think about everything in these situations) He opened his door to get out & I never legged it back home so fast I can’t even explain. Ran in crying my eyes out & I couldn’t fathom going into school that day because of it. Thankfully I lived only around the corner - but ever since that day I’ve been even more petrified to go anywhere when it’s dark, foggy, early morning, where nobody’s around. It’s awful us women have to live like this.Anytime I go out I’m always looking behind my back.. phone in my hand with 999 on just in case, emergency contacts on, location on in case I go missing!

Sorry for the ramble I hope you guys don’t mind but I didn’t even know Tattle had threads like this as I’m quite new! But you guys are amazing & I agree with everything people have written, it should never of came to this.. when will we ever feel safe?? :(
 
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There is a thread on tattle about what the scariest thing that has ever happened to you, and 99% of the posts are scary experiences with men.

When i was speaking to a male friend he did the classic ‘its not all men’ and I said yes there are decent men out there but it is ALL women who have had a scary experience with the opposite sex, and i asked him to find one female in his life (mum, sister, friends etc..) who would say they have never experienced anything scary/sexual harassment from a guy… he couldn’t find one.
 
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It's just part of the fabric of being a woman. Sometimes I'll read a story and think, "oh thank god nothing like that had ever happened to me", when it has, it's just that common that it isn't remarkable anymore. Men pulling up in cars, groped on buses, groped as a teenager by a friend's father, constant shouting from vans, men in otherwise consexual sexual encounters doing things that I explicitly did not consent to.

Men don't like or respect women, and some days I think the "not all men" brigade are the worst. The apathetic onlookers who do nothing.
 
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The apathetic onlookers who do nothing.
Has anyone watched deceit?
it’s about an undercover police officer investigating a potential serial killer. Her colleague warns her she might be in danger, and to make his point he grabs her neck in a cafe to show how quickly and easily it can be done. What really drove the point home for me, was that there were at least two other men in the cafe in that scene, who didn’t even bother looking up.

On the topic of bus drivers + passive bystanders,

a few years ago in my 20s I was waiting on a TFL bus home, from a sport activity which was a little distance away so in the suburbs. it was a dark stretch of road without anyone else there, so I was pretty nervous already.

a bus started coming towards me - super fast. As soon as I can make out the bus number, and yep it’s the bus I need to get, I put my hand out. I think he was speeding.

when I get on board, the bus driver (male) starts yelling at me, extremely aggressively. He had a thick accent but from what I could make out, he was annoyed i put my hand out too late. He accused me of always doing this. I stood up for myself and said this was the first time I’d taken this route, that I put my hand out as soon as I could. He wasn’t interested in listening and yelled over me.

hoenstly, I think he was just fed up and irritated and sexist. He saw a lone female and couldn’t be bothered to stop, so that made me a worthy receipient of his rant.

I gave up arguing with him - I didn’t want to be kicked off and left in the dark. I was fuming and scared he wouldn’t stop for me when it came to my stop. To make it worse - I felt humiliated. It was a lower deck half full. All these people and seem me being yelled at unfairly and not one had come to my assistance, to check if I as OK. To diffuse the situation. They turned a blind eye - but of course the bus driver knew they would. That’s why he felt ok to do it in the first place.


I hadn’t done anything wrong, but this man felt entitled to and comfortable with belittling and yelling at me in public, in front of other people, because I’d mildly inconvenienced him. Because we exist in a culture where men’s wants and needs are.

I emailed TFL, took the bus number etc. They said the perpetrator had been spoken to and dealt with. But I’ll never know if he really was. It seems like in instances like this, the default is to side with the man until concrete and solid evidence makes it impossible. The sport I was involved in that evening, was something I really enjoyed. But I didn’t want to go back to the centre offering it on the basis of that bus journey. It made me feel too unsafe.

and these are who the met are recommending we flag down for our safety? It’s insane.
 
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The main problem with the Met has been the mediocre Commissioners that have been appointed for nearly 2 decades.

The most outstanding policeman of our era has been Hugh Orde, but he has been turned down for the Met job twice as he won't take any politicians bull.
 
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I once reported a crime (fraud) to the police.

They didn't take it seriously. Then the same person (a man) committed fraud again! Again I reported it.

I asked to speak to a female officer the second time and they said that this wasn't necessary.

Needless to say it didn't go anywhere, the men asked me really stupid questions and were very unpleasant. I filed a complaint that was also shot down.

I had to pay for a solicitor to get advice and then it took me around six months to get my bank account details changed and the fraudulent contracts terminated.
 
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