What the actual duck. Just when I think there’s nothing else that can shock me in this trial, they go and do it again.
What the actual duck. Just when I think there’s nothing else that can shock me in this trial, they go and do it again.
I thought they were with relatives. According to this, from October this year.The kids are in care, they’re not with his family. So that’s nice for them, dumped in a foreign country on their own.
The siblings have been returned to a family member (Grandfather I think) with interim custody until December. This was in October after the UK authorities requested they be returned to the UK.The kids are in care, they’re not with his family. So that’s nice for them, dumped in a foreign country on their own.
The children need to be brought back to the UK, they are British citizens. It's incomprehensible that they've been taken into care in Pakistan. God knows what they're going through over there.The kids are in care, they’re not with his family. So that’s nice for them, dumped in a foreign country on their own.
I think so. They might be British citizens but the parents are in jail in the UK. It might be more complex for Olga’s oldest, but basically they have got their grandad seeming to agree to have them there. A total mess. That boy should be thinking about GCSE’s and getting therapy, not looking after his siblings in a foreign country.The children need to be brought back to the UK, they are British citizens. It's incomprehensible that they've been taken into care in Pakistan. God knows what they're going through over there.
I wonder if there are things going on behind the scenes with efforts to get them back here.
Ah yes it changed in OctoberI was going by this but it might have changed since
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Sara Sharif: Pakistan court moves siblings to government childcare facility
A Pakistan court rules on the temporary custody of the children who travelled from the UK with Sara Sharif's father.www.bbc.co.uk
The location is defo a CSA red flag.It’s the location is a bit…sexual overtones. I think there were multiple. But also they’d be well hidden so![]()
Yeah you don't need to cover in the house with your male relatives. Only with non related males, so outside the house or in case of male visitors.I think she was only made to wear hijab outside? We don't know what she wore when she was in the house, which seems like it was a lot of the time. :-(
I reckon Olga was trying to raise the alarm about Sharif being an abuser from 2015 and was probably ignored and fobbed off. I also bet that Sara's allegation of abuse against Olga was made at the behest of Sharif.View attachment 3255652
This from the Facebook trial discussion but doesn’t give a source
Totally agree. Sara was manipulated to claim that her mother abused her, because BB and US didn’t want to risk her injuries being seen.I reckon Olga was trying to raise the alarm about Sharif being an abuser from 2015 and was probably ignored and fobbed off. I also bet that Sara's allegation of abuse against Olga was made at the behest of Sharif.
I'm not sure about this. I suspect Olga might have been abusive to Sara. Something significant happened which made her lose custody.I also bet that Sara's allegation of abuse against Olga was made at the behest of Sharif.
In every image of Batool her head is uncovered...in photographs; in the car arriving at airport parking; being arrested inside the plane on their return....no hijab, yet Sara was forced to wear it.I think she was only made to wear hijab outside? We don't know what she wore when she was in the house, which seems like it was a lot of the time. :-(
Sharif and Basool knew how to cover things up and conceal the cruelty from SSThe whole case is looking like a monumental SS screw up. I'm not someone who is generally down on on social workers, I know they have HUGE case loads and are poorly paid. I know that we only ever hear about the disasters, we never hear about the thousands of kids whose lives will have been saved, because they were removed from abusive parents.
But when they get it really wrong, as they did here, kids die and they have to answer to that. There were so many red flags.
that's what abusers do though, they should have been wiser to it.Sharif and Basool knew how to cover things up and conceal the cruelty from SS
Exactly. It’s a tale as old as time sadly. Many of the high profile child abuse/murder cases we’ve heard about in the media have had some kind of SS involvement and subsequent failure. So much for “lessons will be learnt.” They can’t keep trotting out that line when it means nothing, more has to be done.that's what abusers do though, they should have been wiser to it.