Sara Sharif was let down by her manipulative father, her wicked stepmother and a broken system which doesn’t have enough resource and the caseloads are disturbingly high. To single out a judge or judges is a bit much.
exactly that. it's like a bloody witch hunt.Sara Sharif was let down by her manipulative father, her wicked stepmother and a broken system which doesn’t have enough resource and the caseloads are disturbingly high. To single out a judge or judges is a bit much.
The thing is they almost always do name the judges regardless of whether they made a decision that led to death or a decision that saved a life which is why in this case the media are pushing for it - it is very very unusual for there to be a gag order issued preventing them from naming the judge.If every Judge that had let something happen which had then led to death was named and persecuted, nobody would be a judge.
The judge had no idea he was going to murder Sara, US manipulated social services, his children, and everyone around him. It could have saved Sara’s life if he had made a different decision. Not definitely would, just could. Do we then go back across Sara and every murdered child’s life and persecute anybody whom, if they had made a different decision, could have saved her life? Where do we draw the line? The neighbours? Her teachers? That judge will live with it for the rest of their life - what would the media prefer, them hung drawn and quartered lol.
The media in this country is vile and to be honest, if they’re pushing and requesting something, it’s not often for a genuine reason. They just want a headline and blood. The judge either did the best they could with the information they had, or the inquiry will find there were mistakes made. It’s not up for the Sun or Daily Mail to do that for us.
Perhaps, but I also feel strongly that courts should be transparent and (I’m not a lawyer) wouldn’t want anonymity to be set as a precedent. There’s lots of literature out there suggesting the lack of transparency in the family courts already causes harm to women and children surviving domestic abuse.The media are led by their readers and you can see on this thread that people blame the judge.
If there was no appetite from the general public, they wouldn't pursue it.
I think it’s likely they’ll have weak grounds to appeal, might not even be accepted. I mean, he admitted everything, and she didn’t say a word so what do they have to appeal about?They are all appealing their sentences, hopefully it backfires and they get more. I don't see them getting less.
Anonymity isn’t the precedent, and if the information is relevant in court proceeding moving forward it won’t be hidden. It’s just being hidden from the media. I genuinely don’t understand why people want to know who the judge is, what will it change? Surely letting the reports etc happen would be better than some vigilante finding his house??Perhaps, but I also feel strongly that courts should be transparent and (I’m not a lawyer) wouldn’t want anonymity to be set as a precedent. There’s lots of literature out there suggesting the lack of transparency in the family courts already causes harm to women and children surviving domestic abuse.
How absolutely disgusting....They are all appealing their sentences, hopefully it backfires and they get more. I don't see them getting less.
Me either, his sentencing is in line with previous & more than most parent-child murders get so I wonder how much more they’ll add on? And what the aggravating factors are that the AG will put forward - will give insight into why they think it’s too lenientThat’s a twist in the tale I wasn’t expecting!
Wonder if it is pre emptive to stop his sentence being reducedMe either, his sentencing is in line with previous & more than most parent-child murders get so I wonder how much more they’ll add on? And what the aggravating factors are that the AG will put forward - will give insight into why they think it’s too lenient
I wonder if the Judge didn’t have the confidence to try a Whole Life Order so hit him with as much as possible for Murder. Then the Appeal court can do the work on whether it should be more.Wonder if it is pre emptive to stop his sentence being reduced
I think you could be correct here. A WLO would’ve gone to appeal and possibly reduced. This way there is scope to increase the original sentence and even set a precedent when the treatment of the child is particularly abhorrent and sustained to the point of triggering the sadistic element of the tariff. Either way he’s going to spend his last days locked up which is the best we could’ve hoped for. I think it’s standard these days for murderers to appeal their sentence, you see it all the time. Seems a waste of resources to me and shows lack of remorse in my eyes. It’s given me some degree of satisfaction that it’s being referred for being too lenient in the case of this scumbag.I wonder if the Judge didn’t have the confidence to try a Whole Life Order so hit him with as much as possible for Murder. Then the Appeal court can do the work on whether it should be more.
I wonder what good will come of this? As others have pointed out, there was obviously felt to be good reasons to grant anonymity but the public’s thirst for retribution seems to have been given precedence.Appeal won to name Sara Sharif's family court judges
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Sara Sharif: Appeal won to name girl's family court judges
A decision not to name judges in historical family court cases about Sara's care has been appealed.www.bbc.com