Saff Michaelis

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I just found it quite extreme that Margot went from having one of them lie with her until she fell asleep to the next night being left in her cot alone to cry for over an hour until she eventually fell asleep. I just think there are a few ways to transition it a bit less harshly? She was only 5 and a half months old at the time. I think sleep training can do the world of good but I think she took cry it out a bit too literally
 
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She really did - all she leant was mummy or daddy aren’t coming to help me.

I just found it quite extreme that Margot went from having one of them lie with her until she fell asleep to the next night being left in her cot alone to cry for over an hour until she eventually fell asleep. I just think there are a few ways to transition it a bit less harshly? She was only 5 and a half months old at the time. I think sleep training can do the world of good but I think she took cry it out a bit too literally
 
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It’s interesting she’s shared this as the consensus on TikTok comments is that sleep training is evil and will irreparably damage your child. Reddit seems to believe it is the only way your child will ever sleep and that they will have insomnia for life unless you do this to them as a baby. I suspect the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Personally I wouldn’t do it with my baby because I couldn’t bear to hear him cry for any period of time without comforting him but I understand the temptation when you are feeling extreme sleep deprivation. I find it interesting that these programmes recommend beginning sleep training at 6 months which is the age my baby started sleeping a lot better without anything changing in his “routine” and without any sleep training. Perhaps it’s just natural developmentally and those who have sleep trained are convinced that’s what worked? Either way, something will come along to disturb their sleep again, be it teething or learning to walk so it’s by no means fail safe.
 
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I’m by no means a gentle parent (I shout far too much for that) but I couldn’t do an hour of my tiny baby screaming so I could do housework?! And it was her first night sleep training?! Both of my kids have been really mummified so we did result in the “crying it out” method…but I would go in and see to them every 5 mins, sitting at the top of the stairs, crying to myself as I felt so awful about it!
 
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New to this thread. This account popped up on my feed and I was absolutely appalled by how blasé she was about leaving her very small child to cry it out. Absolutely awful. I hate that she is offering the view that this is acceptable as well. For any new
Mums out there struggling with sleep there are other much kinder ways to help your baby sleep. The idea that if a baby is fed and dry they need nothing else and it’s ok to leave them to cry is just ….. it makes me shudder. I know people will disagree with me but just wanted to express my view.
 
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Her mom also came in her “defense” explaining how she did it with both Saff and her brother. As I said, I don’t think I would be able to do it (and I wasn’t, despite not sleeping for about 7 months 😅) specially in a baby that young… I’ve read and seen people who did it because they were absolutely desperate and the kids were much older (like 18 months up) and they couldn’t work/function with the lack of sleep for that long… but 1h of crying for a 5.5m old baby without even going in once while doing housework is a bit much in my opinion. If she wasn’t rich, I’m sure the comments wouldn’t be supportive
 
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Her mom also came in her “defense” explaining how she did it with both Saff and her brother. As I said, I don’t think I would be able to do it (and I wasn’t, despite not sleeping for about 7 months 😅) specially in a baby that young… I’ve read and seen people who did it because they were absolutely desperate and the kids were much older (like 18 months up) and they couldn’t work/function with the lack of sleep for that long… but 1h of crying for a 5.5m old baby without even going in once while doing housework is a bit much in my opinion. If she wasn’t rich, I’m sure the comments wouldn’t be supportive
doesn't that sum her up in general - sleep training, getting engaged and married extremely early, not working, having a child young. i can bet a pound or two that she's looking down on people who didn't grow up with wealth, private schools and a fancy lifestyle who is making similar life choices
 
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I had a child that didn’t sleep for years - cosleeping, sleeping in their room, so much hideousness but I still would never, ever, have left them to cry. So many people could see the sleep deprivation and begged me to but no way in hell.
 
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This morning’s post on her PR trip… it’s not a #staycation if you’re staying in a cabin, Saff!!
 
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I just think it’s outrageous - they make millions from poor regular mums and then send rich influencers on a PR trip that costs tens of thousands. That place is insane prices to stay at!
 
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I must have missed some backstory here, how come they got Margot christened at St James’s Palace?!
 
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As some others have said, I actually prefer her content when she is less relatable. The way she talks is the biggest giveaway that she's old money/rich rich, the turn of phrase she uses is just sooooo posh (unless she puts it on?)
That said, engaged at 18 is insane. Is that a posh thing or no? My husband and I met in first year uni and knew from the get go we would be together long term and get married one day - doesn't mean you have to rush everything and do it.
 
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As some others have said, I actually prefer her content when she is less relatable. The way she talks is the biggest giveaway that she's old money/rich rich, the turn of phrase she uses is just sooooo posh (unless she puts it on?)
That said, engaged at 18 is insane. Is that a posh thing or no? My husband and I met in first year uni and knew from the get go we would be together long term and get married one day - doesn't mean you have to rush everything and do it.
I grew up in a rough-ish area in the North East - lots of 16/17/18 year olds getting engaged, it’s just not interesting because they’re not posh
Funnily enough they also are married/still together/have kids but again, not posh so not interesting

It’s hilarious to me that she thinks her life is so different when really it’s not too far from the working classes up north, just a hell of a lot more money
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It’s also why I dislike her schtick of being ‘oooo look at me so different and interesting’ but really she’s just different compared to her peers in her very small circle of other poshos - to me her life in terms of marriage and kids at her age is very ordinary
 
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