Sali Hughes #13 The best new products I’ve been using for years

Jelly Bean · Mar 7, 2020

PineappleQueen19 said:
The column this week is the same as in the sustainability article just last week with products added in? I don’t get it.

Also side stepped the mention of Primark last week, it was the elusive “high street chemist” instead. I get it’s something that she would have been shredded for in the comments last week (“sustainability feature mentioning Primark, how ridiculous etc”) - but then why is it ok this week?

I presume because no comments this week mean it is safer. And I would've thought better advice re hotel minis would be don't keep taking them - that way the staff won't keep replacing them.

zcfthc5 said:
I love seeing peoples travel cosmetics, but that column had neither joy nor any original tips. Im always cramming into the plastic pouch (nice spf for face, cheap spf for neck/body, various hair gunk for curly hair to wash or just to restyle). Would love to hear of peoples shortcuts and any recommendations for solid toothpaste / conditioner.

A more eco edit would just be saving past mini bottles and using a dash of nail varnish to colour code - but that way we cant "invest" in more plastic bottles and gadgetry.

(Tiger have those squishy tubes so they can be easier more into the plastic bag.)

Any recommendations for airport approved wash bags? I was eyeing up the spacenk one...

Yes the buying more plastic to cut down on plastic is strange. I have examined smaller sized bottles I already have and it is perfectly possibly for a lot of them to be reused even if it doesn't say so. You just have to gently lever off the sort of plastic ring thing liquid squirts from - very easily replaced. And buying a gadget to label things - why?

PeachyP · Mar 7, 2020

The HA article is still available here https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/one-skincare-ingredient-winter-155300901.html?guccounter=1

Badabing101 · Mar 7, 2020

What is Hyaluronic Acid?

The beginner's guide to the ingredient you're seeing everywhere.

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just seen this!! The Jessica DeFino article

@peachy snap!

Disillusioned · Mar 7, 2020

The greenest thing about that column is that it’s been recycled twice from a recent Instagram post:

Sali really only does Sustainability Ultra Lite. All that plastic-heavy Drunk Elephant packaging. The Elizabeth Arden ceramide capsules come in a hefty plastic pot. Total greenwashing.

SqualorVictoria · Mar 7, 2020

Disillusioned said:
The greenest thing about that column is that it’s been recycled twice from a recent Instagram post:

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Sali really only does Sustainability Ultra Lite. All that plastic-heavy Drunk Elephant packaging. The Elizabeth Arden ceramide capsules come in a hefty plastic pot. Total greenwashing.

Sustainability for champagne socialists

Jelly Bean · Mar 7, 2020

Don't forget the Pat McGrath stuff she ordered after acknowledging on IG in an earlier post that she knew the packaging was appalling - lots of plastic wrapping plus all those bloody large plastic sequins. I just wouldn't even order it until they changed that.

PineappleQueen19 · Mar 7, 2020

Before Sali tries to say she never said hyaluronic acid is some sort of skin panacea, let’s remind ourselves exactly what was said:

“If you buy only one serum your whole life (and I use the word as the common cosmetics term for thin, viscous skincare treatments, never in the altogether different biological sense), make it a combination of hyaluronic acid and vitamin C. Both ingredients benefit everyone of any age, skin type and skin concern, depending on concentration.
Hyaluronic acid is a no-brainer: it clashes with no other ingredient, aggravates no one (it’s present throughout the body to keep joints, eyeballs and other moving parts well lubricated) and holds water in the skin for a plumper, healthier-looking appearance.”

Jade Mitzi · Mar 7, 2020

Can we all agree that the column today wasn’t just a baby amount of crud, nor a smidge of crud, but just totally pointless. Who on earth was it aimed at?

NotDumbNotBlonde · Mar 7, 2020

PineappleQueen19 said:
Before Sali tries to say she never said hyaluronic acid is some sort of skin panacea, let’s remind ourselves exactly what was said:

“If you buy only one serum your whole life (and I use the word as the common cosmetics term for thin, viscous skincare treatments, never in the altogether different biological sense), make it a combination of hyaluronic acid and vitamin C. Both ingredients benefit everyone of any age, skin type and skin concern, depending on concentration.
Hyaluronic acid [...]”

And Vit C is irritating to many, Dr Sam B advises avoiding it for troubled skin.

Just read today's Graun offering- "the indolent" FFS! And

mainly, in my defence, because I’m always working and invariably have to drag along heaps of product testers so I don’t fall behind schedule

Poor poor pitiful me

PineappleQueen19 · Mar 7, 2020

When advent calendar season rolls around again, she’ll be telling us how good the minis are for travelling.

rosemarina · Mar 7, 2020

Oh yes, always working, that one. Aye.

Jelly Bean · Mar 7, 2020

PineappleQueen19 said:
Before Sali tries to say she never said hyaluronic acid is some sort of skin panacea, let’s remind ourselves exactly what was said:

“If you buy only one serum your whole life (and I use the word as the common cosmetics term for thin, viscous skincare treatments, never in the altogether different biological sense), make it a combination of hyaluronic acid and vitamin C. Both ingredients benefit everyone of any age, skin type and skin concern, depending on concentration.
Hyaluronic acid is a no-brainer: it clashes with no other ingredient, aggravates no one (it’s present throughout the body to keep joints, eyeballs and other moving parts well lubricated) and holds water in the skin for a plumper, healthier-looking appearance.”

Oh lord. So the research shows it can inflame - but SH actually said it 'aggravates no one'.
Of course she would argue, quite rightly, that she did not know. But there it is - she did not know.
It is the cult of more and more products wandering away from natural that have done this. Plus the unknown results of people putting a cocktail of relatively new things on their skin to tackle more and more 'problems' experts and influencers identify.
We need to move away from the insidious cult that a line or wrinkle is a horrible thing to be tackled harshly. Acids, Botox, injectables - wft are we doing to ourselves?
If men came up with this shit and said we should do it we would rightly be up in arms at being ~~told~~ advised to be a Stepford Wife.

Eurgh · Mar 7, 2020

I'm so glad I've been told to buy some plastic miniatures instead of reusing LITERALLY ANYTHING UNDER 100ml when we're about to become Quarantine Island and never fly anywhere ever again. What about some intensive moisturiser recommendations for all the handwashing? Got meathooks like sandpaper here!

melfish · Mar 7, 2020

PineappleQueen19 said:
(and I use the word as the common cosmetics term for thin, viscous skincare treatments, never in the altogether different biological sense)

Wot? Why on earth does this need stating? Who is going to confuse it with blood serum? Is this an attempt to sound science-y?

The indolent? She is so ridiculously pompous

Jelly Bean said:
Oh lord. So the research shows it can inflame - but SH actually said it 'aggravates no one'.
Of course she would argue, quite rightly, that she did not know. But there it is - she did not know.
It is the cult of more and more products wandering away from natural that have done this. Plus the unknown results of people putting a cocktail of relatively new things on their skin to tackle more and more 'problems' experts and influencers identify.
We need to move away from the insidious cult that a line or wrinkle is a horrible thing to be tackled harshly. Acids, Botox, injectables - wft are we doing to ourselves?
If men came up with this shit and said we should do it we would rightly be up in arms at being ~~told~~ advised to be a Stepford Wife.

I love this post so much. Influencers act like an ally but their inherent message is the destructive notion that ageing is shameful, a failing, something to be "fought" - no matter how loudly they profess to the contrary

MakkaPakka · Mar 7, 2020

The indolent might not need to label their tablets because they have eyes...

And "aggravates no one" is bullshit anyway, you can be sensitive or allergic to pretty much anything. It's like when Cllinique told me my allergic reaction could't possibly come from DDML because it was "hypoallergenic".

PineappleQueen19 · Mar 7, 2020

melfish said:
Wot? Why on earth does this need stating? Who is going to confuse it with blood serum? Is this an attempt to sound science-y?

The indolent? She is so ridiculously pompous

Imagine being SO BOTHERED by the mere thought of pedantic knob heads leaving “actually I think you’ll find serum is medical term referring to a blood component” comments that you waste so much of your word count getting in ahead of them. It goes to show how attuned she is to criticism no matter how inconsequential and irrelevant. Or even imagined. Explains a lot.

And her writing is so overwrought, it’s painful to read. Like this

“If, however, you fear hand cream texture, or are lucky enough to have winter hands that don’t appear wrapped in parma ham and need only moderate help, I love Neutrogena’s Fast-Absorbing Hand Cream(£4.19), though that’s not to be confused with their classic, concentrated formula, the presence of which is, at least for me, impossible either to forget or ignore.”

How does one ignore a hand cream?

melfish · Mar 7, 2020

I am still laughing at being called lazy for not wanting to invest in a redundant label-maker like I am eight, in 1975. Seriously?

rosemarina · Mar 7, 2020

Overwrought is exactly right.

Gold_7 · Mar 7, 2020

I find her writing really hard to follow or even understand sometimes. I actually have to reread it and then still wonder what she meant.

melfish · Mar 7, 2020

Gold_7 said:
I find her writing really hard to follow or even understand sometimes. I actually have to reread it and then still wonder what she meant.

It's not ... tight

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