Sali Hughes #6 Eric's at the cat flap, hide your side of beef with a shower cap!

[Tesla's Ghost]

Where were you a week ago?!

I'm an such an idiot Thank you for clarifying!

 

[YellowCar]

Being a lurky lurking lurker!

 

[Tesla's Ghost]

And laughing at my expense!

 

[YellowCar]

No! Just gawping and enjoying gossip. I’ve just always wanted one of those Ginsberg is God jumpers because Kate Moss I love Allen Ginsberg

 

[melfish]

No! Just gawping and enjoying gossip. I’ve just always wanted one of those Ginsberg is God jumpers because Kate Moss I love Allen Ginsberg

Kate Moss is effortlessly cool though ...

 

[Maddie84]

No! Just gawping and enjoying gossip. I’ve just always wanted one of those Ginsberg is God jumpers because Kate Moss I love Allen Ginsberg

Different people, but both alleged paedophiles; Ginsberg just preferred underage boys. This from Wikipedia (which is obvs to taken with a pinch of salt, but the words are his own):


Association with NAMBLA[edit]
Ginsberg was a supporter and member of the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA), a pedophilia and pederasty advocacy organization in the United States that works to abolish age of consent laws and legalize sexual relations between adults and children.[97] In "Thoughts on NAMBLA", a 1994 essay published in the collection Deliberate Prose, Ginsberg stated, "NAMBLA's a forum for reform of those laws on youthful sexuality which members deem oppressive, a discussion society not a sex club. I joined NAMBLA in defense of free speech."[98] In 1994, Ginsberg appeared in a documentary on NAMBLA called Chicken Hawk: Men Who Love Boys (playing on the gay male slang term "Chickenhawk"), in which he read a "graphic ode to youth".[97]
In her 2001 book, Heartbreak, Andrea Dworkin described her sense of Ginsberg's position:

On the day of the bar mitzvah in 1982, newspapers reported in huge headlines that the Supreme Court had ruled child pornography illegal. I was thrilled. I knew Allen would not be. I did think he was a civil libertarian. But, in fact, he was a pedophile. He did not belong to the North American Man/Boy Love Association out of some mad, abstract conviction that its voice had to be heard. He meant it. I take this from what Allen said directly to me, not from some inference I made. He was exceptionally aggressive about his right to duck children and his constant pursuit of underage boys.[99]

 

[HowardMoon]

Different people, but both alleged paedophiles; Ginsberg just preferred underage boys. This from Wikipedia (which is obvs to taken with a pinch of salt, but the words are his own):


Association with NAMBLA[edit]
Ginsberg was a supporter and member of the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA), a pedophilia and pederasty advocacy organization in the United States that works to abolish age of consent laws and legalize sexual relations between adults and children.[97] In "Thoughts on NAMBLA", a 1994 essay published in the collection Deliberate Prose, Ginsberg stated, "NAMBLA's a forum for reform of those laws on youthful sexuality which members deem oppressive, a discussion society not a sex club. I joined NAMBLA in defense of free speech."[98] In 1994, Ginsberg appeared in a documentary on NAMBLA called Chicken Hawk: Men Who Love Boys (playing on the gay male slang term "Chickenhawk"), in which he read a "graphic ode to youth".[97]
In her 2001 book, Heartbreak, Andrea Dworkin described her sense of Ginsberg's position:

bleeping Hell. I had no idea! Someone should tell SH to burn her jumper

 

[Maddie84]

bleeping Hell. I had no idea! Someone should tell SH to burn her jumper

I think that every time I see her wear it. Not really her fault...it doesn't seem to be common knowledge for some reason.

And sorry if I burst your bubble, YellowCar. I used to love him so was so surprised when I found this out!

 

[Jelly Bean]

OK, so...

Nazi collaborator - "dodgy" politics, let's not talk about it, doesn't matter, buy the lipstick, enjoy eye bleeping yourself in the mirror as you put it on.

Susan Sarandon supports a candidate - she got Trump into the White House, even unwillingly because she's an idiot, doesn't support other women etc.

This makes sense.

Exactly. I'm not going mad am I? It is all just very strange? This is the quote from Pretty Honest. Under Beauty Icons.
'I adore Coco Chanel for many reasons. Dodgy politics aside, she was an awesome and inspiring woman'.
'
Isn't that like (for a very exaggerated example I know) saying 'As patio layers go I adore Fred West, dodgy parenting aside'. Is there an 'aside' when it comes to something like that?
Can your professional life cancel out your utterly depraved private life? (Omg that sounds like a Carrie voice over to a particularly hardhitting Sex and the City).

 

[HowardMoon]

I think that every time I see her wear it. Not really her fault...it doesn't seem to be common knowledge for some reason.

And sorry if I burst your bubble, YellowCar. I used to love him so was so surprised when I found this out!

God, me too. My dad looks very Ginsberg-y and we always point it out and call him Alan. Won’t be doing that again

 

[Tesla's Ghost]

I just laughed like a mad woman @ Fred West comment and I was pretending to be listening to something my husband was saying.

 

[Maddie84]

God, me too. My dad looks very Ginsberg-y and we always point it out and call him Alan. Won’t be doing that again

Oh no! I feel terrible now...ha. Find a new name for him!

 

[HowardMoon]

Exactly. I'm not going mad am I? It is all just very strange? This is the quote from Pretty Honest. Under Beauty Icons.
'I adore Coco Chanel for many reasons. Dodgy politics aside, she was an awesome and inspiring woman'.
'
Isn't that like (for a very exaggerated example I know) saying 'As patio layers go I adore Fred West, dodgy parenting aside'. Is there an 'aside' when it comes to something like that?
Can your professional life cancel out your utterly depraved private life? (Omg that sounds like a Carrie voice over to a particularly hardhitting Sex and the City).

IMO, no. The Nazi stuff spoils the mystique of Coco Chanel and people prefer to skim over it as the glamour is too, well, glamorous. Her life story is a real rags to riches tale too which doesn’t hurt.

My daughter has this book (was a gift, I didn’t buy it) and she’s not keen on it. She adores the Maya Angelou, Amelia Earhart and Frieda Kahlo ones so I might bin ol’ Coco on the sly. Strangely no mention of Nazis in it

 

[Ericscat]

Exactly. I'm not going mad am I? It is all just very strange? This is the quote from Pretty Honest. Under Beauty Icons.
'I adore Coco Chanel for many reasons. Dodgy politics aside, she was an awesome and inspiring woman'.
'
Isn't that like (for a very exaggerated example I know) saying 'As patio layers go I adore Fred West, dodgy parenting aside'. Is there an 'aside' when it comes to something like that?
Can your professional life cancel out your utterly depraved private life? (Omg that sounds like a Carrie voice over to a particularly hardhitting Sex and the City).

CRYING at the Fred West thing

 

[SqualorVictoria]

Exactly. I'm not going mad am I? It is all just very strange? This is the quote from Pretty Honest. Under Beauty Icons.
'I adore Coco Chanel for many reasons. Dodgy politics aside, she was an awesome and inspiring woman'.
'
Isn't that like (for a very exaggerated example I know) saying 'As patio layers go I adore Fred West, dodgy parenting aside'. Is there an 'aside' when it comes to something like that?
Can your professional life cancel out your utterly depraved private life? (Omg that sounds like a Carrie voice over to a particularly hardhitting Sex and the City).

This is hilarious! There's so much wit on this thread, not bad for a bunch of vacuous skidmark people

 

[Marzipan]

Exactly. I'm not going mad am I? It is all just very strange? This is the quote from Pretty Honest. Under Beauty Icons.
'I adore Coco Chanel for many reasons. Dodgy politics aside, she was an awesome and inspiring woman'.
'
Isn't that like (for a very exaggerated example I know) saying 'As patio layers go I adore Fred West, dodgy parenting aside'. Is there an 'aside' when it comes to something like that?
Can your professional life cancel out your utterly depraved private life? (Omg that sounds like a Carrie voice over to a particularly hardhitting Sex and the City).

Jelly Bean I love your writing - started writing this earlier about a previous post, but got sidetracked by pizza and wine. Keep writing! x

 

[Jelly Bean]

I just get so cross sometimes at the beauty industry. Like all of us I dip in and out and I went through a period of being in absolute thrall to it. This whole thread has so utterly endorsed for me how we are so clever and funny and questioning the whole thing. Keep being told you need xyz to look less foul. Part with your money for the next wonder thing after buying the previous wonder thing. And all the while people like SH are recommending this stuff she has 'tweakments'. She can protest now all she likes how transparent she was but she wasn't, she just wasn't. In an idle moment I looked through her IG from ages ago and so many comments after close ups of her face were 'omg - you look so young. How do you do it?' Silence.
It preys on people's insecurity. It makes you feel like you are doing something wrong for actually looking your age. It's actually horribly cynical and rotten. It just makes me feel so sad sometimes.

 

[rosemarina]

Absolutely. She knew what she was doing and chose to do it anyway.

 

[Ericscat]

Absolutely. She knew what she was doing and chose to do it anyway.

Look, I just don't care anymore. I am a total dog, despite my name, and I couldn't give a flying duck. Embrace the lines and the fat and the grey pubes. Who gives a damn? Even old boilers get sex if they have a sense of humour

 

[BettyDoodah]

Have any of you seen her twitter today milking the dead friend again?